Stanley Meyer demystified
Started by unknown · · 55 posts · last reply 1 September 2023
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I've spent a great amount of time analyzing patents, reading theories, and creating my own experiments over the better part of a decade...I'm at the point I believe I can adequately put it all together, I will start this thread to lay out the premise, and document results. (Most of my equipment/experiments were stolen from me in 2010, I am essentially starting over...only archive that really remains is the few videos left on my youtube channel @Zer0pointunlimited )....
Stan created, and patented several iterations of his devices...it is my belief now, that Stan, like so many others, intentionally confused and misled people for a couple of reasons. First, his most complicated device, "The Water Fuel Cell" is a culmination of multiple principles already in public domain at the time he released it. Those being, observations of bipolar dynamics of water and high voltage accumulation of charge pioneered by Lord Kelvin (think of the famous Thunder Storm experiment ran in reverse), phenomena discovered by Nikola Tesla in his Utilization of Radiant Energy patent regarding photons impinged on a capacitor plate through a transparent insulator (Stan's gas processor) and observations Tesla made on the discharge of a condensers(capacitors) into inductors, and lastly, the phenomena of nascent, aka mono-atomic, aka "Atomic" hydrogen, explored by Langmuir.
The hang-up most people quickly come to, that stops them dead in their tracks is such....Everyone is operating under the premise that you need to make enough hydrogen on demand to run an internal combustion engine in it's normal mode of operation. By that, I mean a direct replacement of gasoline....that is NOT the case, and has NEVER been. While technically possible, the size of the machine to do so would be impractically large to make it viable in a mobile setting. Even Stan's initial, and most complicated device, The Water Fuel Cell did not do this...and neither did his revised and much simpler injector plugs.
The Water Fuel Cell technology is the most complicated form of the technology and really only desirable for industrial applications where stored hydrogen is needed, and/or the creation of novel magnetized/ionized gasses is desired (more so the Gas Processor)...but I will break-down it's fundamental operation none-the less.
It all comes down to this, "Voltage can do work"...Stan's system essentially turned an electrolysis setup into a capacitor with water as part of the insulator, it uses the fact that water is an insulator, or DI-electric in it's pure form, which means it has equal and oppositely charged atoms making up it's molecule (high dielectric strength), and therefore resists the flow of electrons. The only catch is that water has a low dielectric constant due to the self ionization of water (quantum dynamic of hydrogen ions being delocalized, same phenomena of the "electron cloud" and their location being non-determinate until the very moment of observation...see Quantum "Double slit experiment"). So, just trying to step-charge the Water Fuel Cell with water as dielectric alone, doesn't have very good results as a capacitor. Stan's patents says he overcame this with a custom made stack of alternating carbon/stainless steel resistor. I hypothesized insulating one of the electrodes, which J.L. Naudin did per my recommendations here in 2008, http://jnaudin.free.fr/wfc/index.htm
The results showed true capacitor action with clear as day step charging, and all the scope shots looked absolutely identical to waveforms in Stan's Patent. Naudin was not impressed with the results, noting only small bubbles and low production (he never went on to produce version 2)...instead Naudin went on to pursue new iterations of circuitry four years later with a pancake coil, and the use of purified water. But never came back to a single insulated electrode.
This brings me to the next requirement that MUST be accomplished to do what Stan was actually doing in the Water Fuel Cell....an ELECTRON EXTRACTION CIRCUIT MUST BE IMPLEMENTED, which I have never seen in any redevelopment....the pure capacitor result MUST stretch the water molecule due to polarization, this is not debatable and well established, and that will %100 reduce the strength of the covalent bonding of water and in fact break the bond (but without a place to go, will recombine due to nondeterministic quantum nature of electrons). This is described in Stan's patents, he shows a resonant high voltage waveform, with periodic off time....this off time is called a "gating" signal. The gating signal does two things, shuts off the input pulse, and simultaneously turns on an electrically separate "electron extraction" circuit...remember, there is covalent bond breaking due to the stresses of polarization in the voltage zone of the Water Fuel Cell, BUT....due to the "delocalized" quantum nature of electrons, as soon as the water leaves the voltage zone, or the voltage is turned off, the molecule starts to relax, and electrons redistribute to their normal probabilistic distribution. The Electron Extraction Circuit turning on from the gate pulse, as the resonant step-charge pulse is turned off, overlays a different potential path to strip the electrons during their momentarily stretched and weakened/broken covalent bond state. The light emitting diodes that make up the resistive load of the Electron Extraction Circuit act as a detector and "observe" the electron's position, making the otherwise indeterminate location of the electron, determinate....electron pulled out of water via VOLTAGE, the opposite/inverse of electrons being dislodged by current pushed into the water molecule....the establishment pushing for investors to sue Stan for fraud shortly before his death, was simply because they couldn't tell the difference and only saw electron flow...and he refused to explain the technique in a method people could grasp.
Now, even as Mythbusters showed in their attempt to debunk the movement, using Hydrogen as a direct method of replacing gasoline is not viable...enter Stan's "Gas Processor"...and the creation of "Atomic Hydrogen".
