ALTERNATOR
Started by unknown · · 162 posts · last reply 8 June 2022
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#26 · date not recorded
can anyone help me with that 3 phase signal?
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#27 · date not recorded
you are showing 18 inductors when there are 9 in the stator.. there are 18 connections (begining and end of each wire) curious to why you show 18? im glad to see you are approching the alternator seb..
check out this picture.. it is how i see it.. i am only showing 1 phase of the whole picture..
controllable amplitude on positive side.. while you have a isolated ground "that can be switched to non isolated" this one i think would be the resonance of the resistance of water.... while you have T2 which would be the 50 percent duty cycle and maybe resonance of the circuit.. then you have the switchable analog or constant.. this is where you can vary amplitude to vary production..
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Outlawstc
Or better, something like this.
I would like to try something like this:
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#29 · date not recorded
Memo WFC 422 DA
pages 3-6 to 3-7
Negative electrical voltage potential (61) of pulse wave (65a xxx 65n) of Figure (3-21) is
simultaneously applied to negative voltage zone (67) via Resonant Charging Choke (62) of Figure (3-
22) which is electrically linked to opposite end of Primary Coil (26). The resultant signal coupling ( 65a
xx 65n ) of Figure (3-21) is accomplished since primary coil (26), pulsing core (53), secondary coil (52),
switching diode (55), resonant charging choke (56), resonant cavity assembly (170), natural water (68),
and variable resonant charging choke (62) forms Voltage Intensifier Circuit (60) of Figure (3-22), as
illustrated in Figure (3-22) as to Figure (3-23). Negative electrical ground (61) of voltage Intensifier circuit (60) of Figure (3-22) is electrically isolated from primary electricaI ground (48) of Figure (3-22).
pulse wave (65a xxx 65n) is
simultaneously applied to negative voltage zone via Resonant Charging Choke of Figure
which is electrically linked to opposite end of Primary Coil
Negative electrical ground of voltage Intensifier circuit is electrically isolated from primary electricaI ground
sounds kind of contradicting when u here isolated all the time..
i think i made a mistake on my first drawing.. the connection is from the negative output to cell to the negative side of primary while having the cell driver circuit isolating them at the same time.. during the on time of driver circuit.. it is dead short and primary will not pull more then the load it wants 12 v.. when it is off the electrons runnign though primary are forced without a choice.. (isolated) cant go to ground and need to go somewhere..
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#30 · date not recorded
i think this one more relates to stans writing
(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j243/outlawstc/101_1026.jpg)
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#31 · date not recorded
I believe that the concept is so simple that is very hard for me to express my plans.. .
Basically you charge the water capacitor with the vic (basic) than as the tubes are connected in series. And than you discharge the tubes thru the secondary as from electron extraction circuit... (this will make it become a self oscillation circuit because energy gained during coulomb force (voltage performing work) enter in the circuit thus you will increase the force, increase the gain and so on (is exponential) watch again new Zealand house meeting 1° and 2°... And think about this ions and dissociation of water... (pay attention when he say that 100 amps * 100v = 10kw power... -
#32 ·
I believe that the concept is so simple that is very hard for me to express my plans.. .
Basically you charge the water capacitor with the vic (basic) than as the tubes are connected in series. And than you discharge the tubes thru the secondary as from electron extraction circuit... (this will make it become a self oscillation circuit because energy gained during coulomb force (voltage performing work) enter in the circuit thus you will increase the force, increase the gain and so on (is exponential) watch again new Zealand house meeting 1° and 2°... And think about this ions and dissociation of water... (pay attention when he say that 100 amps * 100v = 10kw power...
I also try to understand it all, Fabio.
Your theory is that when you pulse a watercapacitor with a charge of electrons, the water will react by returning with more charge from water ions?
Why would that be? Is it no so that every action gives a similar reaction?
Ciao
Steve -
#33 ·
I believe that the concept is so simple that is very hard for me to express my plans.. .
Basically you charge the water capacitor with the vic (basic) than as the tubes are connected in series. And than you discharge the tubes thru the secondary as from electron extraction circuit... (this will make it become a self oscillation circuit because energy gained during coulomb force (voltage performing work) enter in the circuit thus you will increase the force, increase the gain and so on (is exponential) watch again new Zealand house meeting 1° and 2°... And think about this ions and dissociation of water... (pay attention when he say that 100 amps * 100v = 10kw power...
I also try to understand it all, Fabio.
Your theory is that when you pulse a watercapacitor with a charge of electrons, the water will react by returning with more charge from water ions?
Why would that be? Is it no so that every action gives a similar reaction?
Ciao
Steve
Do you remember the photoelectric effect? The electrons being accelerated in the electric field toward the positive electrode.
