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i´m glad you started to get it! now i think its time to get and try!

yes kind of i couldnt insert 7hz to the water it created a sine like wave that had only the positive side....on the current graph being ploted in real time...

i have some work to finish if i can i will make a video of it later...

also the water shakes maybe because of the bubbles.. being generated...

i was thinking that perhaqps this aberration on the cuurent measure can be also because of the bubbles..

still dongt know who is this...

i think nobody understood my bad english hahaha

i dont know this samuel..

i was thinking about and i guess i found a missing link... when i was working with barium titanate i found that capacitors have absorption effects...this mean that just like a iron core in a coil if you dont actually reverse the direction of the current there will be groups that remain alligned and as such its not there to be polarized again over and over as it is already polarized....

this is called hysteresis . and it mean that the sistem will remain with some of the charge you put into it necessarely... as water is polar this effect is very pronounced much more than in plastics... however as water have some kinnetic energy the molecules will  disorder fast

when the switch is open here i see a big spike little after that goes up to 70v positive as the switch is on low side...

actually there is my protection system connected in parallel with the cell as im using the freq generator that you see in the videro and its prepared to pulse transformers and allow them to collapse .... i guess this 70v may come from the inductance of the lead wires...




you see what i mean?

yesterday i did some tests and labview gave me strange graphs for current... i kind of found a resonance at 7hz or so... the water shakes...

just pulsing 50% 12v pulseslike you said steve but i get potassium hydroxide on water... using the polished electrodes it gives some nice gas at 2 or 3 amps or so... may be 6 amps peaking...

just one cell... the cell is closed on one side so water stand on its own... 

at certain frequencies it created a small fog like like those foggers.

there is very littel amount of water in the system but only in the gaps of the tube and rod (closed below) but having maybe 5mm of water lever over the cap

the graph showed a sine wave that went to zero periodically like if applying 7hz made the cell to absorb the current in a ac like behavior

I wish you very well good luck! i believe is a good way to go but sphere is not a trivial task to obtain and align... perheps not as much as i imagine...

i will try some but with cylinders for now i will try to use a guitar string as a central  electrode having much smaller radius than the cylinder... so the outside sphere was 3,5 inch?

what was the size of the inner sphere?

i have some small magnets spheres like 5 or 6 mm diameter i could try to use it as electrode...

Point Charges
 
Check Your Answer    Use the formula for the electric field surrounding a point change to calculate an expression that would allow you to evaluate the electric potential (or voltage) at a given distance from the point charge.
    
    

Check Your Answer    How does the graph of E vs r for a charged spherical conductor of radius R compare to its graph of V vs r?
    Observe the properties of E vs r from the perspective of it being a gradient, or negative derivative of V vs r.
    
 
   
For a conducting sphere,
V = kQ/r   For a conducting sphere,
E = kQ/r2

Refer to the following information for the next five questions.

In a hydrogen atom, an electron (q = -e = -1.6 x 10-19 C) orbits a proton (q = +e = +1.6 x 10-19 C) at a radius of 0.53 x 10-10 meters.
EnviarCheck Your Answer    Considering the proton to be the central charge, what is the electric potential at the electron's orbital radius?
    27.2 volts

EnviarCheck Your Answer    How much electric potential energy does the electron have by virtual of its position in the proton's electric field?
    -4.35 x 10-18 J
    This question could have also been phrased as "how much electric potential energy is stored in a hydrogen atom?"

EnviarCheck Your Answer    How much kinetic energy does the electron have as it orbits the proton?
    2.17 x 10-18 J

EnviarCheck Your Answer    What is the electron's total energy?
    -2.18 x 10-18 J
    This energy is negative since the electron is trapped in the energy well of the atom. Recall that you the same scenario when you are working with satellites orbiting planets (link).

Check Your Answer    How much additional energy would the electron need to escape from its energy well - that is, to be ionized?
    +2.18 x 10-18 J

the link i posted explain in detail the theory i had about the electric field from electric potential and geometry..


gaus law is nice.. but this use charge to calculate the voltage and vice versa.. so it allow to calculate not only the strenght but how it behave over distance from eletcrode..

those equations are the same i arrived...

but they explain more completely ...

hope you can understand....

it also have some curiosity about hydrogen atom. .

like the electric  potential of the electron orbit.... and so on (at the answers)

One thing I found interesting is that when you have pure water and you add potassium to is with current applied it will start a strange reaction that is not the same if you dilute the same amount of potassium before hand and make the same experiment…

There is something about the ionization  energy of the molecules that come into play and somehow rings in the cell…

Basically you are producing ions while splitting them at same time without letting time for them to equi distribute forming a strong equilibrium

I found it has the potential to destabilize the reaction.. you should test it… to confirm if that was my impression from my tests..

