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The Hefferlin manuscript was regarding steam to Hydrogen engine using high frequency. Back in those days , 1921-late 1940's, high frequency + high volts was only related to the famous high voltage Tesla coil. The extreme vibrations antagonized the molecules to separate very easily in heated chamber. The modern Patent reference I cited was to show that a particular frequency was relied on to make efficient hydrogen fuel gases from steam. Samuel Leach, 1970's  Patents 4148701, 4113589,4247379,4272345   - special composite coating in chamber inside emits frequency when heated, extracts Hydrogen from steam.  Newsweek April 19, 11976, Sam Leach's box pg78.     
Tesla coils can be made/adjusted for many frequencies output. The secondary tube is made first and accurately adjusted. The Primary is then tuned to to that one. Early models were spark gap and capacitor type. Nowdays they can be solid state firings of secondary. Back issue Electronics magazines have articles.

The S1R9A9M9 Georgia engines conversions had used only AUTOLITE brand spark plugs with solid COPPER ROD center. There are many part numbers, but most are with internal resistor of about 4000 ohms. The AUTOLITE 295 is ZERO ohms, non resistor type,  and not iridium type, as recently tested by me. This validates the Georgia electrical circuit as being able to pass the 7 Peak AMPS Current through spark plugs.


My Horvath Patent power Supply as beefed up CDI for powering the separate water cell is just about done. Fans being hooked up to keep China Inverter transistors / heatsink cooled. The end transformer TR2 with battery cable needs to be wound. 30 turns #12 and 3 turns #6. Photo to be sent later. I have been ordering parts for the aquarium box cell, as fittings gauges, special switches, etc.

 Time to change the wall calander! Happy Holidays!

The Meyer Hydrogen system is the 2nd best invention since bench top Cold Nuclear Fusion Heat. HHO is really H+ H+ O-- as charged ions. The gases have more energy total. The Patented Meyer term is Thermo explosive Energy. There were 3 systems. proof of design, concentric tubes water cell, and multi use injectors with electrons extraction, lasers and pulsed high voltage,- at pulse modulation. There are more gases evolved during off time as the on time. See Stan Meyer company manuals as,- Birth of new technology and Water Fuel Cell dealership Manual. Many Patents. The resultant true Meyer cell has thick, tiny, tiny, FOAM rising upwards in cell. All the rest is H2 with water vapor/ and or electrified water vapor large bubbles. Voltrolysis as >1500volts DC in plain distilled water.Deionized water was better. Two inductors resonated with cell and power source. Input secondary pulse through inductor to water capacitor as lowered volts to PREALIGN polarity water molecules. Then high volts DURING OFF TIME with vibration separates with no current, voltage pressure. Diodes make hydrogen, AC makes heated/ water. Very low wattage input. Overunity as huge efficiency. Power for engines and factory blast furnaces.

The Engineer Horvath had 3 related Patents for hydrogen from water auto conversions. Final cell as low voltage , another at high voltage with same instilled circuit, and the more elaborate water cell with central radiation Magnetron tube.Photos do not tell which type was displayed.  I studied the low volts model and typed out page of proof reading errors not caught .Patents  designs included obvious non essential parts to deter people from replication, - such as cast special carburetor, large diameter cell, interior - rather than external transformer.
 Outer box strong magnets on sides of narrow cell would suffice to speed ions . I had 2 steel plates knurled rough with matching flutes nickel plated at machine shop.. They would face each other in narrow gap. High temp gray PVC plates measured for cell + removable cover. Source for free distilled water would still be needed.

