Tom Ogle was shot. The Popular Mechanics magazine also had a chapter on him way back when. Many years after, I tried to duplicate his system with VW engine in a wheelbarrow. The jet holes in main VW carb were all sealed with plugs, or solder, except the accelerator pump diaphragm. I made a TEMPORARY ONLY carb, just for an initial test. The house used to have the cabinet looking old style house humidifier with rotating drum covered with large sponge dunking in the large water tank. When rotating out of the water, a fan blew air through the material and out through top vents into the room. I made a carb like that, and was similar to the one by Ogle. A hot air hair dryer blew air into porous material rotating in a small gasoline chamber. A CLEAR hose hooked to the top of VW carb, while a hand drill was used to rotate the engine crankshaft. Mechanical Pulses of the accelerator diaphragm allowed a small amount of gas into the engine for start. When running, the engine only uses vapors when vacuum pulled in the heated gas fumes. The carb was in 2 halves held by duct tape , so as it could pop apart easily, for some safety. I knew the conversion would work, but was actually amazed to see GRAY FUMES through the clear hose, pulled into the engine. A white tissue on the exhaust pipe was always clean. I had studied the 2-3 Patents by Charles Pogue of Canada. There are many gas fumes carburetor designs and Patents to read on same. In the olden days , such as the 150-200 miles per gallon carburetor, the formulation of gasoline was way different. A full conversion modern carb does not run on vapors with our gasoline. It's called light ends and heavy ends chemicals. The engine bogs down and quits when carb is all gummed up. The price of gasoline always goes up, or is rationed, such as in 1974. The engine manufacturers changed to fuel injection to keep people away from tinkering with old style carburetor. I gave up on that subject and now only interested in Hydrogen gas, and methods of improved efficiency of generation.
I also showed a few people another conversion I did for a couple of weeks on a 1974 AMC Gremlin. It was called gas cap gas saver. The inventor had passed away, but the wife sent a folder of photocopies of his data. Purchased used gas cap from junkyard. I drilled a center hole to mount brass fittings on both sides. The finished unit was removed before going to gas station. There was a hose on inside that went down into gas tank. The outer cap had a one way spring valve to let in air by vacuum. The existing tubing underneath car ran to the charcoal canister and up to the engine. I mounted a brass adjustable on/off valve with CLEAR hose to intake manifold. The Carter carb had IDLE jet screwed in tight closed off. After engine start with the pressed diaphragm, the engine would only run on vapors from the tank. That was ok for a stationary engine, but not for the road. I showed that set up to several people as a lark, but after that no one was interested. You see, the air was pulled into tank hose by engine adjusted vacuum, and caused liquid fuel to bubble upwards with gas laden air above the liquid, which the fumes were pulled all the way forward to the car engine. Engine would shut right off when clear hose was hand pinched.
I tried another hand made gas saver for single barrel Gremlin carb engine. It was called under carb flutter wheel. The shaft was in between thick carb gaskets. The 2 thin steel plates were brazed onto a brass tube on the rod. Sharp saw teeth edges at both ends were made . This would spin easily in your hand and when mounted on the engine, you could drive with better efficiency. I was driving all the way through town to driveway with no foot on the accelerator pedal. I would lower the driver's window and turn off engine. You could hear the spinner whining down its rpms. You see, there was a better mixing of the air and gasoline BEFORE entering the intake manifold.
Another two gas savers were tested that did work as water injector and steam injector. Both increased mpg by 11%. J C Whitney sold the steam unit to attach to engine. Their kit rusted out my air cleaner and had to be replaced. I looked up the original Berger gas saver U.S. Patent and found out the hose was to be connected to intake manifold, - not the air cleaner as in the instruction sheet of Berger gas saver. You have to do the research first, before jumping in to something. The new adjustable vacuum 12v switch is now $42. The old foreign cars in junk yard have them mounted on fender or firewall , and very cheap for several purchased.