Is the same thing on the water fuel cell the positive electrode attracts the OH- ions that were attracted by coulombs forces like a magnetic force witch do not get consumed in the process and the negative pole attracts the H+ ions. Voltage Perform work (separating the ions). Than you need the electron extraction circuit witch is nothing more than shorting or discharging the ions extracting the electrons from the OH- ions generating O2 and simultaneously Discharging this electrons on the H+ ions generating H2.
Is fantastically simple and easy now to understand the point on isolated ground.
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#34 ·
it is a little arrogant but come on dankie hes excited we all can get a lil arrogant sometimes it doesnt mean someone must be set in there place.. who are you to judge ones place and life like you know whats best? thats judgment based apon no obersvations other then whats on this site. one could be called ignorant for state what you state without seeing the total picture. the only progress you know of is what is shared by someone. doesnt mean its the whole picture.... as long as sebos is having fun thats all that matters.. and as long as he dont go loopy if it doesnt work -
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What do you want my friend? I came up with the solution for the thing, that also meyer said that were quite simple. Knowledge. This allow me to understand why it will work. I'm doing the calculations witch stan provided to us for the coulombs force witch he mentioned many times as voltage perform work.
I hope you try to understand what i'm saying and be glad that i'm sharing with you the work of 5 years.
I hope you open your eyes and stop throwing rocks when i just talk about serious things.
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#36 ·
Guys i highly suggest you to watch the 1° and second video of the new Zealand House meeting and read the 1° part of the Birth of new technology
Than think again what i'm talking about. You will get familiarized .
Even if is so simple.
Sorry if i seem arrogant, is not intentional, i'm just very very very happy and exited with my discover. I have finished to assembly the motor and the alternator today and now i',m going to make the list of components to buy to make all the circuitry... I will try to use the diodes from the alternator but maybe only one, i'm not sure...
I'm going to try with the transformer probably before playing around with the alternator
i need to construct a cell...
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Man, did you understood the thing about the ions being discharged ? -
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Fabio, with all due respect, I believe you are having an epiphany.
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Certainly. And this is great. -
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#41 ·
With so many important things to be understand and discussed, I feel like your are not realizing the big importance that have this discovery...
Focus! please.
This is your great opportunity to collaborate with something big. I would like to express my feelings regarding this huge skepticism. You should thing to your self that if you daily use your computer to go to ionizationx forum than one day you are likely to see a thread where the true about how things really work to get free energy. So the first step to recognize this, is to see how logics behind the energy gain works exponentially. So You should get more involved to be able to want to understand. If you are really interested in free energy. I was wiling to share because is so stupid that i cant keep this for myself. Stan was a very controlled man for not let this information available. I needed to open a physics chemistry book and a fundamental atomic physics book, and many many many informations accumulated along this time, to understand this.
Hope you understand how much is worth understand what i discovered.
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#42 ·
This topic has been cleaned of all posts who didnt matter to the subject.
Keep it clean, people.
Please go on Fabio! Great topic
Thinking out of the box is what is needed!
Steve
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#43 ·
Thanks steve, i keep working 24hours i'm just finishing the plan of the circuit that i will build today if possible... Than i will do some tests... -
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"More advanced and efficient configurations involve atomizing the water into a fine mist before injecting them into the tube. A make-shift version of this type utilizes a motorized air humidifier commonly found at Wal-Mart for $15 during the winter season. A flexible, expandable hose is connected from the humidifier to the pipe. At the molecular level, neutral streams of water are atomized by the nozzle or humidifier into small droplets light enough to be suspended in air. These droplets, by a well known phenomena, are ionized; when water is split into smaller globules, charge imbalances occur."
Quoted from... http://www.montalk.net/cloudbusting/cloudbust.html
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#45 · date not recorded
And we are thinking with you, Mr. Brasillian casanova..
Now to the topic:
The gain of this new idea might be in the freed electrons of the electrolysis proces.
Step 1: charge up the water till a level that the water breaks down into H and O.
Electrons are freed in that proces, not consumend because you cannot consume electrons.
Step 2: take out charge of the water, which not make it a better system....
Step 3: take out the freed electrons.....hmmmmmm
Step 2 is putting an electron charge into the metal of the tubes / plates. The metal transfers the charge of the electrons towards the water in which the charge is carried on by ions.
If we start extracting the charge of the water, then first we will get the charge back of the ions to the plates which will be carried futher as an electron charge into the wires who are hooked up the metal.
The question is then how we get the charge of the freed electrons back on the plates.
If the freed electrons are in contact with the metal already, then we might have a case....
Then we would make gas, which cost a sertain charge, and then we take the rest of the charge, including the freed electrons back and re-use it...
