I didnt knew you tested before the paralleled transformers... about the burned transformer.. good point... sorry for your lost =d for me burning a transformer makes me very sad.. .it arched? or over load?
I thought by how gunther pointed out that you worked together or something...
this 50kv reading was taken with a 1000:1 probe from ground to cell... connected to a high quality multimeter.. this is how i measure before i got this knew oscilloscope and probe...
the precision was good enough but the dmm measures rms value not the peak... my one also has max and min and avarage... anyway now that i can see with the other probe i can have a confirmation on the osciloscope of all tests i done was at least correctly probed...
Due to your effort you have now a wonderfull project section Ed you will be the moderator so you get full control of the posts! Good luck man! Hope all goes nice to you here on ionizationx and that hopefully it help you share your ideas and get people to recognize your effort and dedication.. you will get freedom to do many threads with your theory in your section in an organized manner...
Stanley meyer said anyone would hurt his feelings if a better way could be found than his to do the things...
I just said on the post at the opensource energy something like suporting your partner gunther theory that maybe paralleling the coils could help get higher volts to the cell rather than adding all in series...
arent you working together?
doesnt it make any sense?
was it too much? to agree with something different than you said?
i didnt disagree with your theory nor said to you your stupid and should not tried it! never would!
Man sorry but yes i got 50kv but i never said it was across the cell...i aways clearly said it was between cell and gorund.. iand yes i had the right equipment to show me that... and i tell you this was the rms value not the peak!
i did it using the chokes on separate core... all chokes and secondary had 3000 turns or so
inside oil out gassed and water was 0ppm
if you dont believe is your all right
i just need to keep my work going, any help is wanted...
i didnt questioned your theory in any moment... aways suported you...
The first thing my dad asked to me when he saw i was so involved in this idea was: Are you prepared for it to not work? how will you feel if someone do it before you? are you ready for that?
Are you ready?
I will show to you my voltages... with scopeshots
as i said this was measured between ground and the cell...
the chokes were working in commom mode...
not ok according to my theory... or not with the pulsing circuit i have here....
is not hard to get voltage multiplication... i explained a milion times how the primary collapses...
the thing is if you dont restrict the amps correctly you will never get high voltage on the collapse since the amps going in the secondary will cancell the magnetic energy accumulated on the core...
now i have all the chokes on the same core one over the other...
it seems promising because of how it did it...
time will tell...
let me take the time to hooke up the older vics to the cell and i can show picture evidence and scope shots of the said voltages.... well i showed pictures showing fluorescent bulbs lighting 50cm away from the cell without any connection rather than my hand capacitance... this should be enough for you to see how much voltage was there...
this was only 20 or so
I really suport your ideas hope you do make it work my friend you are in a good way...
if i was you i would not loose time with old bad feelings and move on and go test!
I´m here doing some coiling too aways..
TGS lets create a new thread only for your theory? i will create it for you in my project section so we can condense your info in a more solid place so all can go and see... my project section is a very well visited place =)
i´m trying to reach a state of peace for you to be more confortable to work more inspired!
It will inspire me too sure just knowing you will be more re-energized in this 2016 to get this point!
Are you up to it?
i will do some posts on how i wind my coils and do the vaccuum process with oil maybe that helps some to think about new things they havent considered on the coil design...
Not sure if the you commented me adriantek i´m no judge i was just telling you how i feel about stan... TGS has his belief and i have mines... i´m just trying to make of this relationship the better it can be..
TGS i will do some scope shots to show you.. but i will ask one more time what is your noise level pulsing the differential probe both leads at 1kv amplitude and maybe at 10khz... just to know if how much noise i get is normal... i get more than 200v on the 2000x noise in that condition for me its not going to help anyway... i did a cage to shield and try get the right measurements.. how about you?
how you put 10kv there and get no interference?
TGS you talk about using this equipment but its error is essential to know what you did, in the scientific world if you give me a measurement and not the precision of your measurement it is totally not useable... To get a real measurements you must make tables and include the propagation of the errors and all...
so i ask once again what is your precision? at least noise level? so we know we can compare apples to apples like you say.
