If I were to have a tank of hydrogen and a tank of oxygen and I was able to positively ionize the two gasses making the atoms less in mass(removing electrons) before ignition or oxidation, would the thermal energy of the combustion be increased or decreased?
(http://www.oralchelation.com/technical/images/micrgrph.gif) As the graph shows, the NMR signal that measures cluster size by line width at half-amplitude shows 65 Hz for reduced water and 133 Hz for tap water, revealing that the reduced water clusters are approximately half the size of tap water clusters.
Through electrolysis, reduced water not only gains an excess amount of electrons (e-), but the cluster of H2O seem to be reduced in size from about 10 to 13 molecules per cluster to 5 to 6 molecules per cluster. ( see the graph )
Yes, that is correct. Oxygen can be extremely reactive depending upon how many electrons are missing from the atom. Oxygen has a very high affinity for electrons(electronegativity) and will take them from anything such as hydrogen which is weaker or metals that have an abundance of free moving electrons like copper. That's why metals make good conductors. And if the reactive oxygen cannot find an electron to fill it's shell/s it will substitute it with stuff like dust particles. That's why "Oxyclean" is such a good cleaning product much like hydrogen peroxide. Can reactive oxygen steal electrons from water molecules? Yes, they can!
Thank you for the clarification. Very interesting! Does your VIC get warm at all? I am assuming you are not getting any abnormal amount of gas production with such low current. How much water is the cell submerged in? I often have wondered after seeing a picture of the multi-celled, white, round, whatever it was called, if the water level was just slightly above or maybe even a little lower from the top of the cells. The way the design is made, the reservoir in the middle of the cell would lead me to think that the water was meant to flow out of the cells back into reservoir with great speed. This rapid circulation would possibly aid in releasing gasses from the bubbles more effectively and further ionization of the gasses. I wonder if the mass of the water has to, in some way, match up to the 10Khz? Everything else in the world has a resonance based on it's mass, why not water too? But, then you may have to ponder if the mass is only relevant to the space in the cell only, or is the entire bath part of the equation.
Hi Dynodon. What cell did you measure with? Is this with or without water? Thank you for your time and info! Oh, yeah! and why did you choose to use the same size wire for both primary and secondary/chokes?
Hi AncientMist, Hi Donald! It is truly a pleasure to have this discussion with you guys. I have attempted to talk about this with friends and I haven't got much of a response. As soon as the words "Quantum Physics" come out of my mouth the lights turn off and they walk away from it. It can be a lonely intellectual world sometimes, can't it?
He's talking about quantum physics basically... He left out a lot of the math, but, that is not critical to completely understanding the concepts and filling in the rest of the blanks.
For example, a quote from Atomic Energy Balance of Water.
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Energy Recycling Spectrum is achieved since expelling de-energized water molecule (s) is/are opto-sensitive to photon energy in that photonenergy is composed of electromagnetic radiant energy transmitted through the medium of space by way of pulse-oscillations known as "frequency of wavelength" and, is expressed by a quantum of Electromagnetic energy in the following equation
E = hv
Where, (E) is the energy, (h) is Planck's Constant (energy x time) (6.547 X 10 -27 erg-second), and (v) is the frequency associated with the photon.The momentum of the photon in the direction of propagation transversing the medium of space is, thus, expressed by the following equation
hv /c
Where, (c) is the quantum of electromagnetic energy carried in a small amount and moving with the speed of light. Optical Photons having energies corresponding to wavelengths between 120 and 1800 nanometres ... thus, propagating sun's light or its direct rays
With what he has given us here is enough to calculate the whole ball of wax even though he is only focusing on re-energizing water droplets with sunlight. As with any of Stan's devices, all can still be calculated with the same equations. All you really need is the frequency of the emitted photon(quanta).
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I can calculate Planck's constant, by ONLY knowing the frequency of an emitted photon; not knowing the energy level of the photon at all, on an equation that can fit on my thumb.
It really is a KISS method, although, on a quantum level...
Voltage attenuation is nothing more than turning a dial. Wiki says..."In electrical engineering and telecommunications, attenuation affects the propagation of waves and signals in electrical circuits, in optical fibers, as well as in air (radio waves)." A variable voltage can be attenuated.
To tell you the truth, I never really thought much of this replacing automobile transmissions as much as I look at it as something I can easily understand, repair, or even replicate for other uses like keith mentioned above. I first imagined a GEET setup used with this where throttling can be a problem. Most HHO systems have a throttling problem similar to the GEET and not to mention wind generators having variable speeds. I wonder if this could be implemented into electric vehicles somehow? Do electric vehicles use transmissions or are the all one speed?
OK! I spent the day playing around with various coils and didn't find too much. The one thing I did notice is the choke coil does not resonate or is in constant resonance? No matter what frequency I put through it, it stays the same in voltage and current. Voltage levels tested were 12V and under. I wonder if the power levels I am using are too low to see any anomalies? Back to the lab!
SCALAR TRANSLATORS by Joseph John Misiolek 05/02/91
Note: Accompanying diagrams (Fig_A.GIF thru Fig_D.GIF) are saved in 640*350 resolution w/16 colors.
