Voltage does Work!!! And Here is why!!
Started by unknown · · 88 posts · last reply 30 January 2011
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Ok. I am not sure if anyone has put this together but here goes.
Stan did point out the theory/process in his Tech Brief and his patents and here is why. First I am going to talk about the principle of electronics of a general nature.
Electricity needs voltage and current. Voltage in electrical is pressure. Current is the flow of electrons per sec. So what is the flow of electrons which is current? Well you need voltage of course, but what voltage does is push the physical mass of the electrons physical mass which is the electron out of each orbit of copper or related material to produce movement to create electricity. The reason this can be done is the force of the outer orbit of the electron in copper is very weak. Voltage pushes the electron. This physical force of the electrons creates current. Ok.
Now if we look at Stans equation he points out out acceleration = Force/mass. Mass is the physical component and the Force is Voltage which is represent by the formula of two charges/radius^2. This is directly related to the flow of current.
So how does this work for Stans process. Well it is easy. The physical mass of his circuit was directly relate to the atoms of Oxygen and Hydrogen aka(Water). The higher voltage is needed to push the physical mass of the atoms apart. The force of voltage does need to be in both opposition to each other. Meaning a high positive and high negative voltage on both sides. One of the positive voltage pulls the oxygen atom while the negative side pulls the hydrogen atom. The reason for the high voltages is looked at because you are pulling a very much larger mass.
Now I know most everyone know this but the point I am make is how his circuit does not use current. He is building a high voltage to create the force need to act on the water molecule. The only current draw is the circuit resistance getting to build a charge across the capacitor.
It is no different than the theory of electricity which has the same principles. Instead you are looking at it at a larger scale from the atom itself.
This is how voltage can work by splitting the water molecule!!
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#2 · date not recorded
Yes! Thats exactly what i'm saying!
If you put 12volts on the water and it have a gap of 1mm you have an electric field of 12kv/m. This is a huge force acting on the ions inside the water. The fact is that if the water don't conduct electricity (pure water) you get a very tiny current when you apply 12v however you are providing the separation of the ions h+ and oh-. What stan do is to than collect this ions generating electricity while stabilizing and or destabilizing the ions. When you close the circuit you generate the gas. Stan went even further and used the heating element to avoid the stabilization of the gases so they came out of the water as ions as electrons are emited cause of the heat. Is very much like creating a fusion reaction between the two sides of the coin so thats why he could run a car with very small amount of gas. I found a formula for particle acceleration that say acceleration is equal to the charge of the particle divided by its mass than multiplied by the electric field. Basically is right however the acceleration would be limitless being even much bigger than that of light speed. So all this to say stan used some of the proton 938Mev and electron 511Kev rest energy to cause thermal expansion. The total energy of a particle is its kinetic energy plus its rest energy. If you apply 12v on a particle it will travel from one electrode to the other and when it complete the travel it will have a kinetic energy of 12ev. 1 ev is = to the value of a charge but is a measure of energy in joules. Ev is charge divided by potential difference. Voltage is how many joules you have per coulomb.
The thing is that if the both voltages across the water being positive and negative have no relation to each other in the sense that it is not connected physically. You can still have a big deal of electric field without current leaking. I mean two transformers or only one with isolated secondaries connected only with one wire obviously thru a diode. Maybe two 100Mohm resistor are needed just to complete the circuit.
I'm trying to find how to calculate the ions speed as to find the frequency you can apply. WIth the right equipment and materials i could determine this empirically, however the investors are still afraid. Soon i will have a lab with limitless funds and a mathematician friend to work on it than will be very easy.
The real big problem is that you must trap the ions kinetically so they can become electricity. Stan used the coil so he could short the circuit without shorting the source. When he shorted the circuit the coil start to get charged and when he opened the coil discharge again. This is what he meant by restrict the current in a dead short condition, and frequency doubling. Now that i have more time i would like to work on this but i don't have a decent oscilloscope nor money to buy more components. Hopefully a good soul will invest in me soon.
I'm quite certain that stan didn't used SS or at least that is not the best option. Maybe and i say only maybe he succeeded in creating so much force that even the SS worked.
The thing is that you apply 12v and lets say during the charge of the water 1ma flowed, This mean that than all the ions of the water will be glued on the electrodes, with contrary same voltage and with much greater current thus more electrical energy than went in.