That way we might get a higher efficiency system
Interesting indead..
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#46 · date not recorded
Steve you are indeed starting to understand. But you got confused in that the water will not become H O atoms, but there are ions already in the water and this ions come exclusively from self ionization of water and they are OH- and H+ ions. Basically Stan created a self oscillating resonant circuit in witch he was using the transformer as a coupler that unite the energy coming from the discharge of this ions with the electrostatic energy being applied on to allow the separation of this ions " the voltage ".
So basically he used the transformer with two distinct circuits connected to the same water coupled magnetically.
The graphic of the voltage is ever rising because the more energy you apply the greater the voltage will be and thus the force acting on the ions separation will be increased with the square of the voltage increase. Thus the greater the voltage the greater the ions separation. Now comes the master part... : Is't charge separation = to voltage? Do they not wan't to bring back together and their separation does not mean that it can do work?
Well this is what the electron extraction circuit is there for:
To create a circuit (circuit of inductors transformer and water) that will discharge this energy from the ions back to the transformer each cycle.
During this discharge of the ions electricity that the h2 and O2 are generated because as they want to recombine together and they are close to he electrode if you short the circuit the electrons will pull out from the OH- also because of the voltage that is working there still on the separation.... successively going to discharge the h+ ions thus forming H2 and O2. In chemistry book here it written as discharging the gases and that opened my mind for this new great idea.
Thats why stan said If you have 100 volts separation of the ions and 100 amps / sec for example of ions... you have 10kw of power of electricity !!!!!!!!!
Do You understand where the power is coming from?
(voltage performing work)
you see?
100 amps means that he is generating almost 4 mols of H2 per hour... and there is that much of energy available..
Did you understood now better?
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#47 · date not recorded
And is not just that, together with that 10kw there is yet the H2 you created too. .. So a hell of energy in a liter of water.
Things important to consider:
A good way to maximize water ionization (from tomlin book i knew that magnetic field is able to do this) but i think that the electric field that we are going to apply already will supply for the least part of energy for the self ionization of water too... whatever i don't know. But now i'm more confident with the stuff stan said about any man with minimal skills in electronics would be able to construct the thing in his own garage. With readily available materials...
A mean for forcing the water to flow between the tubes. Witch i believe that is a must have feature.
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#48 · date not recorded
The gas processor worked in similar manner. And thats how stan could have powered his rockets.
Do you see the hell of energy that there is there...
There were a toy here in brazil called aquamovel witch as a car that you use to put water and a 1,5 volt battery and the car run for a very long time using that tinny battery... And water get consumed... My brother had one. Think to your self destiny irony.
I will explain more clearly another time with the components
too.
Transformer with primary maybe about 50 turns, the secondary (bifilar) about 150 turns, not thin wire, than 1 coil about 100 turns + another coil external witch is variable + A feed back coil to get the resonant signal to lock on the pll... Two igbt that are activated alternately, each one connected to one of the secondary in the manner i'm going to show with the drawing, Basically you create two circuits isolated from each other one for charging the water and the other to discharge the water. i guess is better for observing the effect to not add a load like meyer proposed.
the fact is that the electron extraction circuit witch he showed would not work because the diode shown under is at wrong direction. (misleading propose)
The secret, in the end is this. And also understand the polarity of the coils to correctly create the feed back of the energy...
I think that probably he added a capacitor in parallel with the secondary coil to allow for the discharge and set up the resonant frequency..
I'm not sure of this..
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#49 · date not recorded
I think that i have an old computer here and i will try to use it as my osciloscope... -
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if you sent the negative of all three phases to the primary like my last picture.. you gain the oppourtunity of using the electrons to generate the magnetic field of primary...this i think you may consider simple pll for a forced oscilator (alternator)... it allows your magnetic field of primary coil to amplify during the peak of each phase.. if you connect negative output choke to primary think of how in tune primary will be with three phase.. the negative charge has 2 choices when primarys gate to ground is off.. it can cross water to the postive plate or it can run though the primary to produce magnetic field.. both of them having a resistance.. would the perpetual rotation of the rotor allow you to magnify a echo (the feed back that is in sync with the 3 phases) so lets say you first have to gate a on time to connect ground to primay for a pulling initial magnetic field and then every time you gate on it allows the negavtie potetial to dead shot and fall to 0v this will prevent amp leakage into water.. you would tune into that specific frequency which dead shorts the cell threw ground.. the negative voltage of tube discharges to ground since it is the path of least resistance compared to traveling through primary and generating magnifying field??? this is all dawning on me clear as well i can see the posibilities of this.. but who knows until they experience.. i will find some time to try this approach in the near future.