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Dankie

338 posts · 102 more in threads this archive does not carry · writing between May 2008 and Aug 2010

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AC electrolysis

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Tell me something I dont already know .

I tracked down Stephen Meyers's adress if anybody wanna call him and him about his patent , if he got it or not . Somebody call this guy up .

I have given up Hydrogen untill I have proof that his method works , I am trying a new invention . a RIFE device / laser hydrogen splitter . Maybe I'll investigate the SEC instead or the horvath device at least we got this working .

A 50 khz sinusoidal  3 channel with autolocked  even harmonics that can be phased ( randomly ) and can be frequency keyed (randomly) .

My goal is to simply hit a harmonics of every frequency God has ever made .

Its nasty what I can do now .

AC electrolysis

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Newguy ,

Around here if you wanna pass on information about a document , you link the document . Better yet , you read the document and take pics of he important quotes you think are relevant and helpful for our research .

AC electrolysis

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Well in the patent app if those values shown are truthful , Stephen was using 600 hz main freq , but his cell ringing inductive kicks looked like 20 times that or more . It looks a bit like what stevie was having with his chips and what I see with a 555 with an inductive probe .

He uses 3 tubes ,remember , he also mentions something about "crossing the barrier" , he mentionned that in the interview and in the petent , he said what Stan did was figure out "a" way for the electrons to cross the barrier ??? ... I still am studying all his words to the letter .

Something about matching the electrical wavelenght of the electrodes , impedance matching of the water bath ( adaptive rf impedance matching ??) , and ringing effect ... All pretty straightforward from the looks of it lol ... At leats I know what I am hunting

Very touchy and complex eletrical and physical phenomenon but I am up for it , I think I can handle this eletrical stuff .

AC electrolysis

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It seems like this is the next way to go , RF and reactance and all the impedance stuff only happens with AC . I am past the VIC with diode at this point .

This is not what puharich or Stephen was doing .

1500volt by less then 5mA

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Because Unclefester never achieved over-production , he lied .

Bob Boyce has fallen , so has Unclefester . Nothing but attention seekers .


HV and hydroxy

#39 · date not recorded

Ok he does mention 42,8 khz.... but he then says he didnt  find anything special about it ... I'm sure of it was true we would have tons of reports about this...

Maybe Unclefester could explain more ?

Unclefester you there ???

HV and hydroxy

#38 · date not recorded

I think the 42.8KHz is from keely literature which mention water vaporize when physically pulsed at that frequency. It is mentioned in Dale Ponds video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9125003792513982191&ei=lIAeSerEOIeAwgPEncT3BQ&q=%22dale+pond%22
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5430570751600484561&ei=lIAeSerEOIeAwgPEncT3BQ&q=%22dale+pond%22


I wonder if what everyone trying to achieve is 85.6KHz DC sinewave (sine wave but never going trough zero)? At the second part Dale pond mention that when Keely mention about 42.8KHz it could be 85.6KHz.

Base from the video, I assume that we can get greater energy by using double frequency, for example 85.6KHz, 171.2KHz, 342.4KHz, ...

Ive seen somebody who tried this with just a straight pwm pulsed dc , it did nothing...

What kind of pulse ? how much voltage ?

I'm sure alot of people tried this with their dave lawtons setup...

HV and hydroxy

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TAD sorry for the annoying voice in the background...

http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=870

So you say you need to adjust the inductance ? I love what 2curious has done with the sliding core i think is better than having a slider on the negative choke ... what do you think of this idea ?

How do you adjust your inductance what kind of slider  ?

Can we see what you did to the negative choke plz? Maybe take a pic of the construction and hide all other details  ?...

HV and hydroxy

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Hey tad , like Stevie i am also wondering how you calculate the capacitance of a tap water capacitor... I also measured my tap water but it was 0 capacitance.... a leaking capacitor... how exactly did you calculate yours ?

Did you add a coating so that you could use regular water ? I wanna make this work with regular tap water ...

Also i am wondering why you chose 48khz ???

HV and hydroxy

#30 · date not recorded

Tad , where did you hear about the frequency needs to be 42 khz ?

i thought this was the larmor frequency and it was a variable depending on the fields strenght ?

google : larmor frequency

Pulsed electrolysis

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impedance_matching

Looking @ this now , I wonder how hard it must be have impedance match a square wave signal and being able to have a good frequency range that happens to be in a the correct bandwidth of the cell's resonance . I can see why stainless would be nice to use and why Kinesis couldnt make it , I also would have failed probably .

This is basicly some very in depth and specialised electrical engineering , most of the electronics here Stan would have an understanding . I mean just look at this stuff , this is not even close to basic electronics .

http://www.radartutorial.eu/08.transmitters/tx06.en.html

Pulsed electrolysis

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Did Stan achieve anything with this pulsed thing I wonder . Probably because he knew how those worked when he worked as a radar guy , they need short pulses .

Its a pretty troublesome wave to cope with but Stan probably knew how . I dont however and dropping this VIC bifilar .

Stupid concept when you look at it , it has no rhythm besides when its on resonance , wich it isnt . Half looks like a smarter approach imo , a pulse transformer will show the input shape usually so makes no difference .

If you read Kinesis's post , you realise that the VIC actually worked , those *  fools ... JohnBostick and Kinesis arguing with me .


A pulse transformer is a transformer that is optimised for transmitting rectangular electrical pulses (that is, pulses with fast rise and fall times and a relatively constant amplitude). Small versions called signal types are used in digital logic and telecommunications circuits, often for matching logic drivers to transmission lines. Medium-sized power versions are used in power-control circuits such as camera flash controllers. Larger power versions are used in the electrical power distribution industry to interface low-voltage control circuitry to the high-voltage gates of power semiconductors. Special high voltage pulse transformers are also used to generate high power pulses for radar, particle accelerators, or other high energy pulsed power applications.