Hello guys i would just like to drop my two cents,
in my tests i can go up to 100v applied to the primary at 5 amps... the mean 500w and seriously i wish i could see others being able to do so... because it mean you break the technological step to be able to apply at least power to try to do something...
i have found how is hard to put power at the correct point... the pll helps with that but the point really is if you are not capable of circuit design after are 12v 3 amps you will start to get in trouble... so is sometimes very good to see others devices to understand how they have overcome the difficulties... i posted here my secret in getting power to it... who reads what i wrote may have noticed...
I really hates competition i believe in sharing my thoughts and ideas willing to have someone who understand it and can help develop them if possible... i´m not anyones competidor nor teacher... i´m here for learning the most i can and to change with you all I can.. Sorry if i sometimes won't post so detail info.. in my opinion we are not alone here and we must prevent this technology also to get the wrong hands... i think you would understand what i mean not them as you have the right mind spirit for understanding my ideas.. if i explained in a way more profound probably anyone could understand..
you guys helped me a lot in the sense that if there wasn't anyone to exchange any idea probably most of us would have stopped working on it by lack of motivation... For me is very motivation to see you here present working and discussing, even in a bad manner we are together.. we say family fights but after all we are all brothers!
Now take a look on a microwave oven and check what is a magnetron and what is a resonant cavity!
There is also this man in brasil who made it in 1967 a car that ran on water... i beilieve him stil but i tried to work with him... he have some patents but is really old.. i invested some time and money but we didnt made anything else than a eolic turbine that i helped him...
he was a priest and researcher... went to states at the university of newyork and got a lab to work with with any materials he wanted...(he had a contract with the bank of america to build some equipment to transform goldsulfate into gold metal) in 64 he came back to brazil and in 67 the news showed his water ...than dictatorship has made him afraid and he shut up... there is some evidence of it and old people still remember the priest with the water car..
he used platinum and palladium wire for the electrodes... maybe kilograms of it back than...
Ed suffered racial injurement attack before he got banned few months ago, thats what he is talking about the fact of being hebrew... in my country this is subject of jail... here in the forum we dont have anyway to punish anyone but i´m sure it wont get to this point again too. Ed was baned because he talked about religion sequetialy while he was adverted to stop as this is a forum for technology and stanley meyer tech discussion.
I would kindly point how much waste of time reading thu lots of attacks and non scientific posts...
Please stop wasting your times, our space and alls patience....
We are here not to prove we have anything... nor to prove anyone is wrong .... we are here to share ideas and discuss them... with so much intolerance there will be no room for seeing whats good in each one idea... it all become a big crap ...
i acted in bad way in the past by imaturity for example i would not understand how water could be polarized with no current and i spent lot of energy discussing and discrediting others that were pointing this out,.. you see how much waste of time is to discuss a theory you dont really know when you really dont know all the science in the world?
i really lose the will of coming over here to see this fights over the boards and seeing that someone is being ignored or discredited in principle...
Ed may have a way of saying like if he had all done and right its his way of speaking, just that... i know because i mistakenly talked like this in the past...
If i could spend an advice on this it would be
believe what you need to believe but walk with your foots on the ground steps come one after the other
There was a guy in the energetic forum who had some theories on that NH3 or something like it... i believe if plenty of nitrogen would be present during the polarization why not new strange molecules could be formed? Stan stated that he indeed used this same process to create his nobel magnetic gas... we only need to check which is easier to form so we can have an idea if is plausible because of competition inside... i mean if we are making a way to generate hydrogen and Stan states that there are other dissolved gas molecules being liberated too and that it acts as a gas modulator in the quenching ckt and reduce burn rate or flame speed.. water vapor would do it also though.. adding other chemicals to the water also could allow the presence of this nitrogen... maybe just nitric acid...
yes massive right there... thats what i mean... the fet cuts the current and the sity create an open ckt at aross the primary but holding the high voltage into the structure... not going to the fet,,, saving the fet in some way from the peak
check the patent of john quincy st clair... magnetic wormhole generator he have some interesting regards about lightning and very bizarre effects... hope you like it...
in your link there is a description of the kelving water droper like i mentioned...
its pretty amazing this text
thanks a lot
there you see that the clouds form a dipole but the rain leaks one of the charges of it so it stop screnning the potential of the left charge (also increasing the potential of the dipole)
so it works like the kelving droper but the charge remains in the water that still left to drop..
if that is so maybe the sun heat is only part of the energy source for clouds... the other its the positive polarity it causes to the atmosphere with its UV...