Steve once connected the oscilloscope to the water applied maybe 12 volts and than disconnected and than noticed something that at that time we discussed and thought to be a back emf. Well it wasn't, it was the real voltage of the ions. This pretty much prove what i'm saying.
I'm glad you understood it AnsientMist. If you read my last 20 posts you might understand even more. I'm trying to explain this since a long time.
I think we should work with a water very very pure maybe using 1000volts this complicate a bit the switching.
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Sebosfato,every cell that Stan had was made with stainless steal,that I am certain,because I've seen all of them personally.And I do know what stainless looks like.
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Hey sebosfato.
Your process does follow in the same manner. Finding the relationship of the acting force on the electrons in the water molecule. That is true and is better suited for the use of the extraction circuit. This does also happen in the WFC. But in my opinion the voltage force is needs to be directly related to the atoms of the water molecule because the atom has a very much larger mass. The mass of the atom either hydrogen or oxygen needs to considered.
In sense any frequency can work as long as you build a high voltage potential on both sides. Stan just used resonance to build this high voltage. Both sides of voltage potential physicals pulls the atoms just like Voltage pushes the electrons to make electricity. It is just looked at a different way but it is needed to have two opposite Voltages of the same magnitude.
Because of this I am hoping to solve mathematically how the basic principles of electrical theory (which came from electrical physics) can prove Stan’s work. I am going to work on this today since I cannot contribute to the building process until the future.. But soon.... Cause I want to so bad!!!! -
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Hello Dynodon,
i know you saw them and i actually believe that might be possible to do it with ss. I just think that maybe along the years maybe his cells could have being changed to SS or maybe there was a coating on the inside of the electrodes and it were taken off just to make the thing stop working... I don't really know, just think is possible. Or maybe it can work with ss and maybe stan or someone changed the things to not work and keep the secret... The strange thing is that from stan words its very possible to do work but one must be not only an electrical engineer to correctly design the circuit but must be also a physicist with knowledge in real particle acceleration and plasma to understand fully and be able to replicate what he did. He talks to those with really knowledge in the art.
When i say kinetically trapped i mean the ions must get into the vacancies of the metal much like cold fusion when deuterium get into the palladium "absorbed". When i first heard about cold fusion i don't remember when, I heard that a hell of energy could be generated but not only heat but also electricity since than i never heard anything about it to generate electricity directly. Anyway stan said it was possible so as my friend so i start from the point that i believe them and started dissecting to find what really happens to be able to do this. My friend said that with the right materials and his secret the thing works, when i asked him about ss he said he didn't know how to do with it, i think that for the same reason i said.
The thing is that SS is an alloy or mixture of different metals witch have different masses sizes so the vacancies are much smaller so the probability of trapping ions there are not pretty big. On the other side is known that the D orbit of the platinum kind attracts the hydrogen thats why it works as a catalyst. So thats what i'm saying maybe the SS is enough to make the reaction, but if we were to potentialize the effect to be able to see better the effect maybe some other materials should be used at least at first to understand better whats going on.
Voltage is = to separation of given density of charge.
Hello AncientMist,
I think the resonance is used not only to create the high potential but also for being able to take advantage of the energy created there to make the potential even higher. Under resonance you can recirculate the energy, basically is a very big storage mean able to store many kw of power for 100 of cycles..
Yes and Another thing to consider is the density of the water and the resistance against the movement of the ion to find its maximum speed and maybe even a relativistic adjustment to limit the speed in relation to the speed of light.
You might be even right here and i also think that with proper equipment and a very strong potential you could even work at any frequency but would be very nice to know the maximum frequency and do get there from the math too. =) Go on!
Meyer controlled the voltage and the frequency, i think he did this to have perfect control over the impedance to perfectly match and transfer the max force possible to the electric field.
I'm very happy that we are having this discussion my friends. And i can assure all you that very soon all of us will have many reasons to party. We are going to work together in a new economy based on water. I consider all you the most important people in the world so i want you to work with me for a better world. -
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Sebo,
I became a believer today. Here's what I did. I got Tony & Steve's latest resonance scope shot from their discussion on my screen at around 3980hz using 90% duty going though a 2.36Henry each 4" bifilar wound with 22awg iron powder toroid about thumb width. This was connected to two 3/4" stainless 403 strips 5 inches tall from K & Y from the local hardware and gapped at 1/2MM, glued with goop and enameled on the outside. A silver coated solid telfon 18 awg lead wire was silver soldered to each strip.
