HV and hydroxy
Started by unknown · · 71 posts · last reply 8 January 2010
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Post here your ideas on HV and Hydroxy
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Ive been experimenting lately with compressed air and water mist across a plasma arc at the tip of a spark plug
The 120psi pressure and 12kv makes plasma but no GTNT... -
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Very good to hear that you are trying this.
As i do not have compressed air here to do those kind of tests!
Keep us updated CN!
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Very good to hear that you are trying this.
As i do not have compressed air here to do those kind of tests!
Keep us updated CN!
br
Steve
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Hi,
Well, there is always a first for everything.
And here are the first bubles of a working HV water fracturing setup.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmm2n2OWoHY&feature=user
Br
Steve
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sorry for the noice.... -
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Very Very nice!!!
man that is loud... what is making all that noise? is it the cell? -
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Proof of concept!!!. Try using super corona dope recommende by HMR. It works a lot better. Slowly we are putting the bits and pieces together. The dope has a dielectric strength of 4100V/mil compared to the 500v/mil provided by delrin. The inner tube has to be completely insulated inside and outside.
Liquid tape has DS of 1400V/mil but it did not work for me. Super corona dope worked right away.
I will have to buy a gallon of it before the MIB bans it. -
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Proof of concept!!!. Try using super corona dope recommende by HMR. It works a lot better. Slowly we are putting the bits and pieces together. The dope has a dielectric strength of 4100V/mil compared to the 500v/mil provided by delrin. The inner tube has to be completely insulated inside and outside.
Liquid tape has DS of 1400V/mil but it did not work for me. Super corona dope worked right away.
I will have to buy a gallon of it before the MIB bans it.
Hahahahaha, very good!
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Steve,
Those bubbles appear to be massive. How big are they? Are these bubbles comming off your plate cell? Great job. I'd like to know a lot more about what you are doing. I can't place the sound. Thanks.
Well, there are no plates and no tubes.......
And the noice was a bonus of youtube.....its not in my original video...
Its all in a baby phase. I hope to inform you all soon with more details.
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Hi,
Well, there is always a first for everything.
And here are the first bubles of a working HV water fracturing setup.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmm2n2OWoHY&feature=user
Br
Steve
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sorry for the noice....
So in theory, you could could hook up multiple cells and not draw more current off the primary of the step up transformer?
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Hi,
Well, there is always a first for everything.
And here are the first bubles of a working HV water fracturing setup.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmm2n2OWoHY&feature=user
Br
Steve
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sorry for the noice....
So in theory, you could could hook up multiple cells and not draw more current off the primary of the step up transformer?
Mikemongo
yes, you are right with that conclusion.
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steve -
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steve that looks alot like hydrocars cell and variac in the video is it his video -
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That's great Stevie!
This is the path I have been trying to go down also, it's the only form of making gas that I've ever been interested in.
It's nice to see some results even if their not mine, it does give me some much needed inspiration.
I'm looking forward to some details about your setup. Maybe once we know some details we can help expand this to some massive production (if you haven't already).
Mikemongo
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dudly, it is hydrocars. you seen that right.
But as i said earlier, we actually are investigating why it works.
Its all so premature...
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steve -
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Hi stevie. We would appreciate if you give us some info. -
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hi steve,
nice to see this ,i would like to know how much gas
and is it a tube setup
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This thread needed bumped back to the top.
Since there is no tubes or plates, what shape are the wires formed?
I've spent most of the day today wondering and searching the net for what would be better than concentric tubes to shape the electric field.
I downloaded the video off youtube of ddanvos(? spelling) before it was removed and have watched it a lot. That setup was producing massive amounts of bubbles and the interesting thing was what looked like the bubbles weren't just rising to the top, some were circulating.
I think he was using the spark gap for creating high voltage pulses instead of just a straight HV potential.
It also looks like the bubbles come from something surrounding the 2 electrode wires. My belief is this is shaping the high voltage field. The emanating voltage field is somewhat similar in theory to a magnetic field, so I believe it can be shaped.