As I said above, a device that operates in the manner just described to produce enough gas to run a internal combustion engine in normal operation is prohibitive to mobile use, due to the surface area/size of such a device. Instead Stan utilized the further energy release that was described by Langmuir's Atomic Hydrogen observations. Difference being, Stan utilized more efficient methods, namely, another voltage zone, an orthogonal magnetic field, the released photons from the Electron Extraction Circuit, and another Electron Extraction Circuit to snap the Hydrogen molecules into singular Hydrogen atoms. This allows the under-powered molecular hydrogen to release atomic hydrogen's impressive (and anomalous) thermal heat and expand the size of the other incombustible gasses in the cylinder to drive the cylinder.
Lastly, the culmination of this technology into a small device the size of a spark plug.....
In Stan's final device, he figured how to get everything to happen at once, in the Water Fuel Plug...it is deceptively simple.
It starts with an efficient means to turn water to steam, he used two identical, non grounded transformers, with their secondaries attaching to overlapping voltage zones to limit current flow, and increase the vibrational excitation of water into steam, then he ionized the entire air intake of the motor, producing large amounts of ozone being loaded into the cylinders, lastly he fed the steam, and some ozone into the voltage zone of the of the plug and hit it with a high voltage, high current blast. The blast dissociated the water molecule into hydrogen/oxygen and the ozone then rips the free electrons away (making atomic hydrogen), and the massive amount of intake ozone somehow prevents the Atomic Hydrogen from re-associating to molecular hydrogen (reverse mechanism of chlorine depletion of Ozone layer?? I'm not sure, haven't analyzed this effect yet)...Creating Stan's "Atomic Nuclei Decay" of Hydrogen, that he said continues in the cylinder until the products are vented in the exhaust phase, and the Hydrogen can grab free electrons from the air/sun....
This is the easiest form of the technology, all it requires is an efficient resonant charging circuit to be able to charge a sufficiently large electrolytic capacitor on demand, then dump the capacitor into a autotransformer with sufficient inductance/mutual inductance, then an intelligent utilization of positive feedback loop(s) (diode) to re-route self-induction and mutual induction to work with the application of the forward discharge pulse, in effect, exponentially accelerating the the change in work and the change in time (Delta Work/Delta Time=Power), producing an exponential rise in energy provided by the speed in which the magnetic field can be created, and also the time in which the Aether can collapse the magnetic field and send the energy forward. Basically it makes self/mutual induction work with, instead of opposed to the application of current/growth of magnetic field, and subsequently the collapse of field/discharge of current as well.
Attached is a simple circuit I made to disprove an erroneous theory of operation MANY years ago (my explanation was oversimplified then, but ultimately correct), it is deceptively simple, but very powerful...increase the input voltage and change the neon to a spark plug of own design....be wary of those who claim to know the "secret" and mystify it...they are either charlatans only interested in exploiting you, or intentionally trying to confuse the truth. The only arguable thing here, is that Aether is the mechanism of magnetic collapse, but the current state of Quantum dynamics is on that verge now, it's about to be accepted as the current model of Quantum Mechanics.
P.S. One more reverse biased diode across the primary would make it even better, re-routing/realigning primary self-inductance, and flyback spike (I made the diagram 14 y/o, captured from energeticforum archives)
My next post will expound on this coil's operation to give everyone an easily understood basis to get you doing amazing things with it (be careful, it has potential to emit high energy radiation...ie, "soft x-rays")...it is a common thread to many OU technologies. "Splitting the Positive"...Gray, Puriarch, Stan, etc....
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I’m very interested in your theory! And I agree the system would better fit industrial appliances however I calculated recently that if the water can indeed generate electricity it would be possible to have a car runing with only hydrogen with the expense of at least one third of its output power…
I came up with some calculations using chat gpt that the cavity can be used in a sort of generator mode if hiring at its antiresonant point and provided some geometric forms fields are present so that water will resonant with its sound proprieties causing displacement of the charges in reference to the field generating a voltage that must be consumed in order to generate the gas… feeding back this energy is what make it possible to become overunity since the energy is coming out at same time as hydrogen is generated so it may basically convert kinetic energy into electrically but as the hydrogen is generated backwards as long as the electricity it would suppose to consume there is no voltage drop so basically electric input is not consumed directly… only at diodes and resistances and of course the displacement of water that also may cause heat. Since the generation of hydrogen is endothermic this heat may be absorbed causing the so called cooling effect while operating the cell…
I calculated that and is all well explained in my thread so I hope you can later check to that and tell your point view on that
Basically my understanding is that after creating hydrogen in an effective manner it can be simply used as it is since it can create a cop of at least 9 theoretically or higher so actually an electric vehicle would be better use of it than a combustion engine
Now if later we can ionize and provide more bang to the buck is a second question to answer. I think may be addressed in the same manner of the first…
One thing that come to my mind is making coils big like
8 inch long 2 inch square thick and revisit Meyer theory of amp restriction but having high power applied to that
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Very interesting, such a thing may very well be possible. If you kinetically resonate it with enough amplitude, the molecule would shake apart, I will take some time to look into it more.
