Dankie

plz help

it's not stans patent, and don't tell me what to do

Thats right , you just saved yourself alot of trouble ...

yea, according to this patent you definitely did not have the right ratio of dielectrics to get the stress focused on the water. consider the ceramic with the dielectric value of 3500 as the "resonant charging chokes" used to restrict amps and let voltage do the work. plastic might have a dielectric value of 2 to 10

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Donald , you do the material research and come back to us with something physical that we can buy for reasonable price and we will try . Ask these guys how much it will take to coat a tube with this ok ...

This ceramic you speak of , find it , for cheap . And tell us how to install it without some complicated process .

I have never heard stan mention any particular coating besides , and Dynodon has told me that the tubes were bare .

I'm more interrested in this whole maxwell scalar theory stuff .

Ask electrojolt is this is efficient .

I'm gonna make a coil like this , I'll cut me a core and see for myself .

I think it works like a bifilar .

the winding direction isn't the same?
if so, in 8-3, all fields are induced with the same polarity, and the second choke current isn't towards the wfc, so opposing voltages on the wfc.
demartin observed that the pulses on both sides were of the same polarity in the exact 8-3 setup.

What are you alking about ?

Brg this image here and explain better .

Ok , so the chokes were indeed wound opposing .

Randiant_1 has confirmed this .

Seems to me like both chokes are being fed the same signal from the secondary , only difference is their direction .

Reult will be the same than with a perfect bifilar thats only getting pulsed by one side . Choke 56 will induce the same exact current/voltage in choke 62 .

In this case both chokes are being pulsed ,so one induces the other and vice versa ... no big difference .

Alan , just saw this , will read up later .

I`m in class now , supposed to be listening .

Quote from: Dankie on April 15, 2009, 23:38:18 pm

Its now clear to me that this is the right way the bifilar chokes for the VIC spools.

If each section has both red and green , there is only 2  layers of double insulation between each-choke so things will start shorting out @ 4.5 KV and beyond . So if this is meant to go to higher voltage it has to be wound this way or it will short out .

With the coils wrapped in sequential order , there is no such problem .

But if you look @ it the way I do , and see a mirror transformer that was used to tickle the vacuum , there is no difference whatsoever whether you wind both red and green in same bobbins or not, it will be the same mirror image , since the coupling facotr is probably insane already .

One has double power going through cell , one has no power going throught cell .

So in the end , this is a good coil for the dreamer and the realist .

Do  you suggest the same for the secondary as I notice this is also a bifilar wrap in stan’s pics

Bw

For the 6-1 , the secondary is just regular wrapped .

I dont understand coil 10-4 to tell you the truth , it makes no sense to me ...

so which of those two images is right now?

Both of them , they are the same

Im talking about the construction when you are making it . This sequential reb/green/red/green is the right one .

If each cavity is wound bifilar with both red and green wires , there will be dielectric breakdown of the enamelling .

Its now clear to me that this is the right way the bifilar chokes for the VIC spools.

If each section has both red and green , there is only 2  layers of double insulation between each-choke so things will start shorting out @ 4.5 KV and beyond . So if this is meant to go to higher voltage it has to be wound this way or it will short out .

With the coils wrapped in sequential order , there is no such problem .

But if you look @ it the way I do , and see a mirror transformer that was used to tickle the vacuum , there is no difference whatsoever whether you wind both red and green in same bobbins or not, it will be the same mirror image , since the coupling facotr is probably insane already .

One has double power going through cell , one has no power going throught cell .

So in the end , this is a good coil for the dreamer and the realist .

Check out the following video , title ... Watch every second , pay attention to everything .

Pure voltage...No amperage...step charge...Smaller capacitor.flv

Uou can see in connection and cap in first few seconds , pay attention and listen .

http://www.youtube.com/user/Zer0PointUnlimited

Check out this guy , best I ever saw on youtube .

that bi-directionnal word is probably nothing special , Radiant's xformer was just a regular neon transformer .


Radiant_1 , whats your take on this , this workd "bi-directionnal" ?

@Outlawstc
"it is resonance not of electric but of waters natural ability to take on the charge"

This may be true...but, water's relaxation time is rather slow. Being so slow, it holds a charge rather well when done right.
For instance study Lord Kelvin's Water Drop Generator. The water is charged as it leaves the water container.


