Donaldwfc

nothing to do with SM at all. You want to learn about him, read his patents and tech brief, watch his lectures, and think

He doesn't say what his OU concepts are.
Then he says "No more questions."

Not a useful answer.

Congrats Hydro!

Glad to hear you passed!

Now, I hope to see you playing around with the VIC and/or alternator again

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I kind of think he just took the pulsing circuit from the variable spacing plate cell and used it to pulse the alternator, that or a similar pulsing circuit, but this patent is clearly his early technology, 75-82, but he just filed the patent in 85 and received it in 89.

We know that the VIC and RIVC technology comes after this.

Maybe this control box has a pulsing circuit for the RVIC
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You know what, I was wrong!

Stan does pulse the rotor of the alternator, at least as shown in this patent: 4798661 -Gas Generator Voltage Control Circuit

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Like this

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and this

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I hope you don't mind the pencil crayons, I wanted to distinguish between the wires.

interesting,

what are your thoughts on the drive speed of the alternator, constant? or might a variable speed control for the drive motor be useful to adjust the output frequency of the alternator?

hmm, so something was running the car, what is the silver box? a solid state vic coil?

even if it was a solid state vic coil, wont the rvic act like a vic? it has all the same components

did you get amp restriction out of your vic? what kind of waveform and voltage/current? it must be similar to a vic coil...

Dudley, I got these pictures from Kevin, is this your alternator by any chance?

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Thank you for the diode type, it appears to be similar to the MUR1560 which i was thinking i might try.

how do you know that was set up as a deterrent ?

yea, understandable

i have really been thinking and hoping this alternator is going to provide some promising results, and i don't see why it wouldn't if it is actually the rotary "vic" and wound properly, we can clearly see it being used to run the dune buggy, and he also says he was going to get the RVIC ready for mass production

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it would be nice to know more about your experiments and winding styles, because if this thing really did work... then it's just us missing something... and if we figure it out, then it can do everything for us that it did for Stan.

One question, ok, two questions, that are on my mind for winding this, is what gage wire, and what kind of diodes to use, can you comment on that? I have no idea what the output would be, but i'm thinking 30 gage

Dudley, can I buy the circuit boards? If they didn't match your luck i'd love to try mine.

I agree it'll take some people longer to grasp things than others, but there's not much we can do about that, no matter how simple the explanations are, there are always fools blind to logic.

I don't know if you have read into Quantum Mechanics at all, but basically there are a handful of different theories in Physics, each works well in it's own domain but all of them break down in certain areas. Classical/Newtonian Physics is one theory that works well with everyday objects that we interact with, but it breaks down at the atomic level, Quantum Mechanics is another theory that works well with atomic and subatomic particles, and String Theory is another theory that has to do with subatomic vibrations and up to 10 or 11 dimensions.

In this video he's talking about using Bose-Einstein Condensates to perform Quantum mechanics experiments at a macroscopic scale. That means performing atomic sized experiments on life sized objects.

Bose-Einstein Condensates are Atoms cooled down to nearly Absolute Zero, this causes the Atoms to condense, or collapse, and then they are collectively responsive as if the collection of Atoms was a single Atom. They all vibrate and resonate together as one.

Because performing experiments on a single Atom is extremely difficult, this enables you to perform the same experiments, and get the same results, on something that is physically much larger... so you can see it with your own eyes, and this makes it useful.

How this relates to Stan is that he is creating the same effect as they get from a Bose-Einstein Condensate at room temperature, by using voltage to line up the water molecules and pulsing them to get them to all resonate at the same time.

In this video he also mentions an atomic laser, as being a great goal desired to be accomplished, something Stan did 20 years ago, without using absolute zero temperatures. Stan really is way ahead of everyone.

Donald says:
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/5280876
*~Tory ~* says:
this is cool!
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he seems to think an atomic laser is a big deal
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seems to
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Stan invented one 20 years ago
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hahahaha
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so in other words, this guy is a wee bit behind...
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a Hydrogen Laser, or EASER as he calls it
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cool
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oh wow
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that is a lot of info!
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i think he has another section on it too
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wow
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i've learned a lot about (hmm, a little) about quantum mechanics, string theory and other various physics topics today, but even more than i've learned, i've made connections to thing i've already known
*~Tory ~* says:
that is good, it helps when you can connect it all together
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for example, we have classical physics, which 'holds true' at a life size scale, but breaks down at the atomic scale
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there you need quantum mechanics
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right
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and in quantum mechanics, things like energy conservation and the laws of thermodynamics to not apply
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you can have particles in two places at once, you can have them travel back in time
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wow
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they can do back flips and stuff
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but what is the difference between the classical world and the quantum world?
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where some laws apply and some dont?
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it's the same nature out there
*~Tory ~* says:
hhmmmm
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so then as Michio Kaku just mentioned
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about Bose-Einstein Condensates
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yeah
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it's like having one large atom... so you can use quantum laws at a classical scale
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he talks about getting the atoms to vibrate in unison
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yeah
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the problem is, as far as he knows, you have to go as close as you can to Absolute zero
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but he's missing something
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can you guess what it is
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well, they haven't obtained absolute zero yet have they....?
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no, and you don't need to
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water is a dipole, put it between two voltage zones of opposite polarity, and all the molecules line up in accordance with opposite electrical attraction of charges
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pulse that voltage field and you have all the atoms vibrating in unison
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interesting
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based on what he said in that video
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that lets you play with the quantum rules at a classical scale

