Hydrocars

I think I can help with this a little bit... First, I would like to ask a question. How do you step charge a capacitor? For example, I have a 400V capacitor and a 12V power source AC or DC. How can I charge the capacitor to the 400V with only a 12V source?

Give up? A 'Charge Pump"!  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charge_pump

A charge pump is what Stan used with his VIC's. It works much better with the chokes than without. A super easy experiment with a battery, diode, and high voltage capacitor can show this step charge effect using a simple multimeter to measure. You will see the voltage rise with each pulse of power to the cap through a diode. Or, use some chokes and see the same effect. It's all in the capacitance...

I would like to add a comment here for you, Since I have a few min's to spare this moment. I know some may get tired of hearing it but I'll go on with it anyways, So if this post offends anyone just ignore it, For the others read on.

1. Atom
2. Fluorescent lamp
3. Lasers
4. Lifters, (UFO)
5. Static (Charged electrons/Protons.)
6. Magnetics
7. Under some circumstances A vacuum, Found in magnetrons.

As you can see, All these atoms are alike meaning they can take on a charge, When these atoms take on a charge you may also notice they (Do things.) For example.

1. Lasers emit photons in the form of light (that is visible to us.) Some Performance of certan atoms (Can't Be seen.)
2. The Fluorescent lamp emits Light from its charged, (Ionized)
3. Lifters, These affected atoms can be seen moving wire and aluminum upward, These atoms creates an upward lift, (work)
4. Static, electrons gain a charge, The work created can make (electricity) as work. For example, Buff the scratches out of a scratched CD with a WOOL buff wheel to feel its (Nasty Jolt.) Gase at the electricity weaving the Cd while buffing.
5. Magnetics, however created can (Drive the atoms behavior.) Like the Magnetron guides the electrons to the food, Rather than out the other end.
6. Ionized atoms in the vacuum of a magnetron can Cook food, Heating of the water molecule. (Heat Work.)

As you can see, Voltage across an atom has many effects,, Some effects can be seen, Some can not,, Only examined, Like looking at the lifters effect.


Voltage Potential across the water molecule has been proved to cook food, The magnetron puts Alternating voltage fields across the water, (Its Effect can be only noticed) because it cooks the food, The water Cooks the food as the water gets hot.

Atoms can do many things depending on how the atom is charged, OR, If you piss the atom off by swinging it back and forth to many times it becomes heated, Allthough the (Charge) from the magnetron would not be of any good without the (Magnets) directing the field to the inside of the microwave other than the outside.


A Mot, Microwave oven transformer operates at 60 hertz, Not Microwaves. The 60 hertz is taken from the wall outlet and converted into a much higher frequency. The secondary winding of the MOT is made to ((((((((Resonate)))))))) with the (Magnetron) threw the (Chokes) which create an alternation of electron flow, A back and forth motion that heats the atoms. If the back and forth motion is removed,,, and a Direct motion is sustained the atoms would behave differently, They would no longer heat due to friction they would ( separate .)

The goal of the mater is not consuming any current flow threw the water itself, It is applying a voltage Field across the water, at the proper freq. For this, SS Plates is not really needed to show the effect. Electrons shouldn't be passed threw the water, They shouldn't be passed at all. The amp consuming component in the system shall be

For Example;

1. Amp meter to the microwave MOT transformer to the wall outlet, Measure current flow there.
++ Do Not measure Current flow from the (Magnetron) to the water, Theres no where to clamp a meter you see?

2. Amp meter to Primary of Meyer VIC. You can't place an amp meter (TO THE TERMINAL CONNECTED TO THE FUEL CELL.) -------- (THERE IS NO CURRENT FLOW) There is (NOT suppost to be Current Flow.)

There shall be NO electrons flowing threw the fuel cell terminal, That terminals main function is to (deliver) a voltage (Potential.) Once you Gain a voltage Potential,, (Dynoden) it must keep getting (Bigger,) To the point the water, (Pulls apart.)

Opposites attract, Alike repel. Charge a foil view its behavior.

To make Potential, Possible... A choke of the right core must be used. If the water isn't comming apart perhaps the voltage still isn't high enough,, (Cold Process) that isn't amp dependent.

Perhaps, The Charge is getting away from the water, Assuming the magnetron had no magnetic Guides. Perhaps its an option to use a magnet in a fuel cell to help direct the potential.

Once the Molecule becomes charged,, (You can see (Work) in the form of bubbles) Unlike the laser where you see it in the form of light.

It would be very difficult to design a microwave oven to pull water apart, (Rather than Alternating) the molecule causing heat due to (Friction.) Eliminate the alternation and you eliminate heat. Once you do this,, (Frequency of choke) doesn't seem to matter, But as we all know..

