I know why the 2 chokes are different resistances. It's too catch when resonance falls due to gas fluctuations. It's a resonance range creating an alternating resonant frequency pulse.
Many questions open. The most important one why he didnt do more with that finding....is it? If yu have such a nice finding, you do more with it, is it?
I think, like you, that it all might have done something. However, the question is what then. Russ, the whole coil stuff, is and stays a sort of transformer. No matter how you wind wire around a coil, it stays and actrs the same. When you add AC signals on top of a DC current, you super impose. You see a wobble on top of the DC line. Thats it. So, you pulse a coil/transformer, as S1 did, then you get a transformed current / voltage pulse out of the coil. Its that simple and no magic at all. Thats why i asked, if you have a sort of description on how they think the process steps have been. If you just simple try to blast a waterdrop with HV and enough current, the drop will explode. We have seen many videos on youtube doing that with help of sparkplugs and waterspray or waterdrops. MAybe, very maybe, it was for that engine just enough to run idle, badle, as i remember the video i seen. How to run a V8, is a mirical with that setup. If, and only if, he was able to create Hydrogen gas or an isotope of hydrogen gas, and then added waterdrops, and then a big powerfull spark, then maybe the results have been better, as because the water will expand to a gas state, which is around 900 times bigger in volume......Expansion! And thats what turns an engine around. So, if you could derive out all the info that you have there, similar steps as i just have given you, then it might be plausible. Anything else does not. Just waterdrops do not work. Just HHO does works badly, as it is to quick in burning. Waterdrops and H togehter might do the trick.
THose are my 2 cents, based on years of testing engines on water.
Do the reading on straight unpulsed DC. This is how you impedance match the cell to the coils. You need to find the impedance match of the water with the coils with the maximum voltage you will apply to the primary of your transformer.
I have already done it. This will be how to get the maximum power transfer to your cell when then placing it on the Vic.
Can you tell us what the efficiency was that you achieved?
Can you try to explain in steps how all this should be able to work? Most of us tried the waterdrops and sparkplug setup. What s different with this one?
This was a circuit from 2008 on a mower engine that purposely allowed crossover leakage induction volts from a 5 turn wire onto an adjacent 7 turn wire, WITHOUT core, so as the in series volts is increased from 12 to over 100 volts. Was this brilliant, or just a cheap method of increasing a lower voltage. See photo of S1R9A9M9 triple wires assembly electromagnet on internet images. The LOWER only section of 13 turns had steel core. This was in reference to HIS (2) YouTube videos that can still be seen. . (On old, worn out ignition cables, they spark across in the dark at night when you lift the hood on bad ignition cables.) He put the inserted section with spark plug cable to use for his project in 2008. Is this type called capacitive voltage induction? My first test on this showed a neon bulb glowing with at least 90v, FROM ONLY THE 7 TURNS WIRING, not electrically connected to 5 turns.
The next step is to add accessory spark gap, which does not affect spark plug firing. As the input Ignition coil is then forced to INCREASE to compensate, the leakage crossover volts would also go higher. ( I believe NOW THIS IS THE SECRET how Nathren and the 2 technicians successfully ran the Briggs engine on hydrogen generated in combustion chamber electrolysis and fired for piston force. If this is so, then all their other car conversions done earlier had made use of stated 60 turns over EXISTING spark plug cables!! E higher volts needed = 6–7 amps X Resistance of tiny salt water cell at plug tips.- about 23 ohms. Briggs had 5 turns bare #12 wrapped with 7 turns insulated, and then for the other autos,- thick insulated ignition cable wrapped with 60 turns insulated #14 gauge wire coil! What do you think?
What i think in such a case, is the question on how in earth did he thought on this setup? Was he getting messages from outer space?
More data for those who may be following this S1R9A9M9 project.- I just mounted a small Briggs engine to test compression "USES". Tests done way earlier by another researcher (on Internet), found out that a capacitor charged to 200v and 500uf and fired into salt water at spark plug would move lawnmower engine piston one revolution. The high volts didn't seem to matter to him, though. Notes gathered from the S1R website indicated that a crossover leakage inductance voltage , possibly capacitance effect, did transfer => 90 volts, as indicated by glowing neon bub. Other parts were indicated as used in the 2 SUCCESSFUL 2008 Youtube videos, but not told. I assumed it was diodes and an accessory spark gap. NOW I see a good reason for it. Spark gaps in air are as 3Kv /mm gap. 2mm plug in air is about 6Kv. Under engine compression that would be about 6 X 5 as ratio of a Briggs engine compression is 5.8 :1. Now, if an in line series gap is ADDED , the spark plug stays at the same voltage. (Plugs only fire at the least volts needed) The sum of 2 gap voltages equals the beginning ignition coil output. If the total is INCREASED, then the crossover volts (of the S1R coils assembly) increases past 90volts, so as being in series with the amps current line through the spark plug also. 100-200volts can be realized with the low volts included. Nathren and other 2 shop technicians had said several times, about 100v and 6-10 amps is needed for the electrical circuit for creating sufficient hydrogen gas fuel from spark plug electrolysis. Salt water cell at plug TIPS is about 22 ohms resistance - not zero ohms, and requires higher volts than 12-18vDC to push 6 amps through the tiny electrodes. E / I = R, I needed X R cell = required voltage. E total high volts = E1 plus E2 spark gaps.
