Donaldwfc

Quote from: Donaldwfc on June 30, 2009, 01:09:42 am

hydrogen is non toxic to humans

Nontoxic,  but highly addictive!!!

love it, hahaha

hydrogen is non toxic to humans

yo steve, when you post a link the msg goes blank! same with pm's!

here is a doc that is worth read, for the sake of what they say about a few topics, from US DOT

Stan doesn't use a cathode then, neither emit electrons 

thank you, that does explain a lot, very good description. i have never heard of this anywhere else before so it would be interesting to test, i don't know if it would work... but testing will determine.

if you were to take a single loop of wire and cover it in soap to make a bubble-film-layer, then the magnetic flux through the loop would go through one layer of bubble-film, meaning 1 turn, if you had two loops, the bubble-film would make 2 layers, for 2 turns, and if you had 100 loops, the magnetic flux would travel through 100 layers of bubble film for 100 turns... this is the concept of how the flux works and how 'turns' work, if you were to imagine a surface like bubble-film connecting all the loops, each layer through the coil increases the effect by so much.

so if you were to wrap a coil around a playing card, or piece of cardboard from a cereal box, and then wrap that around the primary bobbin cavity in the VIC, then all your bubble-layers would be in the center of the coil where the cardboard is, like a tall thin toroid, and your turns would count as the wraps around this cardboard, and yours flux path would be inside the coil... like a tall thin toroid... so how would this interact with the other coils?

all i can say is it is very interesting, and i hope a few of you try it, i'll try it when i get to that stage

@Outlawstc
 

You hit it on the head....I agree with your analogies most completely. It's a pleasure to see others expanding their horizons. You have made the connection...you see how existence is a fractal....everything is smaller or larger versions of the same! Different yet the same....

I will PM you later with my take on the longitudinal primary (that's exactly what Meyer lays out....I don't think he ever realized that epoch of design)

We have to remember that Stan was evolving his system....he was trying to achieve perfection in amp restriction. By turning the primary 90 degrees the interaction of coils would be a complex spiral that is a product...or a tangent of the two coils EM fields.
I will talk with you more about it.

i am curious to hear more about the longitudinal primary, do you care to share a few more thoughts on it?

This is not shown in the common vic diagram but it may be shown in the controll and driver circuits patent. I am trying to think of an advantage to manipulating both sides of the primary compared to just one, the only thing I can think of so far is to use some feedback from the vic circuit in the circuit that connects to the tail end of the primary, but I dono if that makes sence 

voltage travels at the speed of sound LIGHT!
current (electron flow) travels at a fraction of a centimeter per second

the speed current travels depends on the material, in copper it travels extremely fast, in semiconductors / stainless steel / resistive wire it travels slower

the time between the application of voltage to the beginning of current flow is finite, and depends on the material, and according to some is called the "relaxation time"

rapid on-off switching of voltage application for a duration shorter than the "relaxation time" of the specific material being used will result in application of voltage without any current flow

thus is the basis of the following 3 devices, and most definitely hundreds more
1. The Tesla switch
2. The VIC = The electron bounce phenomenon
3. Tom Beardens Voltage Collector

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i sanded mine to 2000 grit, if i put polish on them they would be a mirror shine, but i don't want the polish to get in the way or contaminate it. the idea being that a smoother surface will distribute voltage evenly, but i haven't done any tests yet.

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yes, and for reasons not worth explaining to you

try and figure out that math lol

10 Hz + 1 Hz Gate = 5 Hz [all 50% duty)

it's not normal math, it's wave form math, if i wasn't drawing it i would have made a mistake (in fact i did before i drew it, see the scribble)

try this

i think you have to consider that we are always talking about unipolar pulses

we know the primary gets 50% duty cycle unipolar frequency with gates

oh yea, i know the vic takes square waves, i'm just learning random things about diodes, reifications, gating and such...


good explanation

wrong as in not possible?

i dono if it is useful, but i would venture to guess it is possible

i was thinking like this, maybe it wasn't explained very good

i mean take a small frequency and gate it to get a larger frequency, 120 to 500, as opposed to 500 to 120 which is easy to visualize

i suppose each pulse would have a different amplitude though, if the first frequency was a rounded waveform

wow you can gate a 120 Hz frequency and get 500 Hz out?

that is interesting and useful knowledge

good stuff

just had a thought

say you have 60 Hz AC, and you half wave rectify it, you go from ^v^v^v to ^ ^ ^, but you still have 60 Hz, and it's 60 Hz unipolar DC 50% duty cycle

say you full wave rectify the 60 Hz AC, and go from ^v^v^v to ^^^^^^, now you have 120 Hz unipolar DC 100% duty cycle

is this right?

is it relevant?