Opposites attract and alikes repel. We clearly have a problem... This is where the (frequency comes in) of DC pulses rather than Alternating pulses.

The Greater charge of the molecule,, (The stronger its bond.) So why Charge the water molecule,,, Perhaps at a certain (Time) there is a Brief Polarity change of the vic? (Burst Train) small but effective.


If you had 1 water molecule, and it was normal charge was 10 volts just sitting there... And you some way charged it with a DC polarity of 100000k volts, (Opposites attract.) The bond would be greater.

What could you do to cause the bond to,,, explode away? How could you tell the (Positive charged) Hydrogen atom to Repel the (Negative Charged) Oxygen atom? (Opposites)  Think!

( ) Drop the hammer!

How many people has stored a fine coil, A TV coil for example on a shelf?

How man people has went to pick the coil up when stored on the shelf and got an alternating Jolt. Are you aware that Such coils can self charge on the shelf and start to resonate with the ambient air becomming a capacitor?

It does not feel to pretty when one bites you right off the shelf, Its abnormal but it does happen, I even had it happen to me more than once.

The point is, coils resonates with no circuit surrounding them, And yet the right coil has not been placed in the right circuit, Not to mention it has been proved that voltage can rise over water while current flow is not allowed, We have found the trick of limiting current to 0 to be in the Core.

I am Slick; There is this deal, An Agreement to see the car, You are trusted to Photo certain areas of the car and keep the photos to yourself. If it is found that photos, or information is free sourced Nobody will have rights to see the car again.

When the owner finds out that a trusted person is revealing things on the interent, Nobody will be allowed to view the car. It's a trust issue. The owners don't really get on the internet, However if the owner knew the photos was getting shared nobody would be allowed to view it again. The owner does not know anything about technology they are just lucky to have the car and they think it is worth millions, Greed. These people think they have For example, a 78 Convertable King Cobra, And they want the Full amount for the car, Millions. The car will Rot until they get what they want, Or they realize its not worth what they think it is. The Jacket has nothing to do with the car at all, Thats silly.

To Further Fulfill you, The guy's that visited the car didn't really learn anything of value, And had little time to photo or document anything well. Nothing was gained but a few photos that really doesn't help anything at all.

So the guy's visiting the car, They don't know anything more that what you or I know. Its a real buggy that does nothing, Where visiting it gives nothing. It has Fraud written all over it. Nobody can get the car running. There is nothing more to learn, If you had the car in your drive way, you would gain nothing. If there is a secret, having the car will not reveal it.

I will help you get a working prototype.

Remove the shunt diode and install secondary. Any 24 volt coil will work iorn core is okay. Will not work without proper DC offset. Resonance occurs only when proper cemetery is in respect to DC offset. However gas perduction is very promising without resonance 600 Hertz to 8000 Hertz and can be seen as high as 15k Hertz.

oh I remember now the diode Goes between the secondary coil and choke it does not go after the choke it will not work if you put it after the check has to be before the choke. Think hard about that!

Yes but the show. Is replaced with a secondary coil of a transformer. At resonance voltage potential is very great although there still needs to be a. After the choke on one side to ensure purity of DC. as I recall now that I do think about it I remember stay enjoying a. Under a diet now that I think about that I can understand why. I think I can make that part better or even figure out what was missing thank you for your post.

This is ionization X and this question should have been answered, there should be solid answers here. I will address this post Tonite!

Why not just super heat the water under a pressure above the xombustion engine, and release the fuel in the combustion chamber so it can convert instantly from a liquid to it's gas form?

Quote from: Hydrocars on August 09, 2012, 22:10:12 pm

Imagine a cup full of gas taking you 1000 miles. Same post can be found http://open-source-energy.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=669 and I posted our link there as well.

This is what the technology had to offer, this is what its about! The videos arent fake they just dont show everything. Now look in the right places and face the facts, Start piecing it together and get it finished! From here you'll have to use your mind to draw the schematics, its not on paper but there are paper trails, small ones. There is a paper trail in the video as well. Anyone with a mechanical mind can take this information and put it to work. Its similar to a geet but the geet doesn't quite cut it.

A new synthetic fuel is born!

Hi Brian,

Thanks for the document. Appreciate your effort on that.
I can remember us trying to follow the HHO tube into the bug.
So, you think he used a petrol filled bubler?
Meaning, he used petrol vapour with HHO?
Sure it will save a lot of petrol and indead you will get carbons in the combustion cycle.
I think it might be very plausible.
CAn you pinpoint the time for me in the video on where you seen that bubler?