Overview:
Before we begin, for those of you new to the art, a translator is a device which can 'convert' EM energy into SCALAR or vice versa.
When coverting EM energy to SCALAR, what you are actually doing is attempting to create a subtructure in which the energy is folded in on itself in such a way that it manifests no external net effects in the manner in which our current test equipment (single stage interaction) is designed to detect, but rather, maintains all of its energy within the substructure itself (hyperspace), in other words, SCALAR WAVES.
These types of waves are quite capable of penetrating conventional forms of em shielding (Faraday Cages) while remaining quite invisible to standard (single stage) detection methods.
They are created by deliberately opposing the E and/or B field components of ordinary em waves. Devices designed to encourage this type of wave formation are called TRANSLATORS.
A translator which can only convert EM to scalar or scalar to EM is known as a 'one-way' device. There are certain types of translators which are capable of converting freely from EM to scalar and back. These devices are known as 'two-way' devices. Lets take a closer look at some of the one-way devices.
ONE-WAY TRANSLATORS
A one way translator (EM-scalar) is extremely simple to construct. In fact, the typical home or apartment is literally FULL of these devices now! Consider the common two conductor lamp cord used on many lights, small appliances, and radios.
This cord is commonly referred to as 'zip cord'. As the current surges through the first wire, the second wire is carrying the return current in the opposite direction. The EM fields whirling about the conductors are in opposition.
Up until now, most of you were taught that the fields, while in opposition, 'cancel' each other out. Does this mean that the energy contained in those fields is destroyed? OF COURSE NOT!
We CANNOT destroy energy. We CAN cause it to change its form and this is precisely what happens when fields in opposition 'cancel' out.
As the current oscillates through the wires, an oscillating SCALAR WAVE results. If a direct current is applied to the wire pair, a 'static' scalar EM field results.
Wire Pair Translator:
Tests have shown that the 'zip cord' described above, while conducting a 60 cycle alternating current, will generate a 120 cycle scalar em wave.
Here we have the first (and perhaps the most basic) type of translating device. A single conductor folded in half and parallel will produce a scalar wave if it is fed energy from an alternating current source. This basic translator is at the heart of the next device.
Non-Inductive (Bifilar) Translator:
Let us now take our simple translator and wind it into a helical shape. We have just created what is commonly known as a non-inductive (bifilar) coil. Such coils are copious one-way emitters of these waves as well.
Unlike the simple translator above which will produce horizontally or vertically polarized scalar waves (depending on their orientation to the ground plane), this type of translator will produce circularly polarized scalar waves.
A variation of this type of translator is to wind the coil on a 45 degree angle up and down the length of the form creating a series of 90 degree intersections where the windings cross (caduceus coil).
These types of translators (which can also be wound at other angles to facilitate the production of different wave types) tend to create 'free' A, 'free' B, or 'free' E fields which have been separated from the em source wave by selective cancellation of the unwanted component fields of the source wave.
Bucking Coil Translator:
Another type of translator that I have experimented with consists of two coils (air-core) arranged so that the fields oppose or 'buck' against one another.
All that is necessary for this translator to produce scalar waves is an alternating source of current with the coils wired so that the north and south poles created by the coils oppose each other.
The region between the coils where the north/south poles oppose is known as the ZPE (zero-point energy) zone. Although scalar substructures are created in the zpe, this type of translator is not exceptionally efficient due to the flux leakage at the other end of the coils. (The accompanying diagram will clarify this.)
This was one of the two types of translators discovered and examined by Nikola Tesla. If you refer to his 1904 lecture in London, you will notice that the demonstration coil Tesla used which was encased in a zinc box (Faraday Cage), had a secondary coil that consisted of two halves wound oppositely.
The coils as described in that book would have created a zpe zone between them. The field would have been capable of penetrating the zinc box, (whereas normal em waves would not) and this is most likely how Tesla stumbled onto it. There is at least one other translator Mr. Tesla stumbled onto which we shall discuss next.
Lenzs' Law Translator:
In Tesla's Colorado Springs diary (1899-1900) he noted that he was experiencing a problem in keeping the top turns of his coils from shorting out due to breakdown of the insulation on the wires under the high electric potential he was creating.
In effect, the top turns were shorted, closed loop conductors positioned on top of the operating section of the coil. If you ever had physics in high school, you will remember Le Chatelier's Principle:
WHENEVER WE UNDERTAKE ANY ACTION TO CHANGE AN EXISTING PHYSICAL SYSTEM, THE SYSTEM REACTS IN SUCH A WAY AS TO OPPOSE OUR ACTION.
By applying this principle to the interactions of currents and magnetic fields, we have Lenzs' Law. This means the the field being radiated by the operating (un-shorted) portion of the Tesla oscillator, caused a counter field of opposite energy to be created in the shorted turns.
The zone between the functioning and reciprocating areas of the coil is a zpe zone very similar to the zone created in the bucking coil translator. This was the second translator that Tesla had discovered. By constructing a Tesla oscillator, and fixing a shorted loop to the top, we may produce powerful scalar emissions.
Multiple Antenna Translator:
This method of producing scalar waves lends itself to the production of powerful scalar beams which can be used in military (weapon) applications.