Other statements regarding the earlier car engine water conversions in Georgia had told of a special test done with 60 TURNS insulated wire over a spark plug wire and getting crossover volts. This technique may have been used on all those car engines, along with EGR. (They had also talked about interference reactance ohms from crossover leakage as a connected circuit of 12v and 20 amps, through amp gauge being reduced to 12 amps flow through load resistor when plug was fired.)! What do you think now? (Closing in on The 2008 Georgia Briggs 18HP engine that ran on water.)
You used salt water? Thats corrosive, is it? I am impressed that you got the engine moving!!! Keep on doing the good work!
I also tried to use AI for transcripting the famous interview video:
hello and welcome to the Kentucky water field museum I'm James Roby curator of the museum in 1996 an interview was conducted with Herman pleasant Anderson the water fuel inventor who converted this 1971 ford ltd to run on water in the early 1980s dr. cliff Ricketts professor of agriculture at middle tennessee state university is demand conducting the interview along with his associates dr. rickets and some of his students have been running cars on hydrogen from water for over 15 years using solar electric panels to provide the electricity to perform the electrolysis on the water it is then stored in tanks and use of the vehicle the video is a very poor quality but the information container is priceless and I hope you enjoy and tell us what to sound a little round box that generator over there against playing it to us yeah well I would be fine if you ever wouldn't get you on tango yeah yeah see but see I've got so big Captain the capital now no I've got that plaintiff actually inside of it it's assault on Kofi inside of both anode and the cathode see I do that for reasons because i'm getting my magnetics right to sleep it's very important you gonna let this targeted biasing that you do that of course you got to have you at you yes the cathode and anode separated just the right place here because you don't and making it by a subway and without a divider in down in literacy you can use at the bottom down in there you gotta use it up for what you got a short and Fox amateur unity and it took hold you create a magnetic storm is here and it won't do anything you're just blowing on lock up like at all ography see if you could see them that I had I'll have generators that I could see em much truth in decide they see exactly what it was doing tree and I could get my box rather be with your wife see you won't because you your charges these are those though you see with this heart of all to see and you charge it limit now is the high voltage it inside your generator like medically on the passion of just like first entry in making this guilty man right you want it you might know success what I own you can told you you got it and you got a negative electrode us and all ya know that's a positive light 06 well what are you starting this hydrogen over on your own sake and the oxygen and hydrogen that's where you split Utley and now then you get your hydrogen ions go through you through you electrolytic only like right now I would / through this to the cathode side see well in order to collapse into hood piously and you got it you gotta like this on these a scaffold and an animal it's be local you gotta try them you know like a magnet see that and then you passed it gives me to use my amex then you passed at home this is just like a magnet now propose it you plastic holes not sleep and your hydrogen's are as forested and this home on you nanosci dosbox me well what does fast have been forced to do it courses lost it and that pushes this hydrogen power really policy brother passed through this look up and gets it over there Honda and then they all the cathode side just made it and that just pulled us these hydrogen ions in the disposal into this to the capital C and there is where you can watch we hardly see their intolerance listed over and like a molecule abaya ch2 see the catalog wat run on your capital to make two for yardage interesting but in the process going home from the anode to the cathode see you come and move your right your license process fancy you're changing it is hydrogen the ha ha i see you govern the atomic weight and eww the Energon you don't in your power you're doubling everything she and a UW in your mouth desk you see critical and that's what gives you fall yeah yeah and it's all gone just instantly like that autumn i and and sick and what when they gets over on the castle on the side it's already introductory ok you go along with Denise a hydrogen comes out here in there yo and this just turns it it turns it in this video how did you enter a hydrogen isotopes and just another form of hydrogen I like Heather warn you know how you make everyone you know for the new Covanta that's what you're doing out here you like it anymore you feel but you got years ago we've got use an slicing shielding will see and what way you got these two coal I got now record they go on the right corner and they hook them together the 35 out what to use in Royse car and I got two of them that gave me seven if I lost to change this hydrogen and future they standing wave frequency right in between of a microwave on a hard and a hard actually which is called a soft x-rays to get it in luck now if you have more more grown up like that the UV you'd be changing more and the hard actually and you don't want to do that see it's a very important to get that seventh all in motion what are you calling salt x-ray and is tony la fréquence in between microwaves and hard actually dr. 