Stan's WFC with the electron extraction circuit (the demo model did not have an EEC), moved electrons out of water without pushing others in, so that along with H2 and O2 dissociation gave the cooling effect. If your AI assisted method works, it would be interesting to see if the resonance imparts heat via collision.
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I've spent a great amount of time analyzing patents, reading theories, and creating my own experiments over the better part of a decade...I'm at the point I believe I can adequately put it all together, I will start this thread to lay out the premise, and document results. (Most of my equipment/experiments were stolen from me in 2010, I am essentially starting over...only archive that really remains is the few videos left on my youtube channel @Zer0pointunlimited )....
Stan created, and patented several iterations of his devices...it is my belief now, that Stan, like so many others, intentionally confused and misled people for a couple of reasons. First, his most complicated device, "The Water Fuel Cell" is a culmination of multiple principles already in public domain at the time he released it. Those being, observations of bipolar dynamics of water and high voltage accumulation of charge pioneered by Lord Kelvin (think of the famous Thunder Storm experiment ran in reverse), phenomena discovered by Nikola Tesla in his Utilization of Radiant Energy patent regarding photons impinged on a capacitor plate through a transparent insulator (Stan's gas processor) and observations Tesla made on the discharge of a condensers(capacitors) into inductors, and lastly, the phenomena of nascent, aka mono-atomic, aka "Atomic" hydrogen, explored by Langmuir.
The hang-up most people quickly come to, that stops them dead in their tracks is such....Everyone is operating under the premise that you need to make enough hydrogen on demand to run an internal combustion engine in it's normal mode of operation. By that, I mean a direct replacement of gasoline....that is NOT the case, and has NEVER been. While technically possible, the size of the machine to do so would be impractically large to make it viable in a mobile setting. Even Stan's initial, and most complicated device, The Water Fuel Cell did not do this...and neither did his revised and much simpler injector plugs.
The Water Fuel Cell technology is the most complicated form of the technology and really only desirable for industrial applications where stored hydrogen is needed, and/or the creation of novel magnetized/ionized gasses is desired (more so the Gas Processor)...but I will break-down it's fundamental operation none-the less.
It all comes down to this, "Voltage can do work"...Stan's system essentially turned an electrolysis setup into a capacitor with water as part of the insulator, it uses the fact that water is an insulator, or DI-electric in it's pure form, which means it has equal and oppositely charged atoms making up it's molecule (high dielectric strength), and therefore resists the flow of electrons. The only catch is that water has a low dielectric constant due to the self ionization of water (quantum dynamic of hydrogen ions being delocalized, same phenomena of the "electron cloud" and their location being non-determinate until the very moment of observation...see Quantum "Double slit experiment"). So, just trying to step-charge the Water Fuel Cell with water as dielectric alone, doesn't have very good results as a capacitor. Stan's patents says he overcame this with a custom made stack of alternating carbon/stainless steel resistor. I hypothesized insulating one of the electrodes, which J.L. Naudin did per my recommendations here in 2008, http://jnaudin.free.fr/wfc/index.htm
The results showed true capacitor action with clear as day step charging, and all the scope shots looked absolutely identical to waveforms in Stan's Patent. Naudin was not impressed with the results, noting only small bubbles and low production (he never went on to produce version 2)...instead Naudin went on to pursue new iterations of circuitry four years later with a pancake coil, and the use of purified water. But never came back to a single insulated electrode.
This brings me to the next requirement that MUST be accomplished to do what Stan was actually doing in the Water Fuel Cell....an ELECTRON EXTRACTION CIRCUIT MUST BE IMPLEMENTED, which I have never seen in any redevelopment....the pure capacitor result MUST stretch the water molecule due to polarization, this is not debatable and well established, and that will %100 reduce the strength of the covalent bonding of water and in fact break the bond (but without a place to go, will recombine due to nondeterministic quantum nature of electrons). This is described in Stan's patents, he shows a resonant high voltage waveform, with periodic off time....this off time is called a "gating" signal. The gating signal does two things, shuts off the input pulse, and simultaneously turns on an electrically separate "electron extraction" circuit...remember, there is covalent bond breaking due to the stresses of polarization in the voltage zone of the Water Fuel Cell, BUT....due to the "delocalized" quantum nature of electrons, as soon as the water leaves the voltage zone, or the voltage is turned off, the molecule starts to relax, and electrons redistribute to their normal probabilistic distribution. The Electron Extraction Circuit turning on from the gate pulse, as the resonant step-charge pulse is turned off, overlays a different potential path to strip the electrons during their momentarily stretched and weakened/broken covalent bond state. The light emitting diodes that make up the resistive load of the Electron Extraction Circuit act as a detector and "observe" the electron's position, making the otherwise indeterminate location of the electron, determinate....electron pulled out of water via VOLTAGE, the opposite/inverse of electrons being dislodged by current pushed into the water molecule....the establishment pushing for investors to sue Stan for fraud shortly before his death, was simply because they couldn't tell the difference and only saw electron flow...and he refused to explain the technique in a method people could grasp.