I use a variac memo 420 like setup with an irfbc40 mosfet and DSEP12-12B diode and pure 11ppm TDS reverse osmosis water in a graduated cylinder.
Strange gurgling from the coil announces the start of the phenomenon with adjustments to frequency, voltage, and pulse width made.
give it a try, perhaps the inductor has to be huge compared to the cell for this to work
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Hi Kickbackemf,
Very cool! Thanks for the info. Did you noticed gas production? What were the voltage across the water? I'm finishing my new setup of the vic i'm going to have it all finished maybe tomorrow or sunday. I'm finishing the variable coil right now.
Thanks again.
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Sebo,
Gas starts at 15v and goes good at around 30v but then milliamps start creeping in. You can crank voltage up and use amps it seems. This phenomenon is all new for me so I'll have to triple check everything yet.
The strips are 1" wide not 3/4". Voltage with ungrounded probe is 1460v at cell+.
? The jump and blossoming of the waveform when resonance is reached is quite dramatic. I'll be trying short trains of pulses next I suppose.
kb,
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http://www.doctorkoontz.com/Scalar_Physics/Stan_Meyer/Patents/10_Production_of_a_Fuel_Gas/index.html
Figure 1 notice the resonant coil is indicated as an isolated from secondary coil
As the stepped-up pulse enters first inductor (formed from 100 turns of 24 gauge wire 1 inch in diameter), an electromagnetic field is formed around the inductor, voltage is switched off when the pulse ends, and the field collapses and produces another pulse of the same polarity; i.e., another positive pulse is formed where the 50% duty cycle was terminated. Thus, a double pulse frequency is produced; however, in a pulse train of unipolar pulses, there is a brief time when pulses are not present.
This mean that the inductor is not in the same core of the transformer.
Than
http://www.doctorkoontz.com/Scalar_Physics/Stan_Meyer/Patents/70_Thermal_Energy_From_Gases/index.html
Fig 7 and 8 Hydrogen Gas ions (negatively charged)
Light absorption _ Electron entrapment
Fig 9 110v 60hz going into a full bridge rectifier than to the primary of a step up transformer, That is only gated to create pulse trains... That goes into another step up (vic now) Than to the diode and the two separated charging chokes ( being one variable with a shorted segment) !!!
fig 11 Pot 59 control the intensity of the optocouplers diodes to control the power output probably....
Very clear his Pulse shaping network -
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Sebo,
Gas starts at 15v and goes good at around 30v but then milliamps start creeping in. You can crank voltage up and use amps it seems. This phenomenon is all new for me so I'll have to triple check everything yet.
The strips are 1" wide not 3/4". Voltage with ungrounded probe is 1460v at cell+. ? The jump and blossoming of the waveform when resonance is reached is quite dramatic. I'll be trying short trains of pulses next I suppose.
kb,
ps, throw one together for yourself
Nice! I'm doing one for testing here... when ready i post a video and some pictures.
Whet you mean by ungrounded probe?
I think that your water is not much pure, with my water here for 30ma i get 400v across the tubes... no gas however...
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sebo,
re: probe,
not grounded just connected with probe end, no strap, ground plug unconnected at oscope panel
ppm of dissolved solids in natural tap water is around 200-400 ppm tds, an hour of running a cell brings it all up to over 500 ppm tds anyway...
if starting with distilled or RO water is giving some benefit I'd like to know what it is...