Steve

No I dont "Think" he used the petrol bubbler.  ("I know he did.") The technology could only be used on pure water when he stored the hydrogen, gas on demand used the bubbler. Stan told you to introduce Ambient air and exhaust gases into the generator, I have that in my pdf as well. You need to use an air pump at a regulated flow depending on the production. Ambient air and CO2 makes no difference, They both support full combustion while using nothing causes incomplete combustion of the hydroxy flame which is why the flame is orange in color. Lye further causes incomplete combustion but by adding ambient air it can be tuned to a more complete combustion to the point it can be so clean the flame can go out.

We already know that we can (Create) Lye using electrolysis without having to actually add it into the water. We also have chlorine to boot. Proof of chlorine can be seen by using a DIE in the water, then using a Lye to revive it. Too much to point my finger at here.

Much has been overlooked and hidden away, but it cant be hid forever!!!

I'm sure stans goal was 100% water, But what we witnessed in that one video where the tank was in the grass, He was borrowing the carbon atom from the (Golf ball sized Anti Splash Resovor.)

Gases contain Carbon, They're hydrocarbon gases and stans bug was running on a hydrocarbon gas mix he called a (Synthetic fuel.) Synthetic means man made and those exact words are also found in one of stans patent, I think the patent can be found in my last pdf posted on the 3 phase rotoray conversion process where he used 3 phase electrical current onboard the bug. Too bad he did not have a Digital Power inverter back then ehh,,, would've saved him lots of time. It doesn't matter how its produced as long as you mix it properly.

It will run on water, not 100% water but damn close! Stan did have it run 100% on water but, he could not go very far! The rest is hogwash.

Stan was ask about it in one of his lectures on one of those cd's you sent at the end of the speach, there where a class full of audience, I dont recall which one. Also, it is seen but I cant put my finger on it. I dont thing you can see it in that particular video. It may have been a newspaper article, Im not certain. I know if you did you will find it.

That was extracted from that video yes. When you do so it runs, The goal was to use water instead of petrol, the secret was closely guarded and shunted to a stand still with you know what! Stans goal was to reduce petrol consumption by over 75% using this system.

The element Hydrogen is used in rockets, we are after a synthetic fuel that contains Hydrocarbons which is what the synthetic fuel produces.

You need more than the hydrogen element, you need carbon as well and as I said in the PDF, Carbon Reactors can last for very long times, 3+ years in some cases. Stan was using petrol to produce a synthetic gas, I am unsure of the gas because I'm unsure how many carbon atoms bonds with the hydrogen when the Hydroxy gas is passed threw the Carbonated reactor.

Sorry If I popped anyones bubble here, But you'll get over it and get with it. Did you miss the parts where you can add a steady flow of air to the generators to increase gas output?

The car was running off of a ("Hydrocarbon") gas, but what kind of hydrocarbon gas is the question.



To everyone; Please think before you bash, I will not post nothing else if that happens. 

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx9fxChPEH8[/youtube]

Imagine a cup full of gas taking you 1000 miles. Same post can be found http://open-source-energy.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=669 and I posted our link there as well.

This is what the technology had to offer, this is what its about! The videos arent fake they just dont show everything. Now look in the right places and face the facts, Start piecing it together and get it finished! From here you'll have to use your mind to draw the schematics, its not on paper but there are paper trails, small ones. There is a paper trail in the video as well. Anyone with a mechanical mind can take this information and put it to work. Its similar to a geet but the geet doesn't quite cut it.

A new synthetic fuel is born!

No comments?

(OH I KNOW THAT)

And the carbon element reveals itself!>

It helps, it isn't pure but its 90% the container is the size of a golf ball.

Stevie, we charged the roter for a brief second, I used it without a fuel cell many times on other things. But the diodes I had is why I got a different result, I'm just now realizing that! Also, these diodes, OMG, I'll update this later 🤔

Whoever was pushing for me to pass that test, preying or whatever,,, THANK YOU.

I Passed...

Special Thanks Goes to whoever you are.

I used a Fluorescent light bar and connected it across my cell and it was bright on both ends, dark in the middle, changing brightness if you touch it. When you touch in the middle the whole bar lights up, the plus side and minus side also get very bright when you touch there. Like your movie.

I measured 12Volts input and 850Volts output (only when using biff chokes all on one core) on my scope with the probe close against the outside glass of the water cell! 
Could not connect it directly due to a maximum on my scope and probe   
No gas production unless you connect a ground and current is measured.

Used both a tube cell and adjustable plate cell with no effect on gas production or voltage, +/- 1 Amp going into the vic, close to or no mAmps output behind the chokes going through the cell. (used a analog 0 - 500mA meter)

Currently still need to machine the delrin and a tube with rod as wfc to check if leakage has any effect on voltage and production.

