Dankie

Im now thinking , if this tuned object can take electrons out of the air , did the wfc take electrons out of water and that is just how it worked , reason for such quality gas .

I was reading here that the avramenko pump should not be grounded or it becomes an closed system .

Water is mass , it can give out electrons .

Looking back @ this VIC and transformer setup .

Did anybody ever see anything particular about this circuit , did anybody achieve resonance and production whatsoever ?

I'm looking @ the differences between Meyers and Puharich and they are quite substantial ...

The Stephen "Chambers" hydroxyl refilling patent is also totally different .

They are these vancouvr gadgeteers who claim to have some patent pending on AC electrolysis , but I dont trust these scammers at all ....

I dont have access to that  site

somebody get that pdf for me of the last post made by unclefester .

http://energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3217-stanley-meyer-explained-30.html

I dont agree with unclefester , I dont think water is a waste of time,  it can be energized with a good joe cell and kill cancer , it can be filtered to drink  . You can destabilize it and run rockets with it or create massive heat .

I like Hydrogen and water .

This guy is just an advanced replicator with  access to expensive tools , he does not even understand the PLL .

They are much better experimenters on this site unclefester .

Its not fake .

Xogen has a multi-million dollar research center in orangeville .

I dont think they would have spent that $ for a normal KOH electrolyser project .

That page is very interresting btw ...

Why is snow white? Whats so special about water anyways ?

Plz make a video of this Gauss .

The pulsing is probably some crude form of speed control , a PWM .

That is what is pwm eally , its not only used for pulsing water fuel cells lol

Kevin is doing what he thinks is best with the best of his knowledge and tools, and that you have to respect, he's trying a lot more than anyone else is.

I wonder if your 3 phase thing you have been working on for months is a product that there is no market for? I'd hate to see your efforts wasted. You can get 3 phase from the alternator, or you can do single phase from a circuit. Maybe you could explain to me what your circuit is going to accomplish?

Yeah I will probably finish it off starting tomorrow , I am just off-school .

I just didnt finish it and the pcb , too boring , I had to change a few things also from when I first made it, I made a bunch of mistakes and found out I couldnt solder a particular chip without machines or risk damaginbg them If I am not absolutely perfect . , so I have to solve that ...

What is Kevin doing anyways?

I never saw anything interresting with that fella .

I`'m sorry that we cannot help you ... I am finishing a three phase system myself

After dynodons plate cell video i'm not even sure if stanley meyer found something interesting at all. Hundreds of watts do not sound like anything extra ordinary or overunity.

I reviewed xogen's patents , same dam thing as stan .

If they are doing it , then I intend to do it .

Ill let the other people work on steorn and make a nice OU if some plans get posted . Water for fuel is what I know and love the most .

That sounds  more like ohms law .

Its a bit more complicated than that im afraid , I have dealt with this type of reflection before with fast rise signals and long wires , it causes noise and distortion and reflected power back to the chip output , it happens when you have long transmission lines and impedance mismatch , the problem is always worst when you are dealing with capacitive loads.

I view the wfc as an antenna , reflection is not something we want , this is not a radar sysem

Remember that Stan knew much about antennas and radar .

I have also given some magnetic water to plants , and had my mother give a blessing .

They seem to like it . Couple day and all healthy and lively .

I am gonna test out this new modulator ive been tinkering on .

Healthy resonance for my water , Puharich style , 60 hz is not good . I was thinking 8hz modulated onto a 528 carrier  with my magnet mixer , it can be totally re-invented .

We should talk Gauss .

Hey Gauss

Positive water ?

I heard orgone and + water can cure cancer , do post more info .

Very nice read warp .

Prepare THEN attack .

Dont mix up both , both are different processes .

Thats a matter of perspective , Kevin West should stop asking for 50,000 $ and start showing people how to save $ and then he would be fine .

I wont be wasting my time for this on a jesuit company .

google : energeticforum missing fundamental

Where  is the missing device to play with ?

Really big stuff tho , the galaxies all at the same distance .

The Moray device was somekind of filter for this .

Looks  hard to engineer this stuff , too much missing in depth knowledge with his device is the problem .

Maybe you guys can build this , Im kinda busy with other things .

It works , Doc says its important so it bust be more than meets the eye .

Go on , build something .

Thats where the duty cycle comes into play , we must stop the voltage just before  arcing , then start over again and let new air fill the gap . There is no real way to sense the current and stop the voltage just in time quickly enough other than duty cycle and trial and error .

If you need help in desiging a circuit for some experiments I can do this .

Ionization is more the type of thing that can be done  this is the direction this forum should take .

This is gonna require more than that if you are to do it without running into a wall of impossiblity .



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable-frequency_drive

You basicly need a high frequency synchronous motor and a high current 3 phase drive if you want anything remotly efficient  past the 400 hz AND controllable with a knob wich is a must , you also need alot of series batteries or an massive house dc supply . Single phase motors should be avoided because theres less torque for the same amount of energy. We are talking a minimum of 1000 watts and lots of money here with the most efficient technique . Use a single phase chopper pwm with a pulley and you will hit the torque maxima , go too fast and you might break the alternator , its basicly hell on earth . Just running this @ 400 hz with house current is an achievement on its own , nice Job Komtek .


Either that or you go linear amplification , but that too has its problems specially with those big parallel caps in the Stephen Meyers system , you basicly need a 0 feedback amp or some compensation with loads of current gain to get those transistor nice and full and keep that nice sine wave , add the bias to that and you see the efficieny dropping and snowball overheating issues come into play ... Quite complex .