correction, I typed 403 steel when I used K & S 430 steel strips at .028 thick
btw, they easily beat the 316L 1/16" thick otherwise identical strips in a quick side by side production observation -
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The primary coil of the torroid is subject to a 50% duty cycle pulse. The torroidal pulsing coil provides a voltage step-up from the pulse generator in excess of five times, although the relative amount of step-up is determined by pre-selected criteria for a particular application. As the stepped-up pulse enters first inductor (formed from 100 turns of 24 gauge wire 1 inch in diameter), an electromagnetic field is formed around the inductor, voltage is switched off when the pulse ends, and the field collapses and produces another pulse of the same polarity; i.e., another positive pulse is formed where the 50% duty cycle was terminated. Thus, a double pulse frequency is produced; however, in a pulse train of unipolar pulses, there is a brief time when pulses are not present.By being so subjected to electrical pulses in the circuit of FIG. 1, water confined in the volume that includes the capacitor plates takes on an electrical charge that is increased by a step charging phenomenon occurring in the water capacitor. Voltage continually increases (to about 1000 volts and more) and the water molecule starts to elongate.The pulse train is then switched off; the voltage across the water capacitor drops to the amount of charge that the water molecules have taken on, i.e. voltage is maintained across the charged capacitor. The pulse train is then reapplied.Because a voltage potential applied to a capacitor can perform work, the higher the voltage potential, the more work is performed by a given capacitor. In an optimum capacitor that is wholly non-conductive, zero (0) current flow will occur across the capacitor. Thus, in view of an idealized capacitor circuit, the object of the water capacitor circuit is to prevent electron flow through the circuit, i.e. such as occurs by electron flow or leakage through a resistive element that produces heat. Electrical leakage in water will occur, however, because of some residual conductivity and impurities or ions that may be otherwise present in the water. Thus, the water capacitor is preferably chemically inert. An electrolyte is not added to the water.In the isolated water bath, the water molecule takes on charge, and the charge increases. The object of the process is to switch off the co-valent bonding of the water molecule and interrupt the sub-atomic force, i.e. the electrical force or electromagnetic force, that binds the hydrogen and oxygen atoms to form a molecule so that the hydrogen and oxygen separate.Because an electron will only occupy a certain electron shell (the shells are well known) the voltage applied to the capacitor affects the electrical forces inherent in the co-valent bond. As a result of the charge applied by the plates, the applied force becomes greater than the force of the co-valent bonds between the atom of the water molecule; and the water molecule becomes elongated. When this happens, the time share ratio of the electrons between the atoms and the electron shells is modified.In the process, electrons are extracted from the water bath; electrons are not consumed nor are electrons introduced into the water bath by the circuit as electrons are conventionally introduced in an electrolysis process. There may nevertheless occur a leakage current through the water. Those hydrogen atoms missing electrons become neutralized; and atoms are liberated from the water. The charged atoms and electrons are attracted to opposite polarity voltage zones created between the capacitor plates. The electrons formerly shared by atoms in the water co-valent bond are re-allocated such that neutral elemental gases are liberated.In the process, the electrical resonance may be reached at all levels of voltage potential. The overall circuit is characterized as a "resonant charging choke" circuit which is an inductor in series with a capacitor that produces a resonant circuit. [SAMS Modern Dictionary of Electronics, Rudolff Garff, .COPYRGT. 1984, Howard W. Sams & Co. (Indianapolis, Ind.), page 859.]Such a resonant charging choke is on each side of the capacitor. In the circuit, the diode acts as a switch that allows the magnetic field produced in the inductor to collapse, thereby doubling the pulse frequency and preventing the capacitor from discharging. In this manner a continuous voltage is produced across the capacitor plates in the water bath; and the capacitor does not discharge. The water molecules are thus subjected to a continuously charged field until the breakdown of the co-valent bond occurs.As noted initially, the capacitance depends on the dielectric properties of the water and the size and separation of the conductive elements forming the water capacitor. -
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I think that what stan mean here is that when the gate acts the gas is generated. He says basically...
In the process, electrons are extracted from the water bath;
(the "isolated bath" gets positively charged in relation to the ground level...
electrons are not consumed nor are electrons introduced into the water bath by the circuit as electrons are conventionally introduced in an electrolysis process.
Ok there is minimum amp flow !!!
There may nevertheless occur a leakage current through the water. !!!
Those hydrogen atoms missing electrons become neutralized; and atoms are liberated from the water. The charged atoms and electrons are attracted to opposite polarity voltage zones created between the capacitor plates. The electrons formerly shared by atoms in the water co-valent bond are re-allocated such that neutral elemental gases are liberated.
Here he talks that OH- ions are electrons and the charged atoms are the H+ [/size][/font]
Well
During the pulsing the water ions are attracted to their respective opposite polarity plate and when the gate acts they come back to reform by impact of ions and as such the H+ become neutralized and become gas...
