Look familiar? See attached pic or the link someone else copied and uploaded to the cloud... (http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y320/h2opower/EXAMPLEOFLASERSETUPOFMEYER.png)
In my opinion, Ozone is the exact opposite of what we ultimately want to achieve. The opposite of Ozone is highly charged(positive) Oxygen atoms or otherwise known as "Nascent", "Ionized", or even "Monoatomic" in some cases. The same goes for Hydrogen, although, there is only one electron to deal with. The higher voltages of 15V and on up can easily ionize both O2 and H2 to their monoatomic state resulting in increased energy output from the combustion of the two gases.
Unstable gases such as these don't stay fully charged for very long. To get the most energy from the process, the nascent gases need to be used almost instantly after the disassociation occurs. It doesn't take very much time before these atoms become stable again to form O2, O3, H2, and the likes. Atoms don't like to be unstable and will do almost anything to get back to a stable state.
Thank you Dave! A simple neon transformer you say? Then, yes there is a choke. But, now I am way more curious as to how they can calculate a tube filled with water vapor(less than one atmosphere) is regulated to have such an impedance. I wish I was there. I'm sure I would have been kicked out of class for so many questions. How do you think the tube is filled and how it is calculated to get the effect you saw?
Accelerated electrolysis... I like the sound of that! Although, as I and others have stated before, Even if we could make a much more efficient way of splitting water, the HHO still is not powerful enough to run a load no matter how much we can fit into the cylinder. That only leaves us one other option... Increase the potency of the gases. More bang for your buck!
Yes! Let the voltage do the work! Not the potential voltage between the exciters, but the eV(electron volts).
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In physics, the electron volt (symbol eV; also written electronvolt[1][2]) is a unit of energy equal to approximately 1.602×10−19 joule (symbol J). By definition, it is the amount of energy gained by the charge of a single electron moved across an electric potential difference of one volt. Thus it is 1 volt (1 joule per coulomb, 1 J/C) multiplied by the electron charge (1 e, or 1.602176565(35)×10−19 C). Therefore, one electron volt is equal to 1.602176565(35)×10−19 J.[3] Historically, the electron volt was devised as a standard unit of measure through its usefulness in electrostatic particle accelerator sciences because a particle with charge q has an energy E=qV after passing through the potential V; if q is quoted in integer units of the elementary charge and the terminal bias in volts, one gets an energy in eV.
The electron volt is not an SI unit and its value must be obtained experimentally.[4] Like the elementary charge on which it is based, it is not an independent quantity but is equal to (1 J/C)(2 h α / μ0 c0)0.5 It is a common unit of energy within physics, widely used in solid state, atomic, nuclear, and particle physics. It is commonly used with the SI prefixes milli-, kilo-, mega-, giga-, tera-, or peta- (meV, keV, MeV, GeV, TeV and PeV respectively). Thus meV stands for milli-electron volt.
Atomic properties like the ionization energy are often quoted in electron volts.
In chemistry, it is often useful to have the molar equivalent, that is the energy that would be produced by one mole of charge (6.02214129(27)×1023) passing through a potential difference of one volt. This is equal to 96.4853365(21) kJ/mol.[3]
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13.6 eV: The energy required to ionize atomic hydrogen. Molecular bond energies are on the order of one eV per molecule.
I don't care too much for Freddy's theories, although, he did show what seemed to be his truck running fairly well with a simple and cheap modification to the vehicle. It appeared to have run on HHO of typical popular designs of recent times. What is not well known is he also added some gasoline to the water. At first, your knee jerk reaction would be to dismiss him altogether, but, when you look deeper into what he was doing, you may be able to realize he had done something old yet new and possibly very inexpensive to build using only the technology most of us have been using already for our own tests and so on. He had solved a problem that has plagued HHO researchers for years by simply adding a little gasoline to the mix.
You see? What Fast Freddy may have done is most ingenious! What may have come off as a blunder could be the revolutionary design all of us have been searching for. A milestone in the history of HHO research. I hate making predictions, but, I think this may catch on soon and be a popular modification for HHO enthusiasts and alike. His design is easily replicated since he used the same ideas we have all been using for the past decade or more. He just changed a few parameters.
