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Steve

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3 inches long cavity composed of 0,75 inches and 0,5 inches tubes having a gap of 0,0625 inches with water would give a capacitance of about 8nf having about 4000kohm resistance (pure water) would give from the formula 1/2pi*R*C = 5khz

I think that this is the right formula and not 1/RC


What do you think?

Well, what do we think?
Good question.
I think most of us here hope you find the missing link, ill guess   ;) ;) ;)

For your info, i made here a standalone 3.5 inch tubeset, with the known meyer parameters.
They are placed into an epoxy, so the tube stands right up on his own. The only place where water is, is between the 2 tubes.
So, yes. Another try here too.
I will measure capacitance and resistance soon with plain destilled water and let you know, Fabio.

Your calculations are fine, but i am not sure if they are on the right place here.

I do have an option on your voltage problems. If you want to use the 110V from your walloutlet, then you better add a capacitor inline. That cap will prevend getting too much current in your circuit.











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#119 ·

People,
 
Like you all, i had some bad days too. Working day and night at this water as fuel project costs much in money and mind. Doing everything like many claim and then come to conclusions that it doesnt work is frustrating. Doing 100 tests and just see 100 failures is not doing good as well.... >:(
 
But please keep respect for eachother. Thats really all i want here.
We all read Sebosfato's theory's. We all know by now that he try's to think outside the box.
Why? Because we tried everything thats inside the box. Try to see it as inspiration and not as BS. Who knows. He might tricker your mind and you might link something towards your own experiments.
 
Mike,
We would like so see more of your experiments, if possible. I seen you around on multiple forums for years. If you shared your knowledge here, we all could use that.
Like i do, for example. Willing to share it all. That way your goals can be reached quicker.
Alone it is not possible. I took some words out your post because i tought they where too much. I left the message in tact. (btw, i like whisky..)
 
To you all:
I know that many think that they are loonly testers and that too many are lurking.
I have that feeling a lot. I seen so many people reading this forum and just so little amount of info is coming back. Please share all your not working experiments with us. At least it can save others money. But you may share the working ones as well... ;) ;)
 
Steve
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#104 ·

Sounds all like an experiment in progres to me... ;)

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#69 ·

Sebos,
 
Here is the schematic that I used. Warp came up with it, some years ago.
As you can see, the drawing is part me and part Brian... :)
 
If you take a look, you see No external powersupply for the rotor.
We took the power for the rotor from the wfc and it worked fine!
All you have to do, is to jumpstart the wfc with a battery and then it runs all by himself.
 
Steve

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#67 ·

Dankie has become a guestmember from now on.
I mean there will be no posting by this person done on this forum, which he think is crap.

Steve
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This topic has been cleaned of all posts who didnt matter to the subject.
Keep it clean, people.
Please go on Fabio! Great topic  ;)
Thinking out of the box is what is needed!
Steve
 
 

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I believe that the concept is so simple that is very hard for me to express my plans.. . 

Basically you charge the water capacitor with the vic (basic) than as the tubes are connected in series. And than you discharge the tubes thru the secondary as from electron extraction circuit...  (this will make it become a self oscillation circuit because energy gained during coulomb force (voltage performing work) enter in the circuit thus you will increase the force, increase the gain and so on (is exponential) watch again new Zealand house meeting 1° and 2°... And  think about this ions and dissociation of water... (pay attention when he say that 100 amps * 100v = 10kw power...

I also try to understand it all, Fabio.
Your theory is that when you pulse a watercapacitor with a charge of electrons, the water will react by returning with more charge from water ions?
Why would that be? Is it no so that every action gives a similar reaction?
 
Ciao
Steve

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I am also very sure that nobody ever tried this... ;)
Are you gonna try this Fabio?
 
Steve
Its all scam.

700 watts on tubes with a 10v on all tubes in parallel do max 5 litres.....The parallel tubes can be compared with parallel resistors. The more you have, the lower the resistance, the more amps it pull....

steve

@Steve:
I can understand why you would say this, Steve.  There have been thousands upon thousands of similar scams pulled on unsuspecting everyday people and experimenters alike in the past.  They all sound too good to be true.
 
Even Stanley Meyer’s dune buggy seemed like a scam and was treated as one by the mainstream public throughout the world.  By the time many of us realized that Meyer was not a scammer, it was too late and the man was dead.  It’s very unfortunate that he died before we could learn in greater detail exactly what he had done.  I would even go so far as to call it a tragedy.  His technology could have saved so many lives that were wasted in the name of war over oil fields.  We may not have even had the BP disaster in the Gulf of Mexico if Stan had succeeded in making it to market with his devices. 

It’s easy for people to develop thick skin when it comes to new energy technology in light of past letdowns.  In the realm of psychology, this is known as “Pike Syndrome”.

Here is a video which will be able to visually explain just what this syndrome is for those who have never heard of it before:


I am requesting more information regarding this Future Energy Concepts technology in order to see if they will allow me to replicate their setup.  They claim in their video that the prototype version you see demonstrated in their video is going to be “shareware” (or freely copied sort of the way Pantone gives away a free GEET system plans so long as you don’t make more than one) and they are allowing the public to see their system in person on the 21st which is tomorrow. 