Basically the important is to charge the water up to high volts and than let it discharge by it self and than the gas will be generated.
I think the Gate is very important. To reach the resonant action the inductor must be able to develop a second high voltage pulse with the only 1 ma for say that is flowing thru it and its discharge time constant must be matched so with the real impedance of the circuit considering the water losses. Than when high voltage is reached the gate is applied cause you must let it discharge to let the gas to be generated. This way he don't need to use high amperage. Makes sense. I think the coils in this case must be of a value to make the electrical resonance at higher frequency possible so you can hit water times faster than its time constant.
From the way he described seems to me that the bath being isolated seems to me with what i read in a patent about recycling of nuclear waste. In the patent they say that if you charge the radioactive material to -600kv its life time become very small cause the colombian forces of the electrons kind of absorb and dissipate the energy.
So what i'm saying is that maybe meyer added another source of very high voltage to the cell isolated from everything. Only one wire. The other wire connected to the outside of the bath maybe a sheet of copper that surround the policarbonate tube. The greater the capacitance the greater will be the charge into the water.
MAn This makes lot of sense " In the process, electrons are extracted from the water bath; "
You cannot extract electrons from the water bath if you have connections only between two plates inside the bath.
OH BOY THIS IS GETING GOOD
So maybe the thing is that he pulses low voltage between the tubes but he charge the water bath in relation to something static to add charge to the water.
Please tell me what you think?
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Think of it we have the plates inside the water witch form one side of the capacitor. In the outside of the bath being it glass or being plexiglass we will have a capacitance that will be mainly determined by its thickness.
In the Independent International ... There is a sheet with the plexiglass characteristics... Hum ?? interesting!
So if you add a sheet of copper in its outside you form an isolated ground bath.
Why Stan Used all that Delrin?
So charging the water you eliminate the covalent bounding so applying a voltage across the zones allow you to create a charge and discharge all there inside of the water by physical impact. Particle oscillation as energy generator.
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Thinking yet again this is more than genial.
The vic sync pulse circuit clearly describes it! I think he created a synchronized way to cancel the covalent bound by the action of the electric fields while the pulse is applied to the plates.
Also i would say that only charging the inside tube in relation to the outer outer capacitance to very high kv will induce a voltage separation between the tubes.
I think that this is what he say in the newzealand video, when he say the water takes on a charge the oxygen atom will get more negative and the hydrogen atom will get more positive and say that when the oxygen become enough negative it will repel the covalent electron thus weakening the covalent bounding.
So we could add a charge to the bath and the electric field do the job. Than is just about creating the potential to the water to collide against it self to liberate the gas.
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Stan yet in another patent http://www.doctorkoontz.com/Scalar_Physics/Stan_Meyer/Patents/20_Voltage_Control_Circuit/index.html
says the folowing:
The resonant cavity described and disclosed therein, is a result of the discovery that when the distance between two stationary bodies is equal in wavelength to the frequency of the movement of an object going back and forth therebetween, the movement of the object will go into resonance. The motion is greatly enhanced and with a repetitive sustained force. The principle applied to the hydrogen and oxygen gas generator of the present invention results in the movement of the water molecules and the atoms to an attractive field will be greatly enhanced when the frequency of the back and forth movement is matched to the wavelength of the distance between the pair of plate exciters.
The amplitude is increased to the minimum for resonance. The voltage amplitude thereafter is maintained at the minimum and raised from the minimum for an increase in gas generation. The minimum is the lower gradient level illustrated in the waveforms of the figures. Since resonance is a matter of matching a physical distance with frequency of the back and forth motion over that distance, matching the particular frequency to the particular wavelength, can be with either d.c. voltage pulses or the duty cycle pulses.
The resonant cavity is depicted in FIG. 4 pictorially. It is understood that the exciter plates 50a-50n of FIG. 1 become resonant cavities by matching the distance between the exciters to a pulse frequency of the same wavelength.
In FIG. 4 and 4C, the duty cycle pulses are matched in pulse repetition rate to the plate distance. In FIG. 4A and 4B, the frequency of the pulsed d.c. voltage is matched to the distance in wavelengths of the plate exciters. With the frequency of one of the set of pulses matched to the resonant wavelength, the frequency of the other set of pulses is varied to further control the electron leakage and/or to vary the rate of generation of the gasses.
