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6watts and 8 liters HHO per minute...........

Started by unknown · · 285 posts · last reply 16 May 2019

  1. Steve

    #151 ·

    thanks for all the posts here.
    If somebody claims to have a working Meyer setup then why doesnt anybody take a little bit of time and post a video of it?
    With some explanation in it.
    Its that simple...

  2. Steve

    #152 ·

    it doesnt have to be on youtube.
    Just upload it here.
    And you can remove it after a day if you feel thr need...
  3. X-Blade

    #153 ·

    Timeshell do you have it working?
    People have to learn to say "In my opinion"  until they can proove their theories.
    IN MY OPINION Ronnie Walker just want attention and  maybe he believes that it works like he says. But where is it working? It is like Santa...
  4. timeshell

    #154 ·

    Due to health reasons, I am no longer actively working on this project.  This is why I haven't been seen here much in the last few years.  Like I said, I know what I have and am offering some hints.

    Before discrediting us, read, learn and test the instructions he provides. There is a measure of intelligence required to make this project work.  It's not that it's incredibly difficult to understand however.  But, as I said earlier, the process is like a program. The VIC circuit, although appearing relatively simple, is actually specifically designed to accomplish several steps.  You need to be able to grasp this to move forward.  It will never work straight out of the box without proper understanding, design, testing, tweaking.

    I really have no desire to get into a pissing match over this and will very happily disappear from this discussion.  I don't need the stress in my life over this.
  5. X-Blade

    #155 · date not recorded

    Some people just want to see their or other's theories to be tested by others, because they are tired of wasting their own money,
    others just make part of the "Ronnie Walkie-Talkie" team and want to defend his friend.
  6. timeshell

    #156 · date not recorded

    Well, you are certainly entitled to your opinion.

    I've told you some of the most important parts of this project you need to know.

    The fact also is, whether you do it yourself or I spoonfeed you, it won't change how much time or money you spend if you follow the directions.
  7. sebosfato

    #157 · date not recorded

    I'm really surprised you guys haven't figured this out yet.

    The VIC is a program, a set of circuit instructions.

    1.  Polarize the water
    2.  At low voltage start regular electrolysis which in turn...
    3.  Creates HHO gas.  The HHO gradually replaces the place of the water between the plates in the water capacitor which gradually increases the capacitance of the WFC.
    4.  Keep increasing the voltage gradually while adjusting resonance
    5. Eventually the gas replaces all the water between the plates allowing the charge to sky rocket and use voltage to produce HHO.

    Look up Ronnie Walker's forum for details.

    i remember his ideas about starting with electrolysis.. but wouldn't  be the same as if there was just a small amount of water between the electrodes?

    what forum of his you talk about? 

    i think there lot of sense in starting with electrolysis ... if you read my last posts i´m starting to wonder if the hydrogen can be used to reduce the potential required for it...
  8. X-Blade

    #158 · date not recorded

    Timeshell how could you get rid of all water between the tubes? it is impossible, even with amp leakage.
    There is no such thing as "water capacitor" and there is no LC resonance between inductor and the supposed "capacitor".
  9. timeshell

    #159 · date not recorded

    Timeshell how could you get rid of all water between the tubes? it is impossible, even with amp leakage.
    There is no such thing as "water capacitor" and there is no LC resonance between inductor and the supposed "capacitor".

    And that, sir, is exactly why you will never get this to work.

    Look up Leyden Jar and other information about how capacitors work.
  10. timeshell

    #160 · date not recorded

    I'm really surprised you guys haven't figured this out yet.

    The VIC is a program, a set of circuit instructions.

    1.  Polarize the water
    2.  At low voltage start regular electrolysis which in turn...
    3.  Creates HHO gas.  The HHO gradually replaces the place of the water between the plates in the water capacitor which gradually increases the capacitance of the WFC.
    4.  Keep increasing the voltage gradually while adjusting resonance
    5. Eventually the gas replaces all the water between the plates allowing the charge to sky rocket and use voltage to produce HHO.

    Look up Ronnie Walker's forum for details.

    i remember his ideas about starting with electrolysis.. but wouldn't  be the same as if there was just a small amount of water between the electrodes?

    what forum of his you talk about? 

    i think there lot of sense in starting with electrolysis ... if you read my last posts i´m starting to wonder if the hydrogen can be used to reduce the potential required for it...

    Don't over complicate it Fabio.  Remember Stan himself said KISS.
  11. X-Blade

    #161 · date not recorded

    Show me ONE video of a water capacitor without any insulation sustaining voltage after switch off of voltage without inductors.
    Only the newbies to this research will believe in that theory of the capacitor.
    The only comparison possible to a capacitor is the work that is related to the plate area  and the distance between the two plates.
    If you thing that you are another "walkie-talkie" show us a single video of it.
  12. timeshell

    #162 · date not recorded

    Show me ONE video of a water capacitor without any insulation sustaining voltage after switch off of voltage without inductors.
    Only the newbies to this research will believe in that theory of the capacitor.
    The only comparison possible to a capacitor is the work that is related to the plate area  and the distance between the two plates.
    If you thing that you are another "walkie-talkie" show us a single video of it.

    Heh, that I can actually do.  I have a video from 8 years ago where my cell produces small amounts of gas WITH NO POWER ON IT.  :)  This is what happens when you know how to polarize the water.
  13. X-Blade

    #163 · date not recorded

    Lol.
  14. Steve

    #164 ·

    its almost Christmas...
    Unles you are moslims, then you should know what the christmas thoughts are?

    Hohoho  :)


  15. sebosfato

    #165 ·

    I´m all ears... i tried lot of things even very pure water

    the best situation i got was with forced circulation of water where the resistance of the cell drop some

    unfortunately nowadays i´m not good financial situation and having to work a lot to make the month so i´m having few time to work on it ... but i´m very intrigued about what we have discussed recently...
  16. timeshell

    #166 ·

    The type of water used is not important, just as Stan said.  When the water is polarized it can be charged.

    This is because the chokes are used to restrict the amps, not block them entirely as some leakage is necessary to start the process.  Then as gas forms, the capacitance will start to decrease.  Start at lower voltage, like 2V.  Otherwise you won't have room to gradually increase the voltage and retune resonance as the capacitance decreases. This allows you to gradually maximize the charge.
  17. timeshell

    #167 · date not recorded

    its almost Christmas...
    Unles you are moslims, then you should know what the christmas thoughts are?

    Hohoho  :)

    Here's a Christmas thought for you.  Jesus told Pontus Pilate his purpose was to bear witness to the truth.  So why does the world dishonor him by propogating lies about a fat man flying on a sleigh delivering gifts supposedly made by elves living at the North Pole to the children of the world?

    I'm a Christan btw, but from a Christian religion that does not celebrate Christmas as there is no scriptural foundation or support for doing so.  It's not even the actual birth date of Jesus.  There is no truth in it. 
  18. X-Blade

    #168 · date not recorded

    From my experiments water behaves like a capacitor below 2V otherwise it acts like a resistor.
    Set you PSU to 0.5V connect an ammeter with 1 to 100ma, rise the voltage 0.5V each time and wait, Needle will rise and drop again, but until you reach aprox 2V.
  19. timeshell

    #169 · date not recorded

    From my experiments water behaves like a capacitor below 2V otherwise it acts like a resistor.
    Set you PSU to 0.5V connect an ammeter with 1 to 100ma, rise the voltage 0.5V each time and wait, Needle will rise and drop again, but until you reach aprox 2V.

    That's because electrolysis of water starts at around 1.47V.  That's also why when you manage to get a charge on a polarized WFC that it will produce gas when no power is applied to it as long as the charge on the WFC is above 1.5V.  ;)

    When I find the video I will show you.  I watched it fairly recently, but don't know where it is right now.
  20. Steve

    #170 · date not recorded

    its almost Christmas...
    Unles you are moslims, then you should know what the christmas thoughts are?

    Hohoho  :)

    Here's a Christmas thought for you.  Jesus told Pontus Pilate his purpose was to bear witness to the truth.  So why does the world dishonor him by propogating lies about a fat man flying on a sleigh delivering gifts supposedly made by elves living at the North Pole to the children of the world?

    I'm a Christan btw, but from a Christian religion that does not celebrate Christmas as there is no scriptural foundation or support for doing so.  It's not even the actual birth date of Jesus.  There is no truth in it.

    You got me there.
    But even if you dont believe in the fatman or if Jesus was born on those dates, you can agree that the, sadly temporary,  thoughts  of doing good and being nice , is a good one.
    We all should apply to that the whole year, from my point of view
  21. timeshell

    #171 · date not recorded

    X-Blade, you are actually correct in one thing.  The final capacitance and resulting reaction we are looking for only happens once all the water is removed from the cell.  This is what the current leakage is used for.
  22. timeshell

    #172 · date not recorded

    its almost Christmas...
    Unles you are moslims, then you should know what the christmas thoughts are?

    Hohoho  :)

    Here's a Christmas thought for you.  Jesus told Pontus Pilate his purpose was to bear witness to the truth.  So why does the world dishonor him by propogating lies about a fat man flying on a sleigh delivering gifts supposedly made by elves living at the North Pole to the children of the world?

    I'm a Christan btw, but from a Christian religion that does not celebrate Christmas as there is no scriptural foundation or support for doing so.  It's not even the actual birth date of Jesus.  There is no truth in it.

    You got me there.
    But even if you dont believe in the fatman or if Jesus was born on those dates, you can agree that the, sadly temporary,  thoughts  of doing good and being nice , is a good one.
    We all should apply to that the whole year, from my point of view

    I'm pretty sure that's the way Jesus lived.  And look at all the miracles he performed throughout his 3 1/2 year ministry, including on the Sabbath which the religious leaders fought against.  He didn't perform good deeds only on holy days.  Hence to be followers of Jesus Christ, we need to live like him every day.  John 17:3
  23. sebosfato

    #173 · date not recorded

    so you should start with the cell 10% of water only? and maybe with something obstructing the output?

    are you trying to say we should be electrolysing only steam?

    wouldnt the delrin melt:? i already done a little damage at one cell connector for the heat it got on the damn spring..

    perhaps isnt a bad idea to work with steam ...

  24. timeshell

    #174 · date not recorded

    KISS

    This works as Stan describes.

    Just normal water.  Plates/submerged.  No heat.  Not steam.  Water stays cold. Nothing special there.

    The plate gap is important to be small.  With a tiny gap, it helps to capture the gas as it gets stuck between the plates or tubes making it easier to clear the water between them.  This in turn decreases the capacitance of the WFC requiring adjustment of the voltage and pulsing frequency.  Keep doing this until all water exits the tubes and voltage is at its peak.
  25. sebosfato

    #175 · date not recorded

    ?