I refuse to call their technology a scam until they refuse my request for exact schematics and component details. 

Regards,
mina

Its strange that they show a tubesetup on that truck and what i see is a VERY slow production, if you look at the time it took to build up some pressure in the cell.
 
Now you asked them a price and deliverytime and they come up with PLATES?
 
I have dismanteld with Electrojolt (Claudio) many scammers in this field, last years, Mina.
Maybe it makes me more sceptical then others.
However, i do believe in this technology more then most of the people on this earth....
I have spent thousends of euro's / dollars sofar.
Made many engines running already.
I know what it takes to do such a thing.
Running that BIG engine on 2 litres of HHO cannot be done.
What i ll will try, maybe even today, is to hook up my cell to my injectionsystem of my renault clio 1.4ltr 4 cylinder engine.
I will even hook up my ionizer to the airintake, as i have done on my motorbike.
Then i wil lbuild up pressure.....and start the car.....
 
Believe me, it will not work.
 
 
Steve
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
The last part of the canadian patent is i think the most interesting one.....
Read the last line...
 
He says: you just hook up the exhaust to the intake and add some HHO. Thats it!
An engine is an airpump. Just try to cool the exhaust gas and make it run in circles..
 
Well, maybe soon i can try that on my generator.
 
Steve
OK I was told to use pex tubing , by an individual who claims to have a working prototype. I reread 2 of the patents and it jumped out at me non magnetic non conductive tubing. He also said the input is beyond pulsed? Just thought I would make this known for those trying to make an EPG. Rami.

PEX is cross-linked polyethylene. Through one of several processes, links between polyethylene molecules are formed to create bridges (thus the term "cross-linked). This resulting material is more durable under temperature extremes, chemical attack, and better resists creep deformation, making PEX an excellent material for hot water and other applications.
 
http://www.ppfahome.org/pex/faqpex.html
 
 
Rami,
 
I have tried with pulsed bubbles. Big bubbles, small bubbles, steady flow of HHO....
Nothing on my scope. The scope was set on it highest sensistive setting for your info.
I could see spikes of the lightswitches upstairs......But nothing from the HHO flow.
 
Question: Why dont you invite that person who claims to have replicated the EPG.
That would be great!
 
 
Steve
 
 
I think its a wonderful idea , if we can control the freq of this too it would be good for testing .

So we need fast collapse with big inductor to make this efficient , we need high voltage correct ?

1 thing I see hard , shape of cell .

Dankie,
Any sparking device should have some influence....
 
Like: http://wiki.4hv.org/index.php/Flyback
 
or
 
http://www.powerlabs.org/flybackdriver.htm
 
 
I suspect Daniel Dingle of doing a similar thing. There was found a second ignitioncoil in his setup.
 
We can also use your circuit and drive an ignitioncoil. Depending on the voltage applied to the coil, we have to adjust the sparkgap.
If we use sparkplugs as sparkgap, then we can have a very simple but working setup, is it.
 
Now: I NEED A MATERIAL THAT WE CAN USE A PLATE OR TUBE WHICH LET UV THRU FROM ABOUT 125NM.......
Anybody any ideas?
 
 
Steve
 
 
"Please come prove us wrong! New video being shot today should help ease your fears young man. Don't get me wrong: it took 6 months and thousands of dollars to get to this point. Thanks to Stan Myers's video on tube tuning and comments from a fellow youtuber about the lower? voltage happiness factoid, and a few tweaks we found on our own, we produce over 30.8 LPM @ 55amps with the new prototype @ 3.02 volts. So please come to Az for a test drive"----
DoomTracker   FutureEnergyConcepts

So who wants to go to Arizona?  If you're going to call the man a complete liar, at least take him up on his in person challange to prove him wrong.  You have a trip to Arizona to lose, but you save the world if it's true.  Time to put up or shut up.  His offer is on the table.  I don't see anyone from this site offering anything like this, ever.  The talking part is already through...

I would love to go to Arizona......... :) :) :)
Sadly enough no money to do so. Its like 2000 dollar from my country to fly to the USA and Arizona. :-X :-X :-X
 
Steve
Yea, i'd be interested in it too, i posted a video in another thread, where a guy was pulsing a coil next to 3 magnets, and when he pulsed the coil at 7.8 Hz the magnets went crazy, if you designed something around that idea, with some pickup coils to collect the energy when the magnets interact with the earths magnetic field.... i think it would be worth trying, could even give you COP > 1

Maybe for fun, i will order 2 inductors......
See if i can pickup some waves / voltage...


Hello guys


I think is possible to absorb this energy using a coil, but we need to know where the fields are going (direction)... We should also want to know why there are this fields and what create them to understand why is the frequency so low.


Well I think that the coil also must be Very big..


I think tesla builded the winderclift for extracting energy from the electrostatic field of the earth.


He might have created a resonant tank able to support millions of volts and huge amperage and it would just resonate by itself charging from the sky...


Than he created another tank tuned to receive the electro magnetic energy irradiated from his giant coil.


Do you remember thomas edison discovering the atmosphere electricity with his kite?

Hello Sebosfato,
 
It was not Edison who discovered electricity with a kite.  It was Benjamin Franklin.
 
Regards,
mina

 
 :D :D