Get to be real potassium hydroxide pure

The weak version didn’t made this effect … don’t even look the same… I tried to buy a kilo of it but is kind of very white… seems not pure at all…

Could be a way to understand it… prepare the readings and make the experiment the best you can …


I was thinking also corona discharge is favored in a low vacuum…
The pressure change the distance between the molecules in the gas…
Mean free path as increase it become easier for the ionized molecules to accelerate…

But is to be questioned…

https://youtu.be/uRaQLZaaHWo?si=3gDBgTya15Pw0vgS

Theres something About a magic frequência that when you hits with it simply break apart… the frequency is very very high

The question really is how the hell he made it self oscillate at that frequency by other means and accomplish the task that really is to break the covalent bound

I believe heat is part of the process in the sense that heat is vibration and water heat capacity has to do with the vibrations we talk about

The hotter something is the higher is the amplitude of this vibration

As I tried to explain is possible to cause a field from inside out the water… I have that tests of the water coil to prove that it kind of work but the only think regarding it is the resistance of the large water volume…

I need to spare some time to get it on again… in mean while I’m trying to keep up with work

I believe this frequency may be dependent on pressure and temperature in a sense…


A chain reaction is a reaction in where you put energy in for a while and than the medium start to decay generating more energy and not actually consuming the energy was charged completely

So at a certain energy density the reaction occur in a explosive manner that’s why Meyer had his injectors idea…

After all they will catch lot of heat and work hot

Nuclear reactors operate with pressurized water at high temperature but it don’t explode…

They don’t apply a electric field maybe?

Perhaps the easier way to discover is to make a water hydrogen bomb hahaha put it under a very high pressure and monitor the pressure vs temperature change try to find some range where it explode nicely

Yes, it is, now i'm having a good time making bobbins made of resin, for a generator that we designed...

I suggest to make each peace with double face mould and than join them together with more fABRic and resin...

Its a great way to do things "professionally"... The layers can also be insulated by layers of resin and fiber fabric... But takes lot of time...

The plastified paper work as a mould (it wont get wet and become soft) so you simply start putting resin and fabric... than take the mould off... The face where the mould was will become smooth and flat...

You should not leave the mould as there it is paper and it will maintain certain humidity... is easy to take it off even from inside of a tube...

if it is able to generate a variable dc voltage it could be good... to work in conjunct with a pll for example.. that is my thought...

basically make all the car control on arduino,, would be feasible// i guess

i have an idea of what i want but don't know where to start.. could you give a hint ?

which arduino to get for that function and its limitations... and functions?

Very nice setup.compliments.. What frequencies you can use? With arduino? I always wanted to get one but never could ask anyone how is it regarding this...

Good luck

You welcome my friend,

check his youtube video is pretty amazing when he talks, he start talking or destroying the conservation laws...


I got really interested, cause it became clear to me what Hartmut Muller, John Quincy St Clair, and others were talking about...

sebs

There is a theory, that i found which i believe seems what meyer based his ideas about universal energy. All protons in the all universe are connected together, they are wormholes or singularities that connects to each other. All this because of the density of the vacuum energy localized within the space inside the nucleus. Seems that the vacuum energy is calculated from getting the plank length which is the smallest wave length possible, ( when a photon basically is about to superpose another) so integrating a volume of space summing all this high energetic small wavelengths will give the density of energy of a given space portion. There is a guy which a friend told me about at the university, called Nassim Haramen that developed this theory explaining this.

Well this explain many things, from intergalactic delay-less communication and so on...

sebs

Dankie try adding a minimum resistance to the sim on multisim It use to help avoiding his kind of problems. I used it a lot in the las 4 years. Very cool sim.

Ac electrolysis can't happen alone, it is only used on the resonance part of the thing. You need dc component of the current. How one could apply high frequency field to an  electrolyses while having thru the same set of electrodes huge current dc. Witch is the only way you can have high frequency voltage field being applied and at the same time create dc current of huge amperage??? 




 

I've researching about the mechanical resonance involved in this project i'm proposing and I found to be amazingly complicated to achieve and maintain the mechanical oscillation. 1° because will depend on the weight of the internal magnet and the forces of the other two related magnets and also will depend on the power applied. So a mean for controlling the voltage applied will be needed.


I though this,
Construct the tube with the magnets than discover its mechanical resonant frequency, than construct a well designed coil that coincides in electrical resonance with the resonant capacitor but also its magnetic field strength for the desired power operation, to allow the magnets to resonate...


I don't know if you understand my point...


something like this:

Hi steve, cool but i think would split only the urea don't?


However I got more infos to tweek our minds...


I want to come back to Stan messing up with ionization word meaning ...


Today i got a lesson about bases and salts...


There are bases like


NaOH-
Ba(OH)2
Fe(OH)3


This when in aqueous solution ionize and become



NaOH-     ----------+H2O------====   Na+ (aq) + OH-
Ba(OH)2  ---------+H2O------====  Ba2+ (aq) + 2OH-
Fe(OH)3 ---------+H20-------==== Fe3+ (aq) + 3OH-




I'm believing that the way find Stan secret is:


1 Build My proposed Resonant tank. Comprising huge inductor ( 1mh about 30meters of wire about 5mm thick and + home built rolled capacitor with polypropylene film and copper foil...    )
2 Build 2 stainless steel cells comprising one inside and one outside tube for each cell. (with antiparallel diodes as i proposed) 
3 Add a multimeter in parallel with the cells and try every type of electrolyte!!!!!!


When you find an electrolyte (acid, base or salts) or combination thereof that makes the voltage on the cells to drop under 1,24 volts just JUMP AND CELEBRATE!!! and Tell us...


Regards...


To operate probably the resonant tank wont be necessary if you make it series cell, however to discover the right electrolyte will be needed because is the only way to have the current to pass thru the water with min possible voltage...


 
 

Cool, so now is about tune to the water proprieties from what seems to me.


I'm winding a toroid i have here but is very hard cause i need to put lot of insulation cause my wires are pretty old. I think that up to tomorow i finish. Still need to put 700 turns =)


The coils you are talking about are 100 turns like he described? bifilar?


Br
Fabio