I don't know how or if I can post the video, it is a flash video and the .flv extension isn't included in the allowed file types for attachments. I will try and see if it works when I post this. It didn't work.
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could someone please reupload the video you are talking about? I'd be very interested to see it. -
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This thread needed bumped back to the top.
Since there is no tubes or plates, what shape are the wires formed?
I've spent most of the day today wondering and searching the net for what would be better than concentric tubes to shape the electric field.
I downloaded the video off youtube of ddanvos(? spelling) before it was removed and have watched it a lot. That setup was producing massive amounts of bubbles and the interesting thing was what looked like the bubbles weren't just rising to the top, some were circulating.
I think he was using the spark gap for creating high voltage pulses instead of just a straight HV potential.
It also looks like the bubbles come from something surrounding the 2 electrode wires. My belief is this is shaping the high voltage field. The emanating voltage field is somewhat similar in theory to a magnetic field, so I believe it can be shaped.
I don't know how or if I can post the video, it is a flash video and the .flv extension isn't included in the allowed file types for attachments. I will try and see if it works when I post this. It didn't work.
Mikemongo
Mike , i added the FLV format, to be uploaded to this forum.
At this moment, i allow files of maximum 20mb.
Is that enough for your file?
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Thanks for adding the flv format to the attachments Stevie. It's only about 1.5Mb
He didn't give much info in the comments other than it was powered by a neon transformer. He said this was some work from a couple years ago .
Here's the video.OVER UNITY WATER SEPARATION SUPER LOW CURRENT ALOT OF GAS.flv
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Mikemongo,
I love the device in the video. Where can we get more information about it so we can build it. It looks like it has great promise.
Fiditti, this is the only info I've seen on this setup.
I downloaded it from youtube before it was removed by its creator. I think he removed it because people were hounding him for info.
In the comments he said it was some older work and wouldn't reveal any details other than it was a neon transformer.
I don't remember for sure if it was this video or one of his other videos, he said something about not revealing details due to a nondisclosure agreement and hoping to make enough money to put his kids through college.Have ten or more tubes and you'd be able to run a tank. Thanks.
This is why I'm so interested in HV dissociation, there is no current flow through the water and with proper design more "cells" or areas of dissociation can be added with no additional current draw from the power supply. The only drawback is HV is a PIA to work with and this kind of voltage potential really doesn't like to be contained.
I think the HV power supply from a powder coat machine is an ideal source if it can be pulsed. Depending on the brand, they make up to 100KV open circuit voltage, which is the same type of scenario we're looking at. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find a source or datasheet on these supplies yet.
If anyone knows of a datasheet or source for these power supplies, please let me know.
I don't know if this type of setup is ideally suited for an automotive application, but it for sure has potential for home heating, running a generator, bbq grill... our imagination is the limit. Winter is just around the corner and our utility bills are going to be ugly.
Mikemongo
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mikemongo,
Thanks for sharing with me. Do you remember the name of the guy who posted the video? It looks like he's got two separate alternating plazma arcs taking place in the water. I'd sure like to figure out how he's doing this. It's a great little cell with a lot of possibilities.
Now I remember, it's ddanvos68. -
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I remember that that turkisch person blew up his whole house with hydrogen
and the goverment thought he was a terrorist...:-)
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Well, i do hope so.
Tad doesnt respond at all.
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The Ddanvos68 System appears to be a simple variation of the Aqua Fuel Generator Plans as posted on the JNaudin Web Site.
Earlier I typed up a post refuting this, but I decided to watch the video several more times, and now I'm confused again.
It could be an altered version of the bingofuel. The sparks in the video are so erratic, it's hard to tell. The bingofuel video looks like much more UV light coming out. The resolution of this video sucks, especially on my computer at work. It looks like instead of the electrodes being fully immersed in all the water, like the bingofuel videos, maybe there's only a small amount of water exposed to the HV sparking. Look closely , the bubbles are coming out of one area. I don't know if this video can be upped in resolution, but it might help.
It's kinda hard to describe unless you watch the video a bunch of times. There's a lot to see if you watch it multiple times and do some deep thinking.
Mikemongo