The basic idea here is to use pairs or arrays of antennae spaced at 1/4 or 1/2 wave intervals, and possibly log-periodic arrays and yagi-type configurations as well, which are fed rf energy and wired in such a way as to cause total or partial phase conjugation of the waves projected from them.
The antennae may consist of any combination of the antennae now in use for communications in any band desired. Consult the Radio Amateurs Handbook for antenna types and configurations. The possibilities here are alomost endless and are well beyond the scope of this text.
Well thats all for now. Serious researchers are invited to contact me here through the message section of this BBS for information exchange and think tank discussions. Post Mail to Joseph Misiolek.
Vangard note...
To assist in a further understanding of Le Chatelier's Principle and Lenz' Law, we include the full definition from Van Nostrand's Scientific Encyclopedia.
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Le Chatelier's Principle
Let us perturb a system which is initially in stable equilibrium to a neighboring non-equilibrium state. Since the initial equilibrium is supposed to be stable, the system will return to an equilibrium state.
Theorems governing the behavior of perturbed systems are often known as "theorems of constraint" or "theorems of moderation." The best known thermodynamic theorem of moderation is that of Le Chatelier-Braun which in the form stated by Le Chatelier is:
"Any system in chemical equilibrium undergoes, as a result of a variation in one of the factors governing the equilibrium, a COMPENSATING CHANGE in a direction such that, had this change occurred alone it would have produced a variation of the factor considered in the OPPOSITE DIRECTION."
However, this principle suffers from a number of important exceptions. it is therefore preferable to study the "moderation" starting from the usual thermodynamic formalism without invoking a special principle.
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Lenz' Law
A general law of electrodynamic induction, stated by H. F. E. Lenz in 1833. It points out that the electromotive force induced by the variation of magnetic flux, with reference to a conductor, in the manner discovered by Faraday, is always in such direction that, if it produces a current, the magnetic effect of that current opposes the flux variation responsible for both electromotive force and current.
An outstanding illustration is the drag on a generator armature; if the armature circuit is closed, the rotation is opposed by a torque arising from the reaction between the field and the current in the armature conductors.
Power must therefore be applied to drive the machine; and the greater the armature current, the more power is required.
The effect known as MAGNETIC DAMPING also depends upon Lenz' law.
A copper disk, when spun between the poles of a strong magnet, quickly comes to rest because of the opposing torque. This arrangement serves as a speed regulator in watt-hour meters.
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Warren York and his group out of El Paso have been working along the lines of the 45 degree angled SMITH coil for SCALAR manipulations.
Warren has published articles on the work in EXTRAORDINARY SCIENCE and the TESLA journal, both out of Colorado Springs. The addresses of these fine publications is listed on KeelyNet under CONTACT1.ASC or .ZIP.
This is to date the finest article (TRANSLRT.ZIP) we have yet seen on the phenomena grouped as SCALARS. The attached diagrams help to visualize what is necessary for you to do your own experiments in this burgeoning field.
Please feel free to distribute this article and the attached diagrams throughout the networks and your own contacts.
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Donald, you and I think a lot alike. I too pondered your very idea and still do. The Tesla Coil and the VIC are not quite the same, although, you bring up a very good point and it should be researched a little deeper. In the book "Secrets of Cold War Technology" by Gerry Vassilatos, He explains a bit about what we see a Tesla Coil as today and really how Tesla used his coils. When you see a TC sparking and stuff, that version of it is made famous by Sir Oliver Lodge. He sort of reinvented the TC with AC instead of DC and called it a Tesla Coil. the TC was not intended to do such things. It was only one of many for a wireless power network. Tesla describes his process as the opposite of radio, where he used virtually no EM energy on the top side of the coil. most of the energy was utilized through the earth. Stiffler and Meyl have a ton of useful information if any of you haven't read their material or replicated their work.
OK, a friend and I were talking and he showed me a really nice video that I would like to show all of you.
A description from the sale @ eBay
The coil has three output methods:
Capacitive coupling - this is where the plasma is created between the two plates
Surface Tracking - this is where the coil has glass elements attached with metal edges and the high voltage sparks from in inner to the outer rim.
Straight output - this is where the two sides of the coil spark to one another in a raw display of high voltage power
The specs are:
15 kv 30 ma neon sign transformer
Plastic capacitors 40kv .01 mf capacitor
Adjustable parallel bar spark gap
Squirrel cage type blower for spark gap quenching
This coil is interesting and fun to experiment with. Suitable for use in the classroom, physics labratory, even in your livingroom if not for extended periods. (as it creates ozone, which isn't good to breathe in heavy concentrations)
Makes an awesome conversation piece. I've had it in my den for some time, and it never fails to get the "What the heck is that thing?" questions. Which of course provides a good opprotunity to fire it up.
Desperate times call for desperate measures so I'm putting her on the market.
Any flaws that you see in the pics (dust/wood chips/ect) will be fixed before she ships out.
Excellent ideas Dankie! I was reviewing the info Steve posted and I noticed the intake ionizing system utilized the LED arrays. This is not a big deal other than finding who sells these. Any Ideas?