Now, even as Mythbusters showed in their attempt to debunk the movement, using Hydrogen as a direct method of replacing gasoline is not viable...enter Stan's "Gas Processor"...and the creation of "Atomic Hydrogen".
As I said above, a device that operates in the manner just described to produce enough gas to run a internal combustion engine in normal operation is prohibitive to mobile use, due to the surface area/size of such a device. Instead Stan utilized the further energy release that was described by Langmuir's Atomic Hydrogen observations. Difference being, Stan utilized more efficient methods, namely, another voltage zone, an orthogonal magnetic field, the released photons from the Electron Extraction Circuit, and another Electron Extraction Circuit to snap the Hydrogen molecules into singular Hydrogen atoms. This allows the under-powered molecular hydrogen to release atomic hydrogen's impressive (and anomalous) thermal heat and expand the size of the other incombustible gasses in the cylinder to drive the cylinder.
Lastly, the culmination of this technology into a small device the size of a spark plug.....
In Stan's final device, he figured how to get everything to happen at once, in the Water Fuel Plug...it is deceptively simple.
It starts with an efficient means to turn water to steam, he used two identical, non grounded transformers, with their secondaries attaching to overlapping voltage zones to limit current flow, and increase the vibrational excitation of water into steam, then he ionized the entire air intake of the motor, producing large amounts of ozone being loaded into the cylinders, lastly he fed the steam, and some ozone into the voltage zone of the of the plug and hit it with a high voltage, high current blast. The blast dissociated the water molecule into hydrogen/oxygen and the ozone then rips the free electrons away (making atomic hydrogen), and the massive amount of intake ozone somehow prevents the Atomic Hydrogen from re-associating to molecular hydrogen (reverse mechanism of chlorine depletion of Ozone layer?? I'm not sure, haven't analyzed this effect yet)...Creating Stan's "Atomic Nuclei Decay" of Hydrogen, that he said continues in the cylinder until the products are vented in the exhaust phase, and the Hydrogen can grab free electrons from the air/sun....
This is the easiest form of the technology, all it requires is an efficient resonant charging circuit to be able to charge a sufficiently large electrolytic capacitor on demand, then dump the capacitor into a autotransformer with sufficient inductance/mutual inductance, then an intelligent utilization of positive feedback loop(s) (diode) to re-route self-induction and mutual induction to work with the application of the forward discharge pulse, in effect, exponentially accelerating the the change in work and the change in time (Delta Work/Delta Time=Power), producing an exponential rise in energy provided by the speed in which the magnetic field can be created, and also the time in which the Aether can collapse the magnetic field and send the energy forward. Basically it makes self/mutual induction work with, instead of opposed to the application of current/growth of magnetic field, and subsequently the collapse of field/discharge of current as well.
Attached is a simple circuit I made to disprove an erroneous theory of operation MANY years ago (my explanation was oversimplified then, but ultimately correct), it is deceptively simple, but very powerful...increase the input voltage and change the neon to a spark plug of own design....be wary of those who claim to know the "secret" and mystify it...they are either charlatans only interested in exploiting you, or intentionally trying to confuse the truth. The only arguable thing here, is that Aether is the mechanism of magnetic collapse, but the current state of Quantum dynamics is on that verge now, it's about to be accepted as the current model of Quantum Mechanics.
P.S. One more reverse biased diode across the primary would make it even better, re-routing/realigning primary self-inductance, and flyback spike (I made the diagram 14 y/o, captured from energeticforum archives)
My next post will expound on this coil's operation to give everyone an easily understood basis to get you doing amazing things with it (be careful, it has potential to emit high energy radiation...ie, "soft x-rays")...it is a common thread to many OU technologies. "Splitting the Positive"...Gray, Puriarch, Stan, etc....
Nice and well written Radiant!
I also believe in the EEC.
Looking forward to your next explanation
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Expanding on the importance of self/mutual inductance and how to manipulate it.
Making self/mutual-inductance work in phase with applied primary current, accelerating the change in work, and compressing the time scale, amplifying total power delivered (step-up transformer)
Take for instance again the attached simple circuit. I have no video at the moment, but, if you build it, you will see. Without the diode from the LV+ to HV lead, you will see both electrodes light up, with the bottom neon electrode being brighter. If you add the diode string, you will see only the bottom electrode light up MUCH brighter.
Without the diodes, the forward current of the primary, through mutual-induction creates a reversed flow in the secondary, and the the HV lead is HV- on forward induction and the top neon terminal lights up (current flows from + towards -, the HV- lights up because Voltage flows - towards + ), then the current stops flowing, and the magnetic field collapses much faster than the forward field grew, ("flyback always collapses faster), this collapse reverses the voltages, and the change in work happening over a shorter time increases voltage (Delta Work/Delta Time) making the bottom neon electrode glow brighter.