What i see:
The wave length for 1mm gap would be laser frequency. So i think is not exactly this... So i guess still the frequency must be calculated by the ions drift speed from one side to the other to know the time will take for the ion to travel that distance. This must be matched with the duty cycle say stan. One thing is that the speed will depend on the voltage and distance and will be limited to the ion speed. So or will be full wave length or half so the ions encounter in the middle to generate the gas...
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The SCR diode is a duty cycle pulse former much in the same manner as the pulse former 27 of FIG. 1. The SCR diode 90 is operational in a conventional manner and the diode 91 is a conventional blocking diode. The operation and function of the resonant cavity is much in the same manner as that of FIG. 1 plate exciters 50a-50n.[/font][/size]
In a Hydrogen Resonant Cavity Furnace, the pulse repetition rate is matched to the wavelength distance between the two exciter plates to maximize the rate of generation to voltage amplitude. The flame is pulsed form a first gradient level to a lower gradient level--but not off. The lower gradient level is sufficient to maintain at all times the amplitude to sustain resonance.[/font][/color]
[/size]Synchronized with the voltage level control of the switching of the duty cycle pulse, is variable pulse circuit 97. The switch 95 provides the demand control to be programmed, that is, the voltage amplitude and the duty cycle pulses.[/size][/size] The SCR switching circuit 90 converts the d.c. voltage pulse output of the rectifier 15 to duty pulses. The duty cycle pulse being variable in pulse repetition rate to match the distance in wavelength of the spacing of the plate exciters 86 and 87. Diode 98 is a blocking diode.[/color] -
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sebosfato,your one post you say that you can't extract electrons from the water with only the two leads hooked to the cell.If you go back and re-read the electron extracting circuit,and look at the schematics,you will see that the extraction only takes place when the pulses are in their off state.Then another circuit turns on and removes the electrons,again while the pulsing circuit is in it's off state.This circuit is tied into the positive wire going to the cell,and thats where the electrons are removed.
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Yes but theres the other EEC schematic with the series resistor too...
But actually what i mean Is that if you make of water and the plexyglass another capacitor, this one will have very good insulation... So you can charge the water and discharge thru the light emiting element to actually consume the electrons inside the bath. So that there is a voltage between the water and the outside of the plexyglass. Stan say that when water get charged if will have other forces acting on the covalent bound thus this will weaken it.
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That sounds like you would just short out your high voltage altogether.Thats not how Stan did it.Don't try to reinvent the wheel.Besides,none of this is important,if we don't get the gasses made with high voltage.We need to make gas with high voltage ,before we can start to extract electrons,because it requires even higher voltage,10-20 kv.So without high voltage you arenot going to extract electrons.The high voltage is needed to pull the electrons from the hydrogen molecule.
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Anyway i'm thinking here and the best way to extract those electrons from the bath and to consume them is to have a spark gap so that when the voltage reach maybe 40kv across the plexiglass the gap fires discharging into a emissive element...
In my opinion there must be still another following the same principle and thus extract more electrons from the gases too.
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I'm saying this in reference to what stan said that in the process electrons will be ejected from the water bath. So bath and not the molecules them self.
If you allow the inner tubes to be one side of the capacitor and a conductive sheet outside of the container to be the other side of the capacitor, and you charge the capacitor being the water side the positive, you must agree with me that the electrons from the water will be directed to the outside forming the negative and leaving the water with less electrons... Now If you keep discharging and trying to consume this electrons you will end up with a deficiency of electrons in the bath. This raise the charge of the positive H+ ions and the negative charge of the oxygen atoms.. As the oxygen become more negative than it was this negatively will repel the covalent bound thus weakening it.
This is stans words from the NZ video The first part.
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For the sake of clarity...
The aluminum represent one side of the capacitor and one of the plates of the cell the other being inside the water... !attachment_6374 Foto criada em 2011-01-22 às 14.25.jpg
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This is the vic sync pulse ... You see the 0v is the outer tube both positives are the inner tube and the virtual ground is the outer side of the capacitor outside the bath...isolated bath.tiff
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Yet more clear adding up another C3 to have two fields isolated from each other that adds up.
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