"Even though water has no overall electric charge, it is full of movable electric charges (called ions). Half of the water's charges are positive and half are negative. It is not hard to separate these charges; simply hold an electrified object near the water. The electrified object will attract the "unlike" charges to the water's surface. It will also repel the "alike" charges away deeper into the water.

In the above diagram, the positive object attracts the water's negative ions and repels the positive ions. This draws an excess of negative ions into the tip of the water dripper, while repelling an equal amount of positive ions off to the other end of the dripper. When the water drop detaches from the tip of the dripper, an overall negative electric charge is still trapped in the droplet. The falling water droplet carries away negative charge, leaving the dripper slightly positive. If we catch the falling droplets in a container, the container will become negatively charged. "

So my point is...I TRULY believe it is super simple. I think resonance is for the gains in voltage potential only, but, I could be wrong

Take this as evidence of my stance....
"Microwave heating is sometimes explained as a resonance of water molecules, but this is incorrect: such resonance only occurs in water vapor at much higher frequencies, at about 20 GHz."
I cannot get that high of a frequency....can you?

So you were pulsing that little choke thing with a neon transformer , @ around 5kv .

Yet that capacitor in your video held what ? 50 volts or sumthin ? Resonance was indicated by the speed @ wich it charged , shows how simple it is.... so you just picked a random transformer and random choke and a random capacitor and charged that thing up ? No cuper calculations involved ?

@ what lvl can you usually charge an uncoated water capacitor/cell ?

@ what lvl can you usually charge a coated water capacitor/cell ?

i agree with all your truths you have found dankie. but at the same moment i am curious of your unclear thoughts.. so i search.. my search creates gains.. the gains are more knowlege to base truth off of.... these are gains that * like to see.. people that know that they really cant know everything because to know everything is infinity truth, are the ones of wisdom.. it is impossible to know everything in the time we have here.. but we can know the simple concept of working toward the path of infinity truth.. some people choose to turbulate towards infinity lies.. they are the ones on the path to hell..

I agree ,it has been a long road , it took a long time , our path is still a bit "clouded" , but its a light mist , we can still see the path , we will continure on this path towards infinity .

Some people are there to throw you off your well intentionned path , they are "the fog" , "the fog" plays tricks with your senses and leads you to the "forest of the lost" where you starve to dead and get eaten by wolves .

But some people do not use their eyes to navigate , they do not get influenced by "the fog" . Some people even know how to "defeat the fog" so that everybody can see the path .

The truth is now out there , I am satisfied with this theory and feel its 95% close to what was physically  . The rest is all about fine-tuning this process . But we have now identified the process after alot of speculation , alot of debate .

This counter rotating flux be happen in our cell as well , opposing direction and counter-rotating flux .

This somehow "unwinds the time energy" , and we "let time snap back" ... Or something like that ...  Took that from Bearden

This is it folks , we will get OU by the end of this summer .

Yall get busy now with thyristors and EEC circuits , things are gonna get alot easier now that we know what to look for

To me it was a proof of concept of low amps electrolysis . And radiant's videos are proof of capacitor charging with cancelled flux . I am satisfied with the proof .

JLN certainly didnt update his wfc stuff . His point of view must be much more complex than what he has let us see ...

His coating was mega-Ohm range , so the circuit must have been very very low amps .

To me this is proof that regular electrolysis wasnt performed  ,and that 2+2=4

If we can charge something with a "virtual charge" and use this charge for real , its getting good .

This info is good ... mmmm , delicious perfect lasagna .... mmmmm

this clearly says the windings are OPPOSED....

"Let us imagine the flow through the "choke"...
Since the B-flow flows in one direction...when it interacts in the
choke, it flowing in one direction on the + side...and in the opposite
direction on the - side. The B-Flow is quite simplified in that
drawing, it actually corkscrews around the wire while spinning. These
two spinning corkscrews of flux meet in the bifilar coil on the iron
core...this concentrates both fluxes into the core and essentially
cancels the B-Flow...which then resists the flow of amperage.
The voltage potentials are still there pulling on them."

exactly as demartin has said and exactly as i have seen.

you can't even comprehend the things you read.

put your self on a list of total confusion......oh yeah and i forgot how dynodon, 2curiouswfc, gotoluc, and gmeast were on a list......ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING.

The crux_wfc connection is wrong , this one shown in this picture here is wrong .

Let this be clear , I wasnt the one saying it was hooked up like this if I remember correctly , you were defending this like a fukin inquisitor .

Now you know ...

On this site there will be no dogma , any egos will get crushed .