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about a person no no how she wouldn't be as healthy as you are all the time he's been around them [Music] and you do anything inside to the engine it's all go to console you go so this is really long gone it's kinda fun easy yes the time and you use a basic propane corporation system gases explained to me that process right there again what are you writing or estrogen and ready elicits is ok you know it worked all from the hobbit assistance ok send it down Bonz on 12 ok will do it and you can you change you that's right direction it's a white point for a vacancy in using electron into a standing wave it's like what you use to get cold fusion assigning way there they just continue enforcing if you just use the oscillation that feels like and the frequencies of life of sound in what is waitresses will continue to operate it's just you know we're trusting she's YT old boy is coming through a lead pestle what will in that letter trust them you know we set off a wave length of the standing 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lot is their home rates on them oh yeah and it gets up in that oh oh you are wrong everything it's like warrants sugar and gas back take a five no fun oh you got on going on but anything else you want else touches in here we're ever loved in it that's what the Schalke inherited the key up you know get on a water bubble yeah we get you through it in right and his whole heart now that night sweet ladies we headin this way maybe Lincoln all when you just have to almost build another and you got all kind of phone the blood answer later known in there you guys check that one out in the building only 100 rebuild them this is an experimental and tell for just one way to put on the map I didn't intend to keep driving all I want to do it just approval and I'll kept on getting the ball girl how awful I felt autism I'm not morning it was doing good boy started off all right alderman no those are going on him years old Herman says in the interview that you gave the high voltage part of his system to a doll Brisby we caught up with Donald earlier this year and videotaped interview with him about the application of the high voltage device to his chamber which is different from Herman's but the high voltage application is similar hope you enjoy so how did your high voltage get into your electrodes in I had an extension why that ran around the whole unit to give it to radiation but the lie that ran through that went round and round the whole unit there you won't see it there because it ran around the unit in other words did it go just around this drum here or what yeah replica around the job signika well the same wire that came off of the co well I just put an extension on it and ran around there so that radiation would go right through the year and then how often was the coil fired what I had was an extra distributor I had an extra distributor that had bukola that furnished the policy this had been 20 years ago sir yeah it furnishes the extra current that I put on the on the anode over here who they note meaning positive or negative it was positive and every time that that thing turned over it kicked eight pulses in there and you had the same time had motor running fast enough that you were getting the continuous pulse going to the positive wire going into the plaza royal now was this positive we're also hooked up to the battery positive or was it just hooked up to that to that distributor well it's all the same because the coal ran to the distributor the secondary distributor and then Trent to that a node there and so what you had was the regular 12-volt battery over here plus the 70,000 so you did have the 12 volts also here yeah okay and there was no feedback of that 70,000 volts going to head out I had a dialed in there I say the typical going back yes that sent me thousand volts ran not directly to this but it ran through a spark I had a spark that means that the 12-volt without lamps on the battery can't go back up to spark but the high voltage can go me on the low okay and so what I did I got high amperage and high voltage because i use the spark so you had a jump I headed Joan so that you couldn't go backwards on its or you wouldn't go backwards that's right and you didn't have it do that inside the chamber but outside the child prior to connecting this and that gave you gas production sufficient to idle this truck oh sure so you were running that extra distributor using a fan motor on the preview it yeah same same thing is you see family losing did you have to change the RPMs of it work just it really didn't matter it wasn't that exactly all I won't do is post the current then all the eight wires fit into the same Junction on the thing which gives you a pulse a DC pulse eight times whatever thou RPM is and hey it works fine Willard Elliot is a retired electronics engineer from Canada who recently paid a visit to the museum and was willing to offer his comments on the high voltage part Herman system nope Chris be constructed this to run his Ford truck odd electrolyzed water this is what's called a flip-flop it has three two and thirty 55 transistors as a diode and it has three capacitors and three resistors and as we have it analyzed the circuit we aren't sure exactly what it is because of the touchy order to adjust the frequency of the flip-flop now this year that drives this this is a very large heavy current silicon controlled rectifier and it switches on and off I'm having current to the electrolyzer from the battery and by using these two years together you can't create an odd type in an off time of the current in the