Now adding the diode...
Normally, as the primary current flows, the mutual-induced current in the secondary opposes the current flow in the primary and creates an opposing reversed magnetic field that fights the magnetic field being created in the primary, by adding the diode string with negative polarity facing the HV lead....this reversed mutual-induced HV- current shorts out through the diodes, as such the opposing induced current in the secondary is allowed to flow out of the secondary, this also removes the opposing induced magnetic field in the Flux core. So this first step, neutralizes the opposition of mutual-inductance.
At the exact same time, the rerouting of this current out of the inductor of the secondary, creates its own reversed self/mutual inductance in opposition to itself, into the secondary, along with a magnetic field also opposed to itself, this self/mutual inductance of a self/mutual induced current is now IN PHASE WITH the primary current/magnetic field (opposite of an opposition), and pulls the primary magnetic field into the core faster, and in turn, pulls the current in faster, which in turns increases the induced current/field speed, etc, etc....in essence, it creates a positve feedback loop, exponentially accelerating the speed which current/voltage is distrubuted across both primary and secondary coils (both coils are energized).
Once the capacitor/pulse is empty/off, the voltage across the primary reverses (see RLC circuits) matching secondary polarity (there is also a possibility the primary current(s) are pulled into the feedback loop as the HV- potential rises, as they would be HV+ biased regardless of their LV bias).
The diode shuts off, and the magnetic field starts to collapse, being as there is no opposed current/field in the coils, or in the iron core, the "Flyback" occurs faster than normal, and the voltage flips and increases many factors higher, and all power is sent forward across neon/gap. None of the power was lost (besides losses due to resitance), and it was in fact, amplified beyond initial input. Aetheric inpouring was allowed to occur by destabilizing/reorienting self/mutual-inductions that would normally balance/oppose forward applied current and magnetic field propagation/collapse. (I suspect self/mutual-induced counter currents/EM fields arise from aetheric polarization)attachment_16887 Experimentalproof.jpg
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Expanding on the importance of self/mutual inductance and how to manipulate it.
Making self/mutual-inductance work in phase with applied primary current, accelerating the change in work, and compressing the time scale, amplifying total power delivered (step-up transformer)
Take for instance again the attached simple circuit. I have no video at the moment, but, if you build it, you will see. Without the diode from the LV+ to HV lead, you will see both electrodes light up, with the bottom neon electrode being brighter. If you add the diode string, you will see only the bottom electrode light up MUCH brighter.
Without the diodes, the forward current of the primary, through mutual-induction creates a reversed flow in the secondary, and the the HV lead is HV- on forward induction and the top neon terminal lights up (current flows from + towards -, the HV- lights up because Voltage flows - towards + ), then the current stops flowing, and the magnetic field collapses much faster than the forward field grew, ("flyback always collapses faster), this collapse reverses the voltages, and the change in work happening over a shorter time increases voltage (Delta Work/Delta Time) making the bottom neon electrode glow brighter.
Now adding the diode...
Normally, as the primary current flows, the mutual-induced current in the secondary opposes the current flow in the primary and creates an opposing reversed magnetic field that fights the magnetic field being created in the primary, by adding the diode string with negative polarity facing the HV lead....this reversed mutual-induced HV- current shorts out through the diodes, as such the opposing induced current in the secondary is allowed to flow out of the secondary, this also removes the opposing induced magnetic field in the Flux core. So this first step, neutralizes the opposition of mutual-inductance.
At the exact same time, the rerouting of this current out of the inductor of the secondary, creates its own reversed self/mutual inductance in opposition to itself, into the secondary, along with a magnetic field also opposed to itself, this self/mutual inductance of a self/mutual induced current is now IN PHASE WITH the primary current/magnetic field (opposite of an opposition), and pulls the primary magnetic field into the core faster, and in turn, pulls the current in faster, which in turns increases the induced current/field speed, etc, etc....in essence, it creates a positve feedback loop, exponentially accelerating the speed which current/voltage is distrubuted across both primary and secondary coils (both coils are energized).
Once the capacitor/pulse is empty/off, the voltage across the primary reverses (see RLC circuits) matching secondary polarity (there is also a possibility the primary current(s) are pulled into the feedback loop as the HV- potential rises, as they would be HV+ biased regardless of their LV bias).
The diode shuts off, and the magnetic field starts to collapse, being as there is no opposed current/field in the coils, or in the iron core, the "Flyback" occurs faster than normal, and the voltage flips and increases many factors higher, and all power is sent forward across neon/gap. None of the power was lost (besides losses due to resitance), and it was in fact, amplified beyond initial input. Aetheric inpouring was allowed to occur by destabilizing/reorienting self/mutual-inductions that would normally balance/oppose forward applied current and magnetic field propagation/collapse. (I suspect self/mutual-induced counter currents/EM fields arise from aetheric polarization)
Reminds me of another circuit. Diodes help to prevent reversal, and support redirection. Harvesting backEMF nets another step. But, there's always a headroom ceiling you can attenuate within.attachment_16889 27044586_10209671422936746_282499230_n.png
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Reminds me of another circuit. Diodes help to prevent reversal, and support redirection. Harvesting backEMF nets another step. But, there's always a headroom ceiling you can attenuate within.
