sebosfato

Wow very nice pictures but is hard to see...

Maybe that transistor limits the current in the primRy allowing the pll to keep  resonance in tune while the voltage rises on the cell

Very nice

Can't wait to see it!

It appears to me that when gating the stepcharging is something that takes place because the voltage peak is always higher when gating but it also goes to zero somewhere...

A curious thing about coils and capacitor is that the conservation of energy can be used to calculate what will be the capacitor voltage equating for the energy you get in a coil in terms of amps and inductance.

for example!: we get 1 amp at a 100 mh coil and it will discharge into a 1nf capacitor the resultant voltage will be 10kv

To veryfy that you calculate the resonant freq and find the Xc and xl and multiply by the amps and should give same result.
In the case:
15915 hz than  xc = 10000 xl = 10000

The time constants are referred to when you get a fixed voltage to charge the capacitor, resonant charging it will discharge with resonant timing so it takes a quarter of the frequency period...

hey how is the tests coming steve?

Hey tektrical i didnt understood well this

Good luck with your hydrogen candle.  Try making a plasma diode, with a neo magnet for one electrode and a needle point for the other. 

what voltages its able to block?

and here

At one percent of the cost of a fuel cell, the plasma diode might be better than trying to run a car engine 24/7 for a few years.

why would be better ?

what did you mean my friend =)

news upcoming i´m doing a few movements here to get the generator up and running on injection system with the hydrogen from aluminum this would be the very first step than i´m planing to heat up the hydrogen since its pure should´t be a problem.. or maybe the oxygen .. .

the idea is heat is vibration and if the products of combustion are super heated vapors the higher the initial heat the molecules will have lot of internal energy and this makes the electrons far away..

well just one thought bouncing back and forth here

it seem i got a monthly donation from someone who saw my page on facebook  (helpmesavetheworld) it will help a lot to keep things on track.. perhaps its one more good reason i have to keep my mind and spirit on it!

i´m getting back to the music work and its also very motivating.. everything i learned is converging to a point...

man i used a small heat dissipator as test and a big chunk of copper bare wire.. . all inside a plexyglass with about 3 liter of solution...

it gave up to 1 amp or 2 dc  if i remember well so having many buckets can be connected in series and perhaps make a induction heating device to regenerate the aluminum... if we put aluminum oxide in molten aluminum will it convert or the temperature must be higher?

one thing that was interesting is that it works like a capacitor because if you charge it with same polarity (higher voltage) it will be able to light a led for a couple of minutes...

i dont know if you remember we talked about it by the end of 2008 start of 2009

this is most i can remember

from there i never tried it again on big scale but is a very good idea

i guess you could use the ss but the alluminum wont be in contact with the ss or it will corrode.. you need it to corrode relative to a metal that has the higher potential possible without being decomposed in the reaction..

i believe coper is a good start but we may find better ones..  just look the electric series..

there is some metals that work better perhaps also in the efficiency of capturing the electricity..

what happens is that when aluminum oxidizes it will left an electron free in the metal to move if there is a potential to the electron flow and discharge in a counter ion on the other side it will simply go there...

so on the other side there is going to be a reduction reaction or for sake the metal will have to exchange electrons with the water and in this process it may also be decomposed.. or depending on the metal it may not..

however from what i see the copper would last a lot longer so only aluminum needs to be replaced

ideally the aluminum should be used in a manner to allow to use its electricity up to the end...

we need to test it!

i would make a closed container that capable of holding pressure but you need a hole with a valve on the low part to be able to extract the liquid or to lower the liquid level below the aluminum pieces when you want to stop the production of the gas also a pressure indicator would be nice...

depending on the size of your buckets and how many you could do a kw dc source if you want! perhaps with 15 big buckets you get 10v 100amps

one thing i never tried was to resonate a capacitor of this kind... one thing about it is what if we could make this kind of electrochemical capacitor discharge the free electrons and holes instead of the displaced electrons from the charging it would be working as generator,...

 I´m using HCL and aluminum to generate H2 for filling balloons sometimes for the beer business..

My plan is to use this H2 to test with the generator i got last year... and perhaps being able to excite the gas somehow ...

How would you get 300k?

selling the energy?

hey... so you are saying the chokes have greater voltage than secondary and in opposite direction, that's why you say the diode won't conduct during pulse on?

 

I agree there may be some other resonance involved.. so far i´m inclined to believe that is related to the ppm value of electrolytes... meyer says is in the audio range from 0 to 10khz .. i think zero would be whenever its overdamped (low ppm or perhaps too high)

lc resonance however is also mentioned by meyer... but here is where the two come into play tuning

what causes the resonance is the right frequency because at this frequency the system is able to accumulate energy and amplify the voltage current because of that

even if we shot in one direction only the ions will oscillate with double frequency because when pulse terminates another pulse comes into play from the chokes

im starting to think that electrical resonance is not even the most important resonance to find

what kind of oxide layer? you deposited something specific?

Very nice still.. but i was also hoping to see some more gas.. =D but its totally fine

very good to know you are back in the team TS ... hope you are fine!

what you mean remove power? for how long it generated? vigorously?

how much power? what cell size? material?

i would love to see it ...where is the video?

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so you should start with the cell 10% of water only? and maybe with something obstructing the output?

are you trying to say we should be electrolysing only steam?

wouldnt the delrin melt:? i already done a little damage at one cell connector for the heat it got on the damn spring..

perhaps isnt a bad idea to work with steam ...

I'm really surprised you guys haven't figured this out yet.

The VIC is a program, a set of circuit instructions.