Is is cheaper than 304? Stan has the lab analysis report on 304 saying it'll last 10 000 years, so unless it is just as good as 304 AND cheaper, then we would be breaking the law of economics to bother with it

off topic question, but since you are fairly far along, i'll ask, have you played with adding non combustible gasses to modify the burn rate yet? that's something to be considered at some point in the process, i haven't heard any results from anyone of doing this

the problem with this is that the alternator frequency is dependent on speed, and your engine wont be spinning the alternator when you want to start your car, so you wont be able to run your wfc off it directly, but it looks like you have it all figured out, i hope you get some good results

I just made two tuning forks exactly the same size. Made of aluminum on the milling machine.

I don't know what frequency they are, but they are exactly the same so they resonate at the same frequency.

I made them after reading some of teslas stuff, I wanted to play around with them to learn about sound waves = longitudinal waves, and resonance, as they are perfectly "tuned" to each other, they will make each other resonate

After playing around for a bit, I have some observations that I find neat.

they are so precise you can blow on them and they will start to ring with a pure sound.
you can slide your thumb and index finger from the base, right off the ends of the tips and they will ring, or even sliding a single finger across it lightly will make it ring
you can strike one and bring it next to the other and the other will pick up the sound, stop the first from ringing and you can listen to the second ring independently
when doing the above, the intensity of the sound transfer is extremely efficient, pretty much just as loud as the first one
you can set one ringing and move it towards and away from your ear and hear the tone change, showing the doppler effect

now some connections to stan and the wfc

Say the outer tube is perfectly tuned to the inner tube, then each is like an individual tuning fork, hold one close to the other, or like tubes, one inside the other, and the longitudinal waves from one will set the other resonating at the same frequency, it is a direct transfer of vibrational energy from one to the other, air or water in between will be the medium that carries the vibrational energy across. These truly are wave guides, maybe it's not a sound-wave-guide... an electrical wave guide, but even sound is molecular vibrations as is electrical, so they have much in common, overlapping characteristics, interconnected. I think this tuning is significant.

Also, the smaller the tuning fork, the higher the [sound] frequency
the smaller the tubes, the higher the [electrical] frequency

the alternator makes a frequency in the neighborhood of 5000 Hz, and he has large large tubes, which are acoustically tuned to each other
I've read the injectors use a much higher frequency, which makes sense because they are much smaller, I just can't remember the frequency or where I read it, I think it was in the independent , but it is above the audio range.

also I believe you must steer away from rubber spacers, or anything that will dampen vibrations. if you hold a tuning fork against rubber, it stops!
notice the two 'prongs' on a tuning fork are rigidly connected with metal... stan's cell all the inner tubes are bolted to a soild stainless steel plate and mounted on a large bolt going through about 2 inches of solid acrylic, a very sturdy connection, and the outer tubes, each welded to a thin ss tab that would support vibration and then solidly bolted through 2 inches of acrylic. I don't believe stan used spacers at all, so if you can figure out a way to mount them solidly like a tuning fork, then I imagine this will have desired effects

I will post some pictures and stuff relating to tesla tomorrow. The reason why I made them was because of a picture of teslas wireless transmission system, a pair of two tesla coils tuned to each other, he shows an analogous system of two tuned tuning forks, where one sent in motion will make the other set in motion 'wirelessly' over a distance.

think about this, each choke is a tesla coil secondary, and each tube is the top load of the tesla coil, and they transmit longitudinal waves between eachother

and guess what

the second chokes that is shown with a wiper arm for tuning, this would be used when you can't tune your tubes, otherwise if your tubes are exactly tuned, your chokes can be exactly the same length

the water fuel cell is two tesla coils transmitting wireless energy across a water gap

there, i said it.

oh and more, tuning into the dielectric properties of water, dielectric is pretty much a mechanical property as well as a molecular property, just as sound/longitudinal waves are mechanical/molecular phenomenon