But that's not what's going on here at all...the diode string reroutes or short circuits the reversed mutual-induction forward pulse of the secondary caused by the rise of charge and growth of the EMF of the weaker initial discharge into the primary. It's starts a chain-reaction positive feedback loop of accelerating the input charge across the primary which is normally slowed from the opposing counter-EMFs of self/mutual induction. Rerouting the this initial counter-EMF from mutual-induction caused by the time-on, has the effect of not only removing the counter-EMF, but it creates it's own self-induced and mutual-induced counter-EMF against itself, which are both working WITH the primary's EMF. As that happens, they all accelerate each other exponentially...
Easily got ChatGPT to do a thought experiment..
https://poe.com/s/fWGwferekLEqSBqVESky
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I've been busy with the family lately (catching up on yard work, installing a pool, and quality time)..., but I've gotten a pair of ignition coils, 40khz piezo transducers, an ozone generator with water bubbler, 6lbs of citric acid, and a 405nm laser delivered. Waiting on 40 3w 410nm LEDs to be delivered (highest energy absorbtion spectrum of hydrogen(Stan's red LEDs were the lowest energy absorbtion spectrum).
But in the meantime I've started developing a compliment-gated CD4047b frequency generator and I'm fabricating a 19-tubeset Cell, along with a few test cells with a tighter .91mm gap (gap distance for the acoustic 4th harmonic of 10khz (40khz)).
I've also had some more productive talks with ChatGPT about a hypothetical "water capacitor", effect of insulating the postive, how water would still be part of the dielectric, polarization, photoelectric effect, momentary ionization, temporary solvated electrons, orthagonal magnetic field effect on ions and moving electrons, the inverse of classic electrolysis, behavior of sound and voltage wave propagation in concentric tubes, resonant pulsed DC charging circuits, charging chokes, and even a lil argument about String theory being essentially rebranded
Aether theory...lol
ChatGPT is becoming quite the valuable tool. It helped me calculate the .91mm annular gap being a 4th harmonic of 10khz waveguide for 40khz ultrasound through 20c water, and how to tune resistance and inductance experimentally to make the RLC circuit also resonate electrically at 40khz.
I've also been reading alot of recent research papers on the current state of "the art", specifically ultrasonic electrolysis, chromium and nickel catalysts, plasma electrolysis, electron and proton tunneling, and something that really clicked with photoelectric effect, and subsequent "soft x-ray" emmision... Looking at you Herman P. Anderson (RIP), and your Hydrogen isotope "radiolysis" water plugs...oh and ozone absorbtion in water, and NO3 scavenging of solvated electrons from Water, wondering why it's always NO3, and not O3...think it's probably because O3 decomposes to NO2 and NO3, and hydroxyl radicals relative quickly (1hr at most on cold water)
I'm also finishing up a scratch built 3d printer on linear rails, it has dual steppers on every axis to create torque for the heavy y-axis 5/16" forged aluminum bed, and high-speed/balance and precision for the x-axis...the z-axis has really nice anti-backlash nuts, should be really nice to help rapid prototyping. Just have to trim the bed a little, cut /drill the steel flatstock to mount the bed to the bearing blocks, and mount the solid state relay to drive the bed from mains 120vac. My old modified robo3D R1+ is getting tired, and I'm tired of the z-artifacts from the cheap "floating" gantry....So, I'm quite busy lately, but I'm chugging along..."I'll be back" 😅🫡 -
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First video in years....I need to find my real camera...phones is too slow 😪. Although, you clearly see plasma from the top electrode when I first remove the diode string....the video doesn't do the phenomena justice.
Anyway, take a look at what I'm trying to share...
The anomalous event is so fast, the camera never once caught it...just the sound and the "after flash". Yet the previous "normal sparks" were caught, but they had plenty of error.
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Now, on to the secondary....and those pesky "chokes" (think of that word....choke....) we want to do the opposite of what was just demonstrated. Instead of neutralizing self, and or mutual-induction opposition forces, we want to amplify these time-delaying forces.
The claim that the chokes flux should nullify each other, is misinformation. The very term "choke" describes thier action....to restrict and prevent flow,...to "choke". Having the two coil's flux cancel, by not reversing the polarity of negative side choke (same direction coil, opposite direction flow) would also cancel their opposing induced flows....there would literally be no reason to wind the chokes at all...the diode isn't blocking anything then, as the WFC would only see positive spikes, with very little inductive ripple.
That would do nothing constructive to restrict amperage and it would, in fact, sabotage the next primary forward current flow (the energy we have to pay for) after the flyback that just pulsed the secondary. Because it would cause an opposite voltage (direction) mutual-induction in the primary....the chokes would be doing nothing, and the amplified current flow in the secondary we just so cleverly maximized/amplified have to fight the re-routed flow induced from primary current, and simutaneously create a high opposition reverse flow that would destroy our forward pulse.....horrible idea!!!!