Horvath  Patented his process in 1976, of forming electrical conversion circuit to power car engines. The very small well known CDI unit, - Capacitor discharge Ignition is normally low power to run the engine ignition coil. Horvath BEEFED it up for 450 WATTS to make Hydrogen fuel , in cell, as IMPROVED EFFICIENCY electrolysis. Cars run on water to hydrogen gas fuel and standard alternator recharges battery 40 amps. I studied the whole thing in depth. 200 pulse amps, magnetic field, field directed to electrodes, heat contained, 2 magnetic nickel plated electrodes,  both gases used at once, no tank storage, - fuel upon demand. The 22 pulse amps per pulse is 10,000 times per second with step down transformer for 30 volts 200 amps pulses applied . 1uf at 300v DC capacitor with modern MOSFET pass transistor, charged from Inverter Tr1 transformer and passed to TR2 transformer. Water only in fuel tank. Electrolyte solution conducts heavy current. No output large diode as waveform on scope is called Critical Positive Wave,because the discharge is high frequency , but applied to a low frequency steel laminations core, - not Ferrite!!! U.S. Patent read on line ,- 3980053
P.S. A factory special cast carb is not necessary. A used carter single barrel one can be used with a "spud in jet' at the venturi point on side of carb. (same thing as used on propane conversions of small engines years ago.) Special screen not necessary to separate gases areas, since a safety water can would be used between engine and main cell, along with normal flashback arrester.

I rebuilt another S1R electromagnet, as to be able to reduce input current from 4 A to 1.5A. Has to do with doubling number turns so as the magnetic field is same with 1/2 current. 39 turns now for 1.5 amp draw. Direct proportion of turns to field. Remember that we are using the power that would be associated from Briggs alternator as 4A + 11 A for max 15A capability at idle speed.

My other (same) S1R coil was put inside my NEW much larger vacuum chamber with many pin terminals , so as can have various connections for various purposes. The Briggs is factory set timing, so as the VARIED power resistor with coil allows for varying magnetic field for tests. The 60 cycle inverter box as pure sine wave will be used with push button single pulse , and then later with regular on time running of power supply. The 7A Peak pulse will be read on the ground return side to Inverter DC with VOLTS SCOPE fast reading over 1 ohm metal resistor. 7 volts read is 7 pulse amps. E / R = I . Currently finishing up the 6" Carlon larger box and smaller 4" box. Both include the Tesla magnetic spark gap. I am assuming release of (2) radiant energies inside Vacuum box not escaping into Ambient air and following the wiring and inductors to spark plug. High V enters exact at cathode of diode in-between inductors. I really like the heatsink/fan assembly being sold as obsolete from old style computers. The dell unit is way cheaper than purchasing separate sink + 12v fan. Hole drilled in center for mounting MOSFET pass transistor. Complete cheap modules available for preset frequency + duty cycle control. Inverter is 220 v with separate adjustable module for reducing AC to about 130v AC. Then full wave rectifier. Has 2 protections for power input inverter using 15kv diodes bank with vertical blowing fan, and no battery ground hooked to engine metal. (Starter only) I have choice of + or minus high volts at full level. I also installed new water delivery system as upper tank with CERAMIC type TINY TYPE bubbler with DC air pump to get Nitrogen embedded water, and neodymium magnets along length of water hose to carb. (polarized water separates easier) Alum square tube holds strong magnets in place with interior tubing.
 
The original 60 turns coil test in Georgia was the prerequisite for the S1R coils. No photo, The circuit showed that ignition cable could be INFLUENCED by external magnetic field. The S1R coils served several purposes. Nathren just wanted a cheap method of doing it. He said the magnetic field quit only when plug fired. 2 ways - ignition pulse intercepts diode in Magic Relay shutting off low volts, and ignition volts causes interference in S1r coils other low volts side.

 Vacuum boxes contain S1r coils, magnetic gap, 2 inductors and diodes. A second spark gap in series is required to keep spark plug working with water solution.

Push button for initial test of moving piston. Self-running engine requires revolving, so as there is a FAST much-lowered compression at bottom of stroke , affecting water to water vapor , then as susceptible to further influence. There is to be also polarized water vapor repelling, and increasing piston pressure.

 Set up now has a different smaller Briggs 8.5 HP engine that has a starter and plastic ring changeable alternator. Just purchased cheap flywheel that has the LARGE magnets for the alternator for more current output. The use of Aluminum ring gear on steel flywheel allows for use of plastic small gear on starter. COMPLETE ELECTRICAL ISOLATION for the expensive China Inverter box.