I have a couple of movies made but currently don't have access to them.

You have gained (Voltage Potential) across the water molecule. ((("""I'm Proud of you"""))) Now make the bulb brighter, Then go study what the potential is doing to the water molecule.

Imagine, HH0.
            Voltage                Molecule                                   Voltage
------ (-) Force     <-------0---Bond---HH--------> Force    (+)++++++++
                                OPPOSITES ATTRACT
                                      Alike Repels

(((((((DOES THE ABOVE SEEM A BIT CONFISING)))))))))) Are you (Charging the molecule or Not???) Look at it until its no longer confusing.

Imagine the (Molecule) introduced to 2 voltage fields. Imagine the (Protons) going one way and the (electrons) the other. This is what stan means by (Plucking) off the electrons. When the electrons Get plucked off the Molecule becomes (Positively charged) due to the missing electrons, Now the molecule is out of balance.

When you apply a high potential across the molecule, it is possible to pluck off the electrons, (1 at a time.)

Then again, Looking from another angle. If you give the molecule a (Charge) of potential, would that molecule not have a greater bond? (Harder to pull apart.)

You have (voltage Potential) across your water molecule, (You don't see much action.) Stan isn't going to tell you everything, Go (Find) a way to understand what it is you are doing to the molecule, You know you have a form of voltage across the water because of your lamp, this is good. But, you should Not have to touch your lamp for it to light when in parallel. The lamp also pulls the voltage down,,, It is only to prove to you potential is there, When you (Believe) you have potential there, (Remove the bulb and get to work.)

You are taking voltage potential and tampering with a water molecule on the (Atomic Level.) You are just now realizing, There are things you do not understand. Go learn what you're doing and why you see no results. Troubleshoot your problem and find a solution.

(You think they didn't go threw this with the microwave oven?) And yes stan talks about microwave ovens on Dvds as well as tv screens and how the electrons react. I do not have all the needed information, But i know where to be looking.

You should NOT stop work on your potential across tap water, (You're on to something) Continue it and make it work. Spend more time researching what you might be doing to that molecule, Take it to the Atomic level and let knowledge grow on you.



Imagine, HH0.
            Voltage                           Molecule                                           Voltage
------ (-) Force     <-------Protons---Bond----Electrons--------> Force    (+)++++++++
                                            OPPOSITES ATTRACT
                                                 Alike Repels                           Trying To pull apart  (Angle 1) - (Pluck)
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Imagine, HH0.
            Voltage                                  Molecule                                          Voltage
------ (-) Force     <-------ELECTRONS---Bond---PROTONS--------> Force    (+)++++++++
                                                 OPPOSITES ATTRACT
                                                       Alike Repels                                      (Charging) Angle 2.
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You see, Are you charging, or pulling? This is why i say research it on the atomic level.

Nothing to achieve really. Even people who devote their life to this don't progress (waterforfuel.com etc.) and people who may have something (warp?) don't publish in the way necessary to replicate it.
The only important thing is the overunity electrolysis, the other parts may require much work but aren't the problem.
I have lost the belief that stanley meyer's electrolysis is either real or overunity.

Stan had 2 setups, One overunity one not. In his boiler plate configeration I know he created 3 phase to run his series cell, The thing is he had a bogus claim of overuntiy etc,,,,.

Hear this Haith, and think on it a bit.

A heat pump can use about (3000 watts) from the power source,, (your breaker box.)
This means you are getting from your breaker Box (10236) Btu's.
To further give you a tool, 1 watt is equal to 3.412 Btu's, Or vice versa.

Now, you have a Heat Pump (Consuming) 3k watts, OR, 10236 Btu's.
Your heat pump is 2.5 tons, It Produces 30,000 Btu's of Heat!

Now, How is it you can take 3k Btu's and simply convert it into 30,000 Btu's? Sounds impossible does it!?
If you or I invented it, we would think it was overunity wouldn't we. When you place this question to an expert in the field you are clearly taught that it is not overunity, It simply transfers the heat from the outside air into the home using heat exchangers. At 1 degree outside, There is heat in the air, and that heat can be brought in.

Much like stan, He has chosen to Claim an overunity device, But it is not. If you can Compare what stan was saying to the above, you might be able to figure out more on the process. It is improperly understood.

We all know we can do things with atoms, we use voltage potential every day, and we simply overlook the fact that most of todays setups mimic stans. For example the microwave oven heats food by way of "Push Pull Motions" on the water molecule. We use lasers, Fluresent lighting, Air ionizers Lifters and all sorts of things I cant name off. All these things basically alter the atoms. We can not figure out how to alter the atom the way we want to alter it, So its making people give up.