Instead, the chokes have additive flux, restricting current flow severely, additive self/mutual-inductance...that, because of only one "pumping diode" on the positive side, is allowed to reverse flow from the negative side into our positive feedback loop. This would have two very significant results....
A. Accelerating the primary current, and increasing the primary current time-compression even more (compounding even more harmony), and....
B. Forcefully removing/sucking the opposing self/mutual-induced currents from the chokes, into the positive feedback loop, removing the opposing voltage from the pumping diode, accelerating the flyback collapse of the chokes, accelerating the secondary flow into (and simutaneously out of) the WFC (and into the positive feedback loop), all while the primary flyback collapse starts....
The result is....two harmonious, mutually accelerating, helical, caduceus S-flows....one in the primary flow getting sucked into the feedback loop, and a mirrored one with the secondary flow getting sucked into the feedback loop...each, accelerating each other towards infinity (limited by imperfect components....but very HUGE amplification).......Lastly, it all would be there in the positive feedback loop, existing both outside the secondary, but inside the secondary the moment the primary flyback occurs and shuts down the feedback loop's diode(s).....only to start all over again...I present to you....Stan's crypticly understated "double pulse" two mirrored S-flows,...aka, the infinity loop, aka the "flux capacitor".......But....wait, there's more.....something would have to give...failure of water dielectric, blown diodes, arc'd out burnt windings....something would give...so, this event....happening with every resonant pulse, HAS to be modulated...aka "gated"....aka turned off periodically before components fail....and that compliment gating, off-signal, immediately turns on a completely separate circuit, to extract electrons using that huge stored charge.... Funniest part, if you don't know whats going on, and test it at any part of the system...it just looks like plain old electrolysis.....
That's it, demystified (more on Gas processor and atomic hydrogen later)...it doesn't outright violate any laws...buuuuut, it does require "outside energy" to explain the amplification....that, I argue is a quantum Aether, I argue these opposing self/mutual-inductance forces are polarized eddy-like currents of sticky Aether dragging against our currents as we force them through the aether, aka the "heavy-side flow", polarized and in opposition to our currents, causing drag "every action has an equal and opposite reaction"....whatever we push against, or pull against, pushes or pulls back against us.
In an attempt to balance our "unnatural" imbalance (the entire Universe interacts on the basis of reaching equilibrium/balance)...it manifests a measurable opposition, and we can reroute it, and severely imbalance the Aether and rhen use the influx of balancing Aetheric energy to amplify our energy.....Furthermore, the flyback time-compression is caused also by the Aether....we pay energy to perform work (push the Aether away with a magnetic field)....like blowing up a balloon under the ocean....when we stop, the atmospheric pressure of the Aether collapses it so hard and fast that it spikes past ground-state equilibrium....towards infinity...and in a fraction of the time....🤓😎 -
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Almost forgot....we also need to bleed off the energy with the Electron Extraction Circuit to discharge the water capacitor. Because even though DC can't technically flow through/past a capacitor....much like an inductor, an empty capacitor will allow an influx of voltage, that pulls in, aka "condensces" (capacitors used to be called condensers), or, otherwise fills the capacacitor with current. So to keep getting choking action out of the chokes, we have to periodically drain the Water Capacitor. We drain it, in such a way that electrons leave the water capacitor to neutralize and nucleate the temporarily dissacociated ions into neutral molecular gasses....and again, on the surface, it looks like regular electrolysis to the meters and scopes. -
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Ok....that's why there's a huge Mohm resistor on Stan's negative, instead of true insulating coating....voltage travels from - to +, and current travels from + to -...it's a resistor in series, not a bleed-off resistor...it allows voltage to pass instantly and therefore pull current from the +, but when the current gets to the negative it can't flow much at all....but we still get that influx flow into the water capacitor to power the choke effects...and everything on the negative side choke, assymetrically gets pulled into the feedback loop durring choke influx....it would rarifiy the negative leg of the secondary, causing a rise in negative voltage....those mirrored, in-phase AC-like pulses in Stan's patents.....wow, it just dawned on me...OK, no insulation, just some custom high resistance load resistors on each negative, all wired in series...👍 -
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It would also lock electrons "in motion" as they try to bleed off through resistor instead of snapping back through ion relaxation (that would also encourage solvated electrons, that would respond to an orthagonal magnetic field 🤔)...then we supply a much lower resistive path to ground with the Electron Exctraction Circuit...OK, gonna go make the gating half of my dual CD4047B pulse generator Finished the main resonant frequency, compliment-gating mode CD4047B...now I just have to make another free-running one to gate it...I could just use the 1/2 frequency Q or Q not output, but, one of them is slightly out of phase, and not sure if 50% duty cycle of resonant frequency is going to be right...I can adjust it uncoupled to resonant frequency with a second one...gonna pull down the gate signal with a resistor just enough to still be a high-state input, but simutaneously trigger a H11G2 optodarlington, to trigger a NTE5569 1400v 80 amp SCR. -
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Well, CD4047BE worked like a charm....