I ran across recently a statement made by Nathren long time back,  in Georgia, from the shut down tech web forum. It was a reference to the use of very mini Tesla Coil in conjunction with the Briggs engine Magnetron ignition.  This would provide Radiant Energy, and increased voltage to spark plug. The old forum said that the technicians noted a higher voltage on the lawn mower running engine than the conversions done on car engines. for water to Hydrogen spark plug electrolysis with resulting self running from the 12 alternator magnets. 2005-2008.
No core miniature air core wire wound forms were called Color TV Delay Lines ,- magnet wire on cardboard tube or the smaller radio coil RF inductors. The R.E. would be and aid to the conversion.

The take apart You Tube video of electromagnet is actual one used in 2 running Briggs engines videos. The one in other "Smack" video was wrong, and not original. The back story regarding S1R electromagnet came about during the 2008 electrical test called, - 'The 60 turns coil test". Outside influence from ignition cable pulse reduces amps in electromagnet coil WITHOUT STEEL CORE. 20a draw to 12a DRAW. The final S1R triple coils assy had steel nail magnetic core that greatly increased magnetic field over plug wire , so as allowing timing ATDC and necessary field at spark plug. Coil hooked to adjustable power resistor for amps used. Battery start, then dual alternators on Briggs engine ran the electromagnet  and Inverter box primary side for about total 15 amps . You can reduce amps draw 1/2 by just doubling the number of turns wire on SPECIAL wound electromagnet for the same field strength. ( See photos /drawing engineer called S1R9A9M9 "MEGATRAN")
The Georgia technicians said that the field dropped when ignition and inverter fired spark plugs The high volts shuts off the "ON" diode in between the inductors, so as electromagnets not energized. Ignition reverses and fires plug. The amps flow resumes with on diode. Radiant energy issues forth to enhance the spark plug with it's water solution. So called "Magic Relays" with 2 inductors 1.75mh, , diode, 6-8 sets contacts + pivoting armature, all in Bakelite VACUUM chamber.The cars had adjustable distributor timing, so as the accessory electromagnet was needed on lawn mower Briggs engine 18HP of preset factory timing.

     



The shop work in Georgia 2005-2019 was about not using a traditional water cell with plates for H gas. Piston pressure by combustion chamber electrolysis with improvements added. They used a found box of special made relay extras, that were for traffic lights controller. Used for the PARTS inside the vacuum chamber,- not relay action. The wiring hook up allowed for radiant energy to be used , not escaped into the air. There were several pages about Browns gas involved from the negative electrons absorbed by water vapor that helped create extra piston pressure. Timing has to be retarded to ATDC. They used an electromagnet for that called the S1R9A9M9 triple coils assembly. Impressed field over plug wire causes the spark to CONTINUE well after tdc. I'm presently doing a bench set up Briggs 1 cyl, to repeat the You tube videos of 2008. The guy converted his v8 El Camino for 18mpg water only in tank, - lowered power of course.  They had 400watt inverter box with DC to spark plugs through the L coils + diode inside the relay. PVC pipe , coupling + end caps can be used with inductor coils , 4:40 brass screws , nuts, and diode on wood slat to replicate the "Magic Relays" , as they called them. I used a 4" square Carlon gray box with cover and seal. Also brass fittings and vacuum gauge. Hand pumper is the one used to check brake fluid on auto brakes.  To use water, the engine selected to run a standby power generator has to be 3-5 times larger HP required to keep it working. The You tube videos show mower engine started , then battery removed, and the dual alternators on Briggs 18HP ran the main circuit. I believe 4 + 11 amps for alternator capability of 15 amps. This is only if they didn't upgrade the factory alternator + flywheel with larger magnets. (Just turn shaft for AC output power. More amps out if no volts regulator is used, as the voltage is higher. The car conversions had the dual batteries recharged. Secondary side of Inverter ground not to touch batt grnd for more than a few milliseconds. Separate wire from plug ground back to inverter DC neg. The lawn mower engine ran itself on just alternator output because of the spinning 12 magnets. EGR added with the impressed Nitrogen in exhaust smooths out the engine running. See the You tube 2 videos on the S1R9A9M9 water engine. HEAR what a water engine sounds like!

 Mower Converted Water/Hydrogen

Those engines converted in Georgia 2005-2008, as I said before, had used electrolysis at spark plug at over 100volts dc for the hydrogen generated, but had also used BROWN'S Gas. Some people don't know about that. With a pulsed type DC power supply there is an electrical charge put on water vapor that also produces pressure due to expansion of like polarity gas. Both together form the piston pressure that runs the engine. The circuit also used Radiant Energy from the vacuum chamber Bakelite dual coils + diode that enhanced the reaction. The dual alternators on the mower engine ran electrical circuit on the built in 12 magnets providing AC when shaft is turned. The converted car engines used 2 batteries with alternator charging both during driving. Later, It was found that EGR Nitrogen added to engine increased efficiency further. Tech data taken, copied, from original web forum , now shut down.

Special 2008 Electromagnet Defined!

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I use UU cores from Amazon - UY1658 5 sets package . Also sold on Ebay + Aliexpress. These are the larger type. I hold them together with 5/8" spring steel hose clamps. Can hand wind easily on one end or both.

The smaller, thinner UU cores are available from Alltronics LLC. 2 for $7.95 + shipping. Uses Smaller spring clamps. I also cut 2 brass threaded rods with 4 brass nuts 4:40 thread, and 2 plastic cut out pvc end plates with 2 holes. I sometimes wrap peel + stick 1/16" cut rubber strip on core first for high volts insulation.

You can also purchase complete 3 piece ferrite E core types with bobbin, in many sizes. (allowance room for magnet wire) The bobbin is enclosed. Have outside spring clips to hold together.

I also got many used flyback transformers from taking apart 280 old tv's to get the ferrite pieces. The small ones are put in pan of boiling water to loosen the glue. Then carefully pry apart.

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 Nathren from Georgia messages forum  had said several times that the engine conversion to water required 100volts and 6-7 amps. Later on, the circuit schematic for car engines was published using the Inverter, diodes  and a dual coils relay per cylinder. The drawing only showed half wave DC output as about 35 volts DC. I had contemplated the coils and diodes formed back EMF as higher volts forward, to make up the difference. Otherwise, bridge rectification is required to get the 100volts.  Just another means to keep company data private.
The bench test I did short while back showed about 118 ohms resistance with spark plug electrodes and salt water, as one tenth amp at 12v DC only allowed.  Calculator was used several times verification.  The same higher 100 voltage would also be required with small engines , as the Briggs 18HP from 2008 summer demonstrations done. Only electrolysis Water cells with large SS plates surface area, in solution can use 12v DC input.   The operation of an engine on spark plug electrolysis, even at a lower power level, is still advantageous . Some have used large capacitor discharges for large bangs, and using CDI, but this is in microseconds time, not the required milliseconds. I have Patent copies of very old concepts of spark plug firing hydrogen methods. (Full cabinet) See also MOOKER Open source Forum on alternate energy , and https://www.ionizationx.com/index.php
 
I have packet of selected out copies of tech documents from the shut down Waterfuel1978 .
I had told you of the Georgia use of lower quality square waves Inverter boxes , that should have been the Pure Sine Wave Type! The fast REGULAR peak pulses currents are way better. The other type would need to be several hundred more watts , just to get quality Peak pulse currents.

Now today, I am referencing to you about the sealed relays used back at that time. Rated for 60 cycles use but for about 3-6 volts input. They called them the 110v relays  or the magic relays. The second coil of two in series was fired with both the low volts 7 amps and the high volts ignition the same time. It's not made for that, and most probable, were shorting across the windings of the magnet wire . All of the Georgia engines ran slightly rough . The exhaust water added back in with  Nitrogen content had helped somewhat.
 My new coil in sealed vacuumed box is Ferrite toroid with 1.75millihenry inductance, - the same as they had ,but wound with #16 gauge wire that is 10kv high voltage ignition cable, about 23 turns. (Not magnet wire #21 gauge as used in sealed relay)  Diodes also present under the vacuum to release the Radiant Energy from cathode, to follow wiring to spark plug. Georgia tech people hand crafted 2 relays that failed, and were also NOT used in vacuum.  The first of 2 original inductors not needed any more , because of the supplied magnetic field of the S1R coil. I assumed the "Magic" was because of the internal Radiant Energy created, along with the required magnetic field from the other coil inside of sealed relay.
These 2 items were on my mind lately as the Inverter change, and Inductor change. My power supply as first testing will be used with 500Watt  open board 20khz DC to DC converter , about 140volts DC. The toroid inductor in box, is for that power supply, as ferrite material is used for high frequency. I also have the 60 cycles low frequency sine wave type inverters , but still undecided on the appropriate inductor coil. For some items, you can save lots of money by bypassing E Bay + Amazon , by buying direct from China from AliExpress. We just have to wait 2-3 weeks delivery.

The 2008 Nathren + son Nathren mower engine demonstrations  had the burned out green inverter box in background of video. Nathren had shorted it out, but never removed it for the videos. Since circuit requires 110v DC,, just like the car engines,  there must be  a smaller 300Watt inverter in rear hole of cement block. It was hidden, just as the plastic deli tub held several other parts away from prying eyes. Battery start. Battery removed. Crankshaft turns and turns alternator at idle speed. 13 magnets power all.  The 2 alternators need bridge rectifier for about 15 amps max, for 5 amps S1R9A9M9 electromagnet coil and 9-10 amps for input to inverter. Self running Briggs 18HP engine, on salt water!  (Hydrogen gas and ionized repulsive water vapor pressure )

The fuel gases come from the injection of 7 amps DC during the TDC zero to -neg 34 degrees 34% late timing as required with hydrogen engines. The approximate  1 amp AVERAGE DC is over the full cycle period.  (110v DC at one average amp is output of Inverter secondary side. ) The flywheel then goes all around with no ignition for 66% time back to TDC.

John Keely - Floating hollow brass sphere, Floating platform with vibrators array, triple sirens on 1 ton platform floats with ratio inharmonics applied ,
and demonstrated tuning forks array hooked to triple wires in series as silver, platinum and gold , as hooked to 2 ton steel pressure tank.
Tank rises up and set on steel tripod. Visitors signed affidavits as being present , late 1800's. The 5 Million dollar Keely Motor Company 1865-1899

Reference  Aug 27, 2008  Waterfuel1978 Forum

Briggs Magnetron with triple coils assembly, inductor,- used with standard Ignition coil bench tester. Daveand5 noted the leakage inductance crossover voltage 150v to the low volts side. When wires hooked up, the Briggs 15kv coil gave out an unusual 40kv. Range switch on 50kv. He noted also the plastic tub holder had helped raise up voltage. He suggested increasing the 2nd and third coil size for further change.

After reading this paper over considerable amount of time, I recently got the idea of COORELATIONS. I did this years ago with other subjects, and it works. If you do some bench tests and note 4 outcomes, but only mention 2 or 3 to others over long period, the people still have questions. The originator may deem it not significant to talk about.

Based on these other COORELATIONS I find that the Georgia people neglected to tell of ignition major voltage change, when firing spark plugs with the new S1R coils assembly.

With the S1r coils having reversed source flows of power, there is inherent designed in interference placed on the spark cable-bare wire. This we already know forms longer on time of spark ATDC and mild magnetism at tips of plug. The Georgia techs failed to mention about increased volts firing the spark plugs. They called it boosting the ignition cable by adding more current. Volts + current are 2 different things and by different methods. Inverter output current and magnetic field impressed.

(1.) The plastic deli tub holding the S1R electrical wiring acted as a capacitance for aiding the increased voltage of output. We know the general DC power supplies use a filter capacitor after the diodes, that raises up the end volts.

(2.) The 2008 bench test indicated an abnormal change of ignition volts going as to 40KV.

(3.) Nathren said the earlier 60 turns coil over plug wire test on fender of car engine formed magnetic field that fired spark plug in air with white/blue ball flame blast. Under compression it is stronger.

(4.) Nathren said that the Briggs 18HP engine tests with S1r coils gave higher output voltage than the car engine ignition coils.

Therefore, because of correlations, it is my contention that it is normal for our S1R windings coils to increase the Magnetron high voltage to a much higher range for firing saltwater solution for successful running a water engine.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Proof That Nathren's Briggs Engine Had Dual Alternators!!!


    You Tube Smack investigates claims of S1R9A9M9 time  6:03

Briggs 18HP has alternator cable hangs down behind starter motor and oiling tube. See cable against metal casting, see white 2 piece wire connector, and 2 wires there.
Long time back I directly asked Nathren about engine serial number to get capabilities such as alternator. He flatly denied that it had alternator under flywheel. He even said there were no magnets under flywheel. He started protecting his + shop technicians invention.

I am currently collecting original tech statements for my new file folder on JUST readings from Nathren, non technician,  and Son as technician also same name Nathren. Father signed in on forum as S1R or S1R9A9M9. The son signed in as Nathren. You can tell the difference in the writing quality. Not using statements from other technicians. Data has to be from the horse's mouth.  Mr Ed could do better. Two views on this was (1) Hydrogen generator at spark plug from using Briggs dual alternators power after 18HP Briggs engine up to Idle speed.  10 amps flow current direct from alternators output.
(2) Special circuit applied as RESONANCE between the water capacitor at plug gap + L coil Inductor in series as being equal and adjusted, to the input AC alternators frequency at idle speed RPM. The Magnetron as negative high volts out goes through the S1R coils assembly and fires an accessory spark gap and connected to ground through the outer extension cord with end plug breached. There is over 100volts formed on low voltage side of S1R coils by leakage inductance intentionally made. You already know that. The 100v and alternator AC is applied to the "cell" spark plug gap of salt water capacitor.

The Briggs plastic ring alternators have the opposite end of magnet wire grounded on bottom side of ring to the engine casting top. The bottom of spark plug is grounded the same to casting. I was guessing both ends of output wires put together to get 10amps from 5 +5 amps. One line going to plug, and casting travel for the return to opposite end of ring 2 wires. The brown extension cord becomes the usable ground for any other spark gap in the deli plastic tub hanging on side of 18HP.

The original 2008 Youtube video from "the Smack", - man that looked over the wild claims, said that Nathren mentioned resonance phenomena using coil + spark gap resonance. The idea was that the resonance allowed for fast expansion of polarized NEGATIVE water vapor as over charged with electrons. The molecules repel each other. Process happens at lower piston travel under change of compression, at late timing ATDC. So......... The AC power flow is through low voltage side only , through the inductor adjustable, and to the salt water capacitor spark plug. The extreme high volts not needed. My old file on this method I had labeled "Induction type power supply" Diodes cannot be used as stopping any resonance.
My current problem is figuring out how engine was originally started / fueled in 2008, to get to IDLE speed since there is extremely low volts and current from alternators at time of engine cranking, at lowered RPM of flywheel and 12 magnets. The temporary Battery DC, before being disconnected in 2008,  has power and needs DPDT relay ac vibrator buzzer with frequency adjustable by capacitor used, to make AC for starting purpose. The on/off dual sets contacts pass the changing direction current. A low frequency transistors INVERTER would work also at 13-14v AC. The transformer 12 to 14 volts AC may need to be hand wound. The Inductor would be sliding adjustable inductance bolt inside plastic tube as wrapped with magnet wire.

I did an outside test of old push mower engine using PVC T fitting and hose connected to carb. Center stuffed with metal screen and filled with CARBIDE STONES. Poured water on stones. The engine started fine and sounded just like gasoline engine. The acetylene gas formed pulled into combustion chamber by manifold vacuum. I wonder!............. Tell me that you read my message.

Those epoxy filled black microwave OVEN diodes max out at point 2 ( .2) A  at max 20kv usage. They are also low frequency type. (not fast recovery) There is also a burst mode rating but only for very short duty cycle time. The 15kv units are rated .75amp, at low frequency. The machine imprint from China factory leaves out the dot, to make more sales profit.  I have also seen 3 china rectifier diodes with band at wrong end. Meyer inductors used resistance type magnet wire, not copper.   The Meyer cell circuit may use a low freq diode on high freq , and use over voltage to blow through for reverse flow electrons, like zener type. The very large stud/ semiconductor does not heat up with ma current. Heat is what damages diodes. What do you think. See stud data sheet VS-70HFR160. Anode stud /cathode stud.  Final  AC for heated water heat source with diode, + coupled inductors, +diode control for HHO, by USAGE of  separate inductors  - separate cores.  Heat or gases output.. Forward transformer dots and flyback transformer dots, with either positive output or negative output.  Then later on,  electron extraction from oxygen ions .

The Hydrostar design is offshute of the fantastic Meyer process. Chambers FLED to Canada after Meyer was poisoned in Ohio. He was chief technician for Meyer. Employees have to sign document that all designs he comes up with belongs to the company water Fuel Cell. The Hydrostar Patent shows magnetic field increasing energy of rising fuel ions from water solution. The Meyer cell had none of that. You can infer then, what happened to Meyer and why.
General Patents don't disclose all pertinent data. Don't think they do.
The best described US Patent I found was the Horvath Patent 3980053. (1of his 3) Car engine runs on 40 amps draw to circuit with alternator recharging battery. Improved electrolysis of water for Hydrogen fuel with high frequency + magnetic field for pulsing DC current. Misspelled words and minor errors found, but complete. Cell voltage was 30 volts pulsing DC at about 200 pulse amps. System is just a beefed up capacitor discharge power supply at 600watts.
You should already know about forming hydrogen from water using 2 magnets. PVC T fitting, N + S magnets , 2 steel bolts, duct tape, vinegar water put in center T. See bubbles hydrogen form immediately from fields pulling apart molecules of water to gases. You have to have an interest in a field to get data.

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Nathren talks about use of the "magic relays" as associated with the 400Watt Inverter DC output to spark plugs. The car engines, - 4, 6, and 8cyl engines all use one dual coils relay per cylinder. Sealed Bakelite relay is under vacuum with many sets of internal contacts.  It has to do with interference with timing of ground connections under use. I originally thought it had to do with generation of 100v back EMF to add to system. Now of course, it means the original circuit diagram was wrong, - needs full wave DC 110v not half wave DC of 35v DC.

 Porous Aluminum Electrodes!

The vertical circular discs stack is perforated and is all aluminum electrodes. 1/2 plus + 1/2 minus 12v DC, separated by plastic insulated rings. The electrolysis Patented cell by Archie Blue in New Zealand was tested on 3 cars running on water to Hydrogen gas fuel of 40 amps power draw . (self running engine with alternator) The disc holes are staggered , so as the air crosses the whole surface and does a "clean sweep" of the stuck fuel ions, so they all go upward FASTER. He injected small air pressure at bottom of water cell from mattress pump. Engine speed adjusted with variable resistor. It was also stated, later, about Nitrogen Hydroxide being present as another fuel aid. The N ion from common air 78%, combines only in a solution with electrical charges present. The IMPROVED common electrolysis cell with electrolyte was tested on 3 cars after the US Patent came out. He was retired from new Zealand company where he had improved the efficiency of huge vats of electrolyte for electroplating of scissors. The output of hydrogen generator has to go to a safety water can with pop off valve first, before hose goes to the engine carb. The small type engines use a "spud in jet "copper tube at venturi point.