1.  Polarize the water
2.  At low voltage start regular electrolysis which in turn...
3.  Creates HHO gas.  The HHO gradually replaces the place of the water between the plates in the water capacitor which gradually increases the capacitance of the WFC.
4.  Keep increasing the voltage gradually while adjusting resonance
5. Eventually the gas replaces all the water between the plates allowing the charge to sky rocket and use voltage to produce HHO.

Look up Ronnie Walker's forum for details.

i remember his ideas about starting with electrolysis.. but wouldn't  be the same as if there was just a small amount of water between the electrodes?

what forum of his you talk about? 

i think there lot of sense in starting with electrolysis ... if you read my last posts i´m starting to wonder if the hydrogen can be used to reduce the potential required for it...

Quote from: sebosfato on June 23, 2018, 03:44:59 am

i know what looks like but i dont really trusted the guy... he seems to know too much about everything so little hard to believe.. however is a good idea about the cathode insulation but it become a dbd could it be able to fracture the molecules? well the fracture cell says it can

what you think about this ?

12 years ago, he was a known figure in the OU world.
I just found it intresting that he also uses bemf pulses and eec circuit to create electricity.
The hho as a by product is a bonus.

To be honest, i dont care if he used an insulated kathode. If i am back home in 2 months, i will build two test cells which one has an insulated kathode and the othe one not.
Easy testing....
I want to see if i can get 100dc out at 1 amp....
That 100watts....
Even if it is pulsed.

I dont care too ! it appear to me that is only a matter of the capacitance you can get and voltage applied and frequency to get those amps and voltage at a load... it need to be 100Ohms

having the cathode insulated has two implications assuming he is talking about the negative electrode

the insulated part of the cell would get filled with positive charge water which remember me immediately the patent of meyer saying that  electrons will be ejected from the water bath.. basically as we charge the the delrin water will have positive from both sides

assuming that now we are talking about 20kv it will easily get lot of electrons out of water lets say we are forming H+ ions and charging the electrode with OH- ions

the limitation is only the capacitance

1 farad = 1 amp * 1 sec / 1 volt

meaning that if you apply 1 amps for one second it will increase the voltage by 1 or discharging 1 amp per second will decrease 1 volt of a 1 faraday capacitor

this mean that if you have a small cell you need a high frequency and voltage to get considerable amps ,, ok maybe is not what is needed,,

how ionizers work?

or how can we get away with the electrons? 

the only two ways i see is having one diode connecting the circuit to ground letting electrons go but not return

and  boiling of the electrons in a filament or negative high voltage needle (case of no ground) (the ions formed will however go to ground some time )

this will create an imbalance of charge since when we try to discharge the capacitor and coil back to the cell it wont have the electrons that cannot come back and the ions will necessarily react with water as they will be forced out of the electrode by the coils reversing voltage

on next cycle the opposite happen liberating electrons? this adsorb ions OH- maybe ionized by ejection and maybe with  strong enough pulse is possible to get it totally fractured 

that guy made just like meyer did ... he did lots of patents with somewhat related technology and gave parameters thru them for the realization of the principal that is the wormhole magnetic generator... in this patent he gave the 14 awg and 0.020 inch detail also that he tune to 60hz using external coil and capacitor but he uses a variable metal sheet capacitor

other parameters for this equipment are spread over the other patents

there is another patent of him that i didnt found that is the electric wormhole generator that he mentions in one of the patents but i could not find it ...

I need to open my cell, reconstruct the filter adding a pump back to it.. and get the circuit together again... i have everything over my desktop here but is a little hard to defy the lack of ability to pay bills with interests

anyway you are correct although thinking about can lead to many questions this can only be partially answered thinking.. the only way to confirm is testing!

hopefully i´m developing with this time some calm and abilities to do some different readings than i did in the past

i´m having a feeling that i should stop what i´m doing and just test the things ...

i just remember about parametric change... this is another way to amplify power... for example we charge the capacitor and after the capacitance is charged it change to a lower value somehow.. this would increase the voltage and such as the energy into it! this would allow for having power amplification!!!
 
i was thinking about those amps meyer talks coming from the ecc

i´m not that sure if he was generating power or if he was compressing it..

after all i started to think about what if he was just talking about peak amps of the pulse forming system discharge? and not average 100amps... could it be possible?

anyway this would create serious ionization if used right!

is nice to see the way people try to explain

i could not understand what he meant however

unfortunately this is not the science language so is kind of hard to get what he meant for sure... is like reading about the color of a giraffe or zebra...

the 300ns pulse is one good point... and is what is the timescales i´m working on!

this is the timescales where water will behave as capacitor (being the water pure!)

is good to understand how the things work but is not what we want when we simply want to build something.. a good schematic sometimes get some great result in learning,,,

dealing with electronics is a pain in the *  if you dont know what you r doing.. i can tell you that i spend literaly tens of thousands of dollars burning components until i learn how to use them a little better
 
i highly suggest that you go and understand how a mosfet works how many volts you need to turn it on how high voltage or current it handle and how to protect the mosfet from burn while pulsing coils

the main ingredient in safety are resistors diodes tvs diodes and capacitors

also other coils on the same core can be useful directing the energy in other direction than the switch that will break if you gone wild

is really easy actually



i tried to read what he explained to you but for me is a bit confuse so i could not understand the schematic at all

i guess he was playing you or was confuse himself with the explanation


first thing to notice is that an scr is not going to open the ckt unless the voltage between anode and cathode is small enough to not allow a hold current..


using inductors wisely is possible to even switch dc with them but it takes some work to do it