electrolyzer and it's my understanding that he uses a seventy thousand volt spark coil which is Raptor of the electrolyzer and it is connected in such a way that it operates of the water with this seller controlled rectifier opens so you can high voltage low volt I voltage low voltage alternating by this flip-flop and that's apparently gave him enough gas to idle his car and the gas was completely generated by the alternator on his car it did not however have enough power to move the car it was just idling and just barely able to write if you open the butterfly valve to trade speed it up it would stall so that's what this unit is and it could be replaced now with what components although Adaeze you would use a power mosfet vistas of this tile and this circuit D here could be done with a 555 timer chip it suitable driving transistors should drive a MOSFET so it is not as hard to do today as it was in nineteen eighty when Donald got this but what about the air gap that he used well the air gap was the where they sparked the the 70,000 volts park wit to the water when this was turned off so the 70,000 volts park went through an air gap to the two terminals on the electrolyzer it was also wrapped around the electrolyzer so you got both magnetic and plasma effect from that that arc of the spark so he was passing the arc through his chamber the ark was not in the chamber was external to the chamber but its effect was going into chamber no danger of exploding that hydrogen gas in the chamber by that but the fact it's outside it would not contact any of the gas well if you're a discharge inside your electrolyzer it would be destroyed by the explosion so the only energy inside the chamber was 12 volts from the alternator yes provided by this diode and when the diet wasn't closed the voltage from the spark plug of that arc also flowed through the electrolyzer well the voltage would probably still be 12 volts but it's a fill in the period when this flip-flop was off and the there would be sub spike put on the water by the fact that the spark flashed through the gap that was external and it would the plasma there would create some effect on the water itself and so the purpose of the gap it's just through all the spark plug coil to work because if you don't have a gap you're sure to get up and you will get any current or any spark you have to have adequate the spark area similar to you having a spark plug so you could be achieving the radiolysis that herman aniston speaks out by using this kind of discharge of what he calls a corona discharge I guess some people would call that radiologist it's really just a spark between two contexts an open air spark except that you're wrapping the cylinder the chamber electrolyte a bar plug wires wrapped around the chamber so the courage of that spark also produces a magnetic field in the fluid but simply having a long spark plug wire wrapped around the chamber would cause the causes of magnetic effect so you basically want to wrap a spark plug wire around a chamber and terminate it with a spark plug baby just taped or strap I don't say you want to do that but that's what Donald Brisby did and it appeared to work so the end of the line is the spark plug and in between the spark plug on the coil you wrap it around the chambers that the idea we hope you enjoyed this investigative effort to find out exactly how Herman's car operated and we hope that it inspires others to make similar progress they turned water into fuel
I got some time today to rethink and re investigate the Anderson system. Specially the radiolysis part, or as most of you know, the high voltage unit. The goal of the two ignition coils are to create 70kV, with a spark. This would creat soft xrays, accoordingly to Herman himself. Of course, i started to run the most stupid setups and almost blew myself to heaven, as sparks should NEVER penetrade in a HHO cell. As i have stated already many times, it is NOT about producing lots liters gas, but it is about the type of gas. Read: isotopes
I came after again listening to the famous interview video and after researching generic info on soft xrays to the next conclusions: The Anode is the most important part of Herman. This because he says that he is charging it up during the process. Thats where the H is splitted from the H2O molecule. Thats where the Deuterium is created. And thats where the isotope is catapulted to the Kathode. The Anode should also creating a magnetic field, as current is flowing thru it. Ill guess that a pulsing magnetic field is more what we are looking for, as static magnetic fields didnt do much in my tests, compared to pulsed ones.
So, now, the magical question: What did Herman ment with charging up the anode? For me it is clear that he ment the radiolysis proces, the soft xrays. They should charge the anode. Or....... The soft xrays should charge the fresh splitted H atoms..... That makes sense as: X-rays and gamma rays are able to pass through metals because of their high energy and short wavelengths. When these high-energy photons encounter a metal, they are able to penetrate the spaces between the atoms and interact very little with the electrons in the metal. This allows them to pass through the metal with minimal absorption or scattering. However, the ability of X-rays and gamma rays to pass through metals can be used for medical imaging, industrial testing, and other applications.
So....lets wrap corona wire on the outside of the Anode. Let the 70kV spark on the outside of the anode. BUT...do not ever spark against the anode metal!!!!!!! BOOM.....Not good.
Just wanted to share my thoughts here. Hope soon the be able to run tests again :-)