Americans don't believe anything unless you show them. I showed a few others how to make quarry fish come out of the water and take a worm out of your hand. Lay down on the dock wear polarized sunglasses, and hold out your hand to see rock bass, crappies, sun fish, etc. They show up and grab the worm, and dive back down. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
There is also the research work of Dan Danforth from Sri Lanka. A folder on market years ago called Resource File Danforth Hydrogen Generator Plans., by David French - French Research The electronic circuit allowed flyback high volts to generate Hydrogen gas fuel , from water and somewhat similar to the Meyer cell, that he had also studied. 1500 volts is the minimum required for molecular ringing to begin.
Guido Franch stole the formula for coal powder to alcohol from his roommate,- a German chemist immigrant from WW2. When the German died, he offered formula for sale to 2 large US companies. They didn't pay the Millions of dollars. . Back at that time period of 1935, the final cost would have been 5 cents per gallon of the final alcohol. Several types of engines were ran on the alcohol. (Motorcycle, tractor, cars, truck, lawn mower, etc.) The bench set up was about nitric and sulfuric acid mixed with fine coal powder , and silver compound used in photography. The heated mixture formed greenish/blue material on upper surface. The material is scraped off and dried into a CATALYST powder. It was photosensitive and must be kept in dark container. One teaspoon of the greenish/blue powder was added to gallon of water. The container has bubbles release, and when settled, can be used as cheap alcohol fuel for engines.
You guys should be watching the 1949 comedy movie that's REALLY BASED on this earlier true story invention. It had 3 names, but the final was - "Free For All" with Bob Cummings 1949. Man shows 2 demonstrations - pill in water makes cheap fuel running engines, and is chased by oil company executives. The movie may be on Youtube video. I purchased 2 copies as being one of my favorites. Don't forget to watch this! See also the movie called "The Water Engine" - a dark drama to influence people away from alternate energy Hydrogen.
The Bergstresser spark firing time delay coil , 1976 Patent 3939814, .8 ohm, 178uh inductance, can be built from the instructions in U.S. Patent on section of pvc pipe and 2 end caps with magnet wire, electrical tape and plastic tie wraps. My unit was built, but not tested awhile back in time. Many US Patents can be downloaded from Internet by number for study. Engines running on fast firing Hydrogen gas require late degrees timing ATDC.
40 new laws of Vibrational Physics written up in late 1800's by John W. Keely,- researcher and Inventor. Vibrations applied to masses in frequency resonance and in certain ratios inharmonics , can control the forces of nature. Has anyone studied this recently? Lots of literature available. The summery of his 3 final books was called the Snell Manuscript. Other data in books such as Dashed Against The Rock, Keely and his discoveries, Free energy pioneer, back issues Scientific American Magazine, and many others. Tuning forks matrix and chladni plate sand wave form patterns were noticed.There are picture books of his machines made in his 2 floor work shop in Philadelphia Pa. Five million dollar business , The Keely Motor Company, 1865-1899. See lectures of Mr. Pond of S.V.P. He also distributes literature for sale. I was originally interested way back in time , when I found out Keely could make Hydrogen gas from water , easily with his vibrations only applied . He had also used thermocouples and thermopiles wires of silver, gold and platinum to carry the frequencies exact as needed. Signed documents were made when visitors and engineers present had seen a 2 ton steel sphere tank lifted up in air, and placed on strong stand by using tuning forks matrix, and the thin wires and initial tapping of tank with dual tuning forks bar. Keely had reported selling one of his inventions to a western company. They wanted an easier way than pic axe to be able to get into wall of cave tunnels to search for gold. The small machine was attached to wall and then began to crack and crumble down. Keely's Patent on file was for a dual use flywheel. His upstairs rotating spoked wheel machine was called The Great Keely Motor. He incorporated the flywheel in his model. His vertical pulse resonance water flap pump, could lift water to extremely high levels, better than contemporary water pumps. I was amazed to read about the bench test of sealed brass hollow globe with ambient air. The certain vibrations applied would cause the mounted gauge to reduce down from zero, and go into vacuum state. (condensing of molecules) The 1800's Gauge was an open mercury bath Manometer with U shape tube.. Seems to me this technique could improve the modern Cold Fusion experiments of Platinum and deuterium heavy water for creating extreme HEAT!.
Unusual Alternate Energy Designs Noted From The Past
Information has been provided for the ONLY purpose to enlighten others of data they may have missed over time, and may be interested in looking into them further. A Vortex Tube use of hot air end can greatly increase air PRESