Dankie

I have researched his death .

I am pretty sure  , 99% sure , taht he died the way they say he did .

The nature of his death , if true , can be some evidence to confirm that his device did work .

Believe me , I want to believe he did it . I mean no disrespect for Stan , but I wanna be 100% SURE .

Now if somebody has direct , or indirect evidence , in wich a logical deduction of chain of events can lead us to  being more sure , plz share your hypothesis and observations .

Well I tried googling all of the deaths and funerals of past inventors like Henry Moray , EV gray , Puharich etc ...

All pretty much a big nothing about death or relatives information or funeral in the first 5 pages basicly ... Some conspiracies etc ...

Pretty much as you would expect , this is not found on google but in town records etc ...

Well I dont know , its all internet rumors from 15 year old thing . I dont believe anything from google regarding this .
Wsnt he dinning with NATO troops ? I dont think NATO would have financed that ...

If he really died that would be good ... Sorry Stan ...

In the event of Stan s death , what would of happened with that money anyways ?

Here is a report , it seems like he did die and vomitted in a parking lot ...  I would like to see that official certificate of death or get this confirmed by a witness .

I would be strange if he was never exumed and never had a burial for a christian ...

http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg14099.html

A few things I want confirmed .

1- Is is true that he screamed out of a restaurant  had been poisoned and then his dead inanimate body  was seen in a casket .

2- Is it true he received multi-million dollar funding and was about to build a research center . Nobody willing to spend a  few million would risk that much without knowing for sure  , no sense at all .

Its not looking good .

What I wanna know now is if theres an ounce of truth to special electrolysis without that Puharich ceramic .

And Who is Stephen Chambers .

Also , did that EPG work ? That would at least confirm his genius .

icould see being off a few a few hundred cc but a few liter is hard to mistake the error are so significant stan had to know he was not being truthfull

True , who made that report ?

Before I even continue wasting my time , I must know who is Stephen Chambers .

I cannot believe Stan was a fraud , if he was they did a better job with him than with 9/11 .

Dynodon , do you know people who witnessed the dead inanimate body of Stan Meyers @ his funeral ?

Hi Dankie,

My understanding is that Stephen Chambers is Stan and Stephen Meyer's brother-in-law.  I can't cite an exact reference but I seem to have read it somewhere.

Dynodon,  what you report has been confirmed by others.  There are other problems in the Technical Brief as well like omitting the neutron in doing calculations with atomic weights.  The neutron is relevant.

Regards,
Andy

Yes I also heard that , from forums and unofficial sources .

It would be an coincidence that both are unrelated .

From the Interview he made , he seems to has been too or lived in  or is living in Canada .

Well I am gonna say this again , the only thing keeping this research alive for me is the fact that xogen seems to be doing it without any special ceramic , otherwise I would be tempted to believe that Meyers was somekind of Band-aid for the Puharich method . Now once I get absolute confirmation that xogen does it , I will be much more releaved . Who is Stephen Chambers , was he a relative of Meyers or an business partner ?

xogen.ca

I will refer to the discussion on waterfuelcell.org

http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1477&start=15

Omg , that guy was somekind of freemason on the run , who know secrets thats 4 sure ...

*REPOST*


You mean the plates themselves have both magnetic *flux lines* going opposite to eachother . The thumbs rule thing , those kind of flux lines ? Perhaps they are crossing eachother and causing the elephants to go against eachother .

Perhaps he is trying to *oppose the entropy* ?

Everything is in constant motion like Bearden says ... From the infinitely big to the infinitely small .

I am intruiged by what bearden says , every dipole can keep a bit of energy and not thrown it back out in the time domain ?

Stan is talking about an *energy generator* , a *static energy generator* , and he aint talking about the EPG . He's talking about how he gets more energy out than in . Seems to me like this is what Stan meant . What if Stan's final technology was so revolutionnary that the whole physics would have to be reinvented . This is bigger than a simple water car , this is totally new science .

There's a few things that are clearly impossible with Meyers . The water is simply not breaking apart with higher voltage , it is not holding its charge , it is never pure enough under normal conditions . Meyers never coated his plates , so I believe this coating ravi stuff is simply disinfo .

There is all this stuff about the state space tickling , stuff that is not found in the puharich papers or anyone else .

So I believe that everybody had his own method , some were better than others .

Next step is , if we know dingel could pull some electricity from this , why wouldnt Meyers have done the same and have a double usage for that extra unaccounted for charge  ? This new hypothesis fills in the mysteries of how exactly do we get that water to charge , whats all this mumbo jumbo that Meyers talks about ?

It fills in the gap , it goes along with other theories from respectable people .

Nice Image , this is sacred geometry that explains all about our universe .

I can just imagine these waves happening in the injector .

dankie the amp inhibitor coil isnt going to ground directly..  it is the stainless negative choke.. going to negative excitor.  it is the one in my drawing..  connects to center of secondary. and negetive tube. the positve choke connects to positve induction side of primary(rotor) and the positve tube. thats how stan was getting a 0-20khz pulse on the output.. he wasnt getting it threw the emf the rotors giving to the stator windings (secondarys) in the alternator..   the only way for electrons in and out of the system is from the negative excitor, through the water, into the positive excitor and into the primarys electrical circuit.... but with the sync pulse and the mutual difference, i dont think leackeage is a concern.

Well I believe it is a reference and that it is connected to  0V state since thats effectively whats its trying to do on the other side , maintain a *non-voltage* differential between each choke .

But I guess it doesnt matter who is right when all you gotta do is connect the lead .

its weird to think that but i would say yes.. and that would allow a smaller capacitance space dankie. you thinking what im thinkin. lol were on the right path of understanding.   the only time it will want to arc is when there differences arent  mutual..  what i mean by this is say you have 400volts that you want to peak at.. if your getting 400volts positve electrical force and some how getting more electrons in the system you may read 450 volts negative electical force.. that would be a unbalanced difference.. and the electrons will want to arc to the positve side to try to balance to around 425 volts.. but when a power system is on and its contstantly getting strays in it to allow imbalance that will created a constant current/ load.?


outlawstc

Hmm , that would motivate the use of a dioded coil connected to grown , the amp-inhibiting coil .

Are you saying there would be no problems of arcing between both wires side by side , It should be wound as a real bifilar ? Since the pressure level would be the same ?

Yes I believe , 100% that the coil is meant to be on the same core , no exeptions .

What is the stainless had a better coupling factor to even more equally balance itself , naturally ?

The heat itself is caused by the vibration of the magnetic wire .



OT: I think this user had interresting things to say

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/2410-stan-deyo-2.html

Just brg me all that sacred geometry shit with the opposing Vortex stuff , It kinda looks like a heart ...

Prove to me I am wrong ...

This thread is legendary , anybody who tries a move on this thread will be suspect .

Now , the next question , if the universe is circular in nature , what happens if we pulled on the water's components when they are on *opposite sides of the circle*    ?

As one part gets taken away by the clockwise and another taken away by the counter-clockwise .\

Now pull !!!!


But wait... what if @ that point its already in gas form and has gained massive volume , now its pusing out of the injector into the motor in this out of time state   ?? ( Hypothetical )

well when those differences are next to each other present in the plates.  it messes with the space time between them..   i was saying the other day what causes us to fall and what causes us to need force to goto space... and could this force occur in a OPPOSITE manner..  meaning that particles of positive charge have gravity toward the negative excitor and electrons feel gravity toward the positive field..  and at the same time can those charged particles of the atom feel a pushing force pushing them in the same direction they are being pulled?? 2 forces acting in space time on both opposite charges in a opposite manner..  and the only thing holding these particles together is potential.. 

have you heard of coral castle in florida?

Its strange , after connecting the dots I am persuaded this is the key . If these opposite waves somehow cross , and the water's components is attracted to counter-clockwise wave AND clockwise wave , it is still pulling apart ,  just not in the way we imagined it did . Kinda like your drawing from yesterday outlaw , it inspired me .

Some people , somehow are seeing this on a piece of a paper , hydrogen goes left , oxygen goes right ...  WRONG !!!

The universe is just a tad more complex .

thanks dankie i have many hours of pondering.  the best way to understand is perspective. you got to visualize and try to understand everything whats going on in the wires them self on a atomic level.  visualize how emf can constantly displace the excitors in a multi phase set up (alternator). now remember how stan says the voltage will cause alignment in the plate material. what kind of alignment??.. now think on how there alignment could be 180 out from each other giving clockwise and counter clockwise scalar wave? the differential vortex? idk still pondering lol.

outlawstc

You mean the plates themselves have both magnetic *flux lines* going opposite to eachother . The thumbs rule thing , those kind of flux lines ? Perhaps they are crossing eachother and causing the elephants to go against eachother .

Perhaps he is trying to *oppose the entropy* ?

Everything is in constant motion like Bearden says ... From the infinitely big to the infinitely small .

I am intruiged by what bearden says , every dipole can keep a bit of energy and not thrown it back out in the time domain ?

Stan is talking about an *energy generator* , a *static energy generator* , and he aint talking about the EPG . He's talking about how he gets more energy out than in . Seems to me like this is what Stan meant . What if Stan's final technology was so revolutionnary that the whole physics would have to be reinvented . This is bigger than a simple water car , this is totally new science .

There's a few things that are clearly impossible with Meyers . The water is simply not breaking apart with higher voltage , it is not holding its charge , it is never pure enough under normal conditions . Meyers never coated his plates , so I believe this coating ravi stuff is simply disinfo .

There is all this stuff about the state space tickling , stuff that is not found in the puharich papers or anyone else .

So I believe that everybody had his own method , some were better than others .

Next step is , if we know dingel could pull some electricity from this , why wouldnt Meyers have done the same and have a double usage for that extra unaccounted for charge  ? This new hypothesis fills in the mysteries of how exactly do we get that water to charge , whats all this mumbo jumbo that Meyers talks about ?

It fills in the gap , it goes along with other theories from respectable people .

red circle is connected to positve output of copper bi filar.  i feel as if they should be isolated.. but you think about it and a air gap works as good isolation but can also help perform work with air ionization.. i show only the red because for extraction of electrons thats what it passes through during extraction(no neg present).. just the positve potential.. theres still missing items in the diagram like output for the electrical stress in the hfp .. it just makes to much since to take advantage of that with the copper chokes.. since your high volts are going to be in those wires specificaly..  as for electrons and holes.. i suggest falling back to the elementary of electric. think about it this has been so easily over looked for many many years of being possible.. for some of the smartest people of our time(engineers, scientisct, etc..) there had to been a flaw/ twist in there roots that has kept them satisfied with understanding.. and i would say that it is they over look the efficency possibility in the building up of potential differences.. and i dont think they fully understand how chokes can react in a charging manner when they are bi filar wound being pulsed with a sync burst.. every sync burst its thowing off a balanced difference in both directions. holes one way and electrons the other.. meyers even said in one of his videos that people who study electric learn about deflection of electrons and  chemistry  only focuses on proton aspects of the atom.. theres a wall clear as day that has been established that helps keep this from happening. chemistry and electric should be united in many ways.

outlawstc

Oh my , Outlaw has grown to be an excellent theoretical physicist .

Great to have you here outlaw

Dankie he says two things, one of them is right, and one of them is wrong, you think the right one is wrong and the wrong one is right. I'm not going to explain it to you any more.

Yeah Ok I guess his explanation is vague , but he clearly mentions the term *colliding* , I believe what you are saying is that the potentials are not colliding , but pushign together .

But remember that at a certain coil , Stan mention *non-voltage shift* , this means that both secondarys are at the same pressure level .

I also believe that this theory of simply pulsed high voltage has been tried many many times and has always resulted in failure , the water cannot hold a charge unless the negative electrode is coated with something to stop electron leaks .