To minimise distortion of the pulse shape, a pulse transformer needs to have low values of leakage inductance and distributed capacitance, and a high open-circuit inductance. In power-type pulse transformers, a low coupling capacitance (between the primary and secondary) is important to protect the circuitry on the primary side from high-powered transients created by the load. For the same reason, high insulation resistance and high breakdown voltage are required. A good transient response is necessary to maintain the rectangular pulse shape at the secondary, because a pulse with slow edges would create switching losses in the power semiconductors.

The product of the peak pulse voltage and the duration of the pulse (or more accurately, the voltage-time integral) is often used to characterise pulse transformers. Generally speaking, the larger this product, the larger and more expensive the transformer.

Pulse transformers by definition have a duty cycle of less than 0.5, whatever energy stored in the coil during the pulse must be "dumped" out before the pulse is fired again.


You can now see why the  square wave and Duty shoulld be adjusted . Square wave for rise time and adjustable duty .

http://www.butlerwinding.com/store.asp?pid=28355

Quote:

The design of “signal” type of pulse transformer focuses on the delivery of a signal at the output. The transformer delivers a “pulse-like” signal or a series of pulses. The turns ratio of the pulse transformer can be used to adjust signal amplitude and provide impedance matching between the source and load

Pulsed electrolysis

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The theory on pulsed electrolysis:

This, you all can test.
Take a waterfuelcell and hook it up to a pulsing circuit (even Dankie's circuit would work... ;) )
The whole idea is that you get more amps into the wfc compared towards strait DC.
So how is that gonna happen?

Set your circuit on like 160Hz. duty of 40 or 50%
Put an ampmeter in serie with your wfc.
Now, measure the amp pulses. If you look carefull, you will notice that you see high amp pulses (example 10 amps by 10V)
If you compare that with strait DC on 10V, you will see a lower amperage, like 6 amps.

That is the theory i could find on this, sofar. I do see this effect and it is explanable.


regards
Steve

I dont know how you can see that surge because you ampmeter will never show those High amp spikes , not an analog meter nor a digital . I have tested myself a pulsing 50/50  12 volts 10 k ohm short lead resistor and it shows me .006 amps .

Ofc my circuit would work , it is the best  manual pulser ever made :) , but it is expensive if you want it from me .

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I agree , this site tha bomb ...

We have something special going on here .

Lets give ourselves a big thumbs up .

Good old 2curious did it ...

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those potentials i think are created by the displacement of electrons.. the emf is only allowed to flow one way due to the diodes.. you keep yanking electrons out the positive side and they build up on the negative side.. copper has 29 electrons and 29 protons.. thats a neutral charge.. when you start removing them from the posiitve and forcing them in the negative side it creates real oposite potentials not oscillating electron potential like AC..   thats like what 2 curious is saying.. the +120 is a side missing electrons to create a positive proton charge..  get my drift? the copper chokes on my alternator drawing are connected to air ionization only.. the stainless hooks to the cell, the middle stator and positve induction side of the primary rotor winding..  i have not had the money to do any work on my alternator ideas but i bet it would work.. the concept.. since the copper choke is being used for the air ionization it can establish higher displaced potentials since there is minimal leakage over the airgap.  the stainless is coupling the coppers potential at the same time.. so when signal 49a xxx 49b pulses through the rotor it is allowing a echo to occur between the secondary and primary.. i beleive this echo technique is only used for the alternator version.. the 6-1 has primary and secondary on same mutual core.. the the primary 3.3 amps are reacting not just with secondary but both. secondary and stainless.

outlawstc

No I dont understand , but I think I do , but plz re-explain with somekind of drawing and extra well tought out idea .

Do you mean like , when both equal and opposite signals (ELECTRONS ) meet at the water bath , @ off pulse the electrons that were on the positive side of the cell cannot go back to thew wire (wich is missing electrons ) since there is a diode , so it goes throught from the negative side and this causes a *real voltage* in the cell??

Good old 2curious did it ...

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2curious is an RF engineer @ waterfuelcell.org .


Here is a pm from 2curious , most of you probably read this but I want you guys to read it again ?

Theres a double resonance here , the "vacuum can be resonated" , ... Just Look @ 2curious's sig



don't get me wrong, but can you please cut down on the PM a little bit as I have no time left for other things.
Thanks.

TWO, resonances, yes. An electrical one, used to achieve high voltage with little effort.

And an acoustical one (or mechanical if you will), eg. oscillation of particles.(the nucleus and electrons of the atoms)

Yes, it does makes things more complex, that's why many seem to have trouble. This SM
WFC is not a joke, it is quite cutting edge. Too much for most.



 my question to him : I'm not really sure what Stan means anymore by *negative voltages* , could this possibly be 2 opposite currents colliding inside the cell , or does this just mean more potential difference like a house +120 and -120 = 240 volt difference Huh Maybe this circuit have bipolar currents of same time phase and equal intensity , Plz have a look at this quote ....


Right, you got it. Two equal AND opposite voltages (or minor currents if you will) with respect to
a virtual ground, as per SM quote.

Yes, they arrive at the same time in the cell. So particles (or molecules if you will are been stressed
equally from each electrode).





So your example is not quite right !!! Correct it would be: +120V + -120V = 0V

So, look at figure 10-5. See it now ? See how he shows a mirror image of the positive waveform vs. the negative waveform and in the center line exactly zero ?