Just mocked up, waiting on some components to arrive to really finish it....but, it works like a charm. Gating pulse generator is compliment-gating the resonant pulse generator, and simultaneously driving a dummy LED (will be swapped for an opto-darlington). Super exciting....
A few key points to CD4047BE; Timing capacitor needs to be non-polar. The input on the main compliment-gating CD4047 has a 10Kohm pull-down resistor to ground, preventing a floating input. For the chip to act as it should, you shouldn't use less than 10Kohm timing resistor, and shouldn't be more 1Mohm. The timing capacitor should not be less than 100pf...super simple. When the rest of my components get here, I will decide/finalize the opto section....Need to decide if I am going to wire the darlington's gate to emitter to make it an opto-diode...less gain, but should operate cleanly up to around 300Mhz.
Attached are pics of the waveform, and the test circuit with dummy LED lit up....
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Woke up early for this....these babies came earlier than expected. About to bust out the drill press while I wait on some other components, Gas processor+EEC 🤔attachment_16913 20230706_032028.jpg
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Took me longer than expected, tooling stainless is a pain in the butt....several heat cycles have gotten the micro-welded outter tube as paramagnetic as I can get it...barely holds a neo-magnet now, the weld (seen in the top of the attached pic) is still a little more ferromagnetic, that's why I lined the optical port with the weld (to remove the strongest ferromagnetic portion). I really need to get a mini-kiln to hold the temp at 1100deg for an extended period to get it fully paramagnetic. The inner seamless tube won't even hold a neo-magnet.attachment_16915 20230707_110319.jpg
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I got some large chunks of Delrin, and plenty of PETG filament...gonna draft/print some parts out of PETG to test and finalize parts to be machined out of Delrin later. PETG is a good insulator, and chemically resistant too, they may be good enough to hold up to ionized hydrogen, we'll see. -
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Very nice electrodes
If maybe you apply the leds light in a certain angle it will make shine all the cavity instead of going perpendicular straight to it
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Took me longer than expected, tooling stainless is a pain in the butt....several heat cycles have gotten the micro-welded outter tube as paramagnetic as I can get it...barely holds a neo-magnet now, the weld (seen in the top of the attached pic) is still a little more ferromagnetic, that's why I lined the optical port with the weld (to remove the strongest ferromagnetic portion). I really need to get a mini-kiln to hold the temp at 1100deg for an extended period to get it fully paramagnetic. The inner seamless tube won't even hold a neo-magnet.
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Thanks, doing some experiments to see if 410nm is opaque to glass/water...to see what kind of housing to make the container/window out of. -
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Disappointed today, I had a 4.6" ferrite toroid delivered today...it was shattered in about 6 pieces 😰
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Very nice electrodes
If maybe you apply the leds light in a certain angle it will make shine all the cavity instead of going perpendicular straight to it
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You can perhaps run some calculation to find the optimum angle and 3d print a suporte to hold them
I believe it will increase the interaction with the water cell space
The ferrrite you can glue with super glue usually loose very little of the original permeability depending on where broken
I would also polish the electrodes to look like mirrors is not so hard
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You can perhaps run some calculation to find the optimum angle and 3d print a suporte to hold them
I believe it will increase the interaction with the water cell space
The ferrrite you can glue with super glue usually loose very little of the original permeability depending on where broken
I would also polish the electrodes to look like mirrors is not so hard
Use a car paste for polishing at the end phase
I used 60-220grit dry ceramic based sandpaper to start/remove welds, then 600grit ceramic wet sandpaper, then 2000grit ceramic wet sandpaper...finished the inner electrode with titanium dioxide buffing compound. Achieved a mirror finish, there's a few tiny hairline scratches here and there, I will do a final buff before assembly. Also tapped the inner electrode (will fabricate a brass or copper lug embedded in the PETG mount to attach) and a small tap on the outter electrode for electrical connection. Should bounce all that light around real nice. (Pics attached)attachment_16924 attachment_16926 20230712_211036.jpg 20230712_211253.jpg
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They modified ChatGPT to be "faster" (really they made it dumber, and increased "hallucinations")...I wonder why?? 🤔
At any rate, a nice conversation about mixed solid and liquid dielectric coaxial capacitors. Confirmed some ideas I have about insulating the negative....
Then a comforting discussion on my idea to directly control my dual CD4047BE resonant frequency/gating circuit with a digital resistor and an arduino to track and maintain drifting resonance ("highly accurate, and a very flexible/cost-effective solution")....had to correct datasheet info several times, but finally got there lol. It's gonna work like a charm, and it even gave me some C++ code to use just the arduino ADC input and all software to get it done with a pick-up loop on/near the transformer. To think, most people are making drawings or writing stories/click-bait....
https://poe.com/s/r5Rc3GIylQ4jhosQw5Fw