Peaply simply do not think, They simply do not understand the process.

(It is By No Way A Miracle to use voltage to deconstruct the water molecule.)


I will say what is always overlooked.

(If you put a DC voltage across a (Molecule) that molecules Bond will be (Stronger))
Opposites attract as you know already, So by giving them a charge vic, (They're more opposite in greater power.)

To understand the vic, And how to pull the water apart with voltage you must first understand that giving the atom a Dc charge is just to get the (Molecules) voltage up to a level to where it is so great, (you can then apply your attack.)  When stan states the voltage across the water will go up to infinity,,, he means he can charge those MOLECULES with a POLARITY.

The greater the charge on those Molecules, (The Greater the bond.) The greater the force. If you increase a Force on such molecule, How do you use this force against the molecule. Wala, seperation.

I use to admit, stan was a joke. But the more I start to understand the atom, and Realize that the Heat pump is much like stans design then see microwaves and all this other stuff,,, This device will one day work! It may not be on the overunity level because it will be layed out and labeled with a reason for its workings, (JUST LIKE THE HEAT PUMP.)

I sent Dynoden my stuff which puts this voltage across any water, (I sent him a start.) If he fails to see the Point of the setup, (This will be bad.) In the setup I sent to him it charges the molecule to thousands of voltages, Perhaps infinity with a better setup.

The voltage across the water should be realized, Dynoden should not rely on his meters and write it off as a Faulty setup. (To light a Lamp) --- (In Parallel) with (9 Tubes in Parallel) the Molecule has clearly tooken a charge. - (Do not deny this) Now the water is(Charged) with a (Greater Bond.) These are the first steps in understanding stan.

Now you understand (A high charge) Makes the bond greater, Not weaker. The high charge of the molecule shall now be (Attacked.) This may mean Flipping the polarity, (Remember the Pulse Train.)

If you had a Tool to measure the Bonding Fields of the water molecule, And you probed the field of this molecule before altered you could write down its field power. If you then use the setup I sent dynoden, when tuned right, Then re measured the Field of the molecule you would see a greater field strength, and a greater bond. You would learn by this that you made the bond of that molecule Stronger. This would leave you thinking,,, Giving the molecule a Charge like stan says to do makes the bond Greater, It does not make it seperate, It makes it even more impossible to seperate. Then you realize, you can flip the polarity, that you give it a charge just so you could use it to pull the molecule apart. I can't explain this anymore/anybetter, it is up to you to understand this process.

The setup I sent dynoden sends a high voltage across the water, (As I shows on youtube.) There is No arguing the light in parallel with the 9 tubes that are also in parallel lighing the lamp, It is a high voltage lamp. The setup dynodon has, it only charges the molecule, it does not ripp it apart, its used to greater the bond fields, Now people should understand what dynoden has, understand this setup and what its doing,, and finish it.  We were taught by stan, The right Freq pulls the water apart.

(Thats Not true) You sit the molecule up for attact, then you attact it, Frequency doesn't matter.

A high charged Molecule when applied to 2 voltage fields, when switched around, the water molecule could pull apart due to the voltage fields. Worry less about the freq, and more on how to attack.

and that was the last thing ever heard about stanley meyer's equipment.

It doesn't matter, The best source of information is here. You've been told how he ran the buggy with a 3 phase generator, And we currently discussed Voltage electrolysis.

The end is just around the corner,, You'll see.

(I will show you if someone else does not.)

When I get making more money,, I'll pay someone to do as I tell them to, And share it right here just for all you guy's, what little handfull we have here.

When I start getting Income, No doubt I will Purchas this gen and set it all up, (I already have the plates.) I suggest someone beating me to the punch, Theres plenty of time to get started on it before I come into play.

I'm sure someone out there is listening, and getting ready to construct quitely.

A trip to the Scrap metal yard for a 3 phase motor only cost me Time, I have electricity here. I already have the right starter motor 12 v DC 3/4 HP.

I'll tell you what,, If someone beats me to this, I'll send them my 12 volt DC starter motor for free if they're going to be installing on a car, (I'll give that to make it easier.) A simple Booster cell for understandings.

Have any of you researched how much electricity it takes to create 3 phase in a shop... You may be surprised at what you can do.

Id say a 3k DC to AC inverter would do on a smaller gen.

(All you have to do is spin the motor and cut the power on.) Its that simple.

lol.

I understand, But this is an alloy, it has copper in it, Like stainless steel has stuff in it as well, Like that. It is Copper and Nickel Alloy so i am unsure what it may look like.