Here is how it works... the cell is a typical "Stan Meyer" type multi-tubular cell, with a PWM and all the other doodads like pressure valves and flashback arrests. Contents of the cell consist of 80% water and 20% gasoline. Freddy claimed 2%. But, 80% water is still damn good on savings in gasoline. Remember, gasoline engines can run very efficiently on gasoline vapors, reducing the consumption by at least 80%. But the problem of overheating soon will overtake the engine without proper cooling such as water injection as used in the days of the war. On the other hand, HHO does not have enough energy to produce the same thermal output as gasoline, no matter how much we can cram in the cylinder before detonation. HHO simply does not have the energy to run any motor or engine at full throttle with a load in normal conditions. In short, HHO has no torque. So, gasoline vapors are too hot, and HHO is too cool, but when we put the two together, things seem to work out just right. Hence, Fast Freddy's HHO, gasoline vapor, and water injection system. Basicly, it's a $500.00 DIY system that can save you 80% or more on your gas bill.
The fuel savings is not a result of using water, it's the other way around. The water is used to cool the combustion zones instead of liquid gasoline. Liquid gasoline does not burn! I did the quote as to shine a little light on the subject and possibly steer the conversation back to the original question, instead of veering off into molecular friction, microwaves, and what not.
Without water injection or some other means to cool, using gasoline vapors to run a motor/engine will result in overheating. Using HHO, which is in vapor form, does not require cooling. Why?
It's a conundrum to me. I split the water, then mix the HHO with water vapor or mist, then burn the gasses back into water, while the heat generated from that burn is absorbed by the "already mixed in" water vapor/mist and expands rapidly by flashing to steam? Finally, it is assumed there will be enough energy to effectively run a certain type of motor/engine? Is that the gist of it? I suppose anything is possible, and I won't know till I try it. Something about it just doesn't seem right.
There is very little thermal energy(heat) output from the combustion of HHO in it's normal ground state. Hence the need to positively ionize the gasses, not only to control the volatility of the mixture, but to increase the thermal output of the combustion. And there are other factors such as HHO needing to be an almost perfect 2:1 ratio for combustion to occur. I believe Stan figured this all out through his works and came to the final conclusion that in order to ensure no misfires or mishaps, he would have to design an injector that would do all of the needed processes and reactions to happen in the injector and cylinder. 1st, inject a mixture of water, positively ionized air, and exhaust through the high voltage zones of the injector into the cylinder, 2nd, compress the mixture in the cylinder with the upstroke of the piston, and 3rd, detonate the compressed mixture at the optimal time of the cycle. Any water not split in the reaction will definitely result in added torque from the water flashing to steam.
The one I use at work cost $300.00 and there is a cheaper one for home use, but, it's about $200.00. Not exactly affordable... How it works is pretty straight forward. Basicly, it's an electrolysis cell with a membrane in between the two plates.
I have a new cleaning tool at work called "The Ionator". It uses ionized water to clean surfaces. I was most intrigued by this device and I did some searching. This is what I found...
Now if I could just be allowed to disassemble it even though it's housed in a see through housing. I would like to know what the circuits are for this doohickey!
Atomic and molecular excitons Alternatively, an exciton may be thought of as an excited state of an atom, ion, or molecule, the excitation wandering from one cell of the lattice to another. When a molecule absorbs a quantum of energy that corresponds to a transition from one molecular orbital to another molecular orbital, the resulting electronic excited state is also properly described as an exciton. An electron is said to be found in the lowest unoccupied orbital and an electron hole in the highest occupied molecular orbital, and since they are found within the same molecular orbital manifold, the electron-hole state is said to be bound. Molecular excitons typically have characteristic lifetimes on the order of nanoseconds, after which the ground electronic state is restored and the molecule undergoes fluorescence. Molecular excitons have several interesting properties, one of which is energy transfer (see Förster resonance energy transfer) whereby if a molecular exciton has proper energetic matching to a second molecule's spectral absorbance, then an exciton may transfer (hop) from one molecule to another. The process is strongly dependent on intermolecular distance between the species in solution, and so the process has found application in sensing and molecular rulers.
Oxygen will absorb and emit ultraviolet, while, Hydrogen will absorb and emit infrared... So, I assume he used both at one point or another. In fact, in the tech breif he illustrates how to make a laser device with the use of ionized hydrogen to emit infrared.
Now after watching the New Zealand video again, I'm not so sure of my thoughts on the subject nor do I agree with a lot of what he states. I have no doubt what he purports is workable, it's just his explanations of certain parts seem to be way off or misrepresented.
He claims the water molecule will elongate. I would like to devise a test device to see this with a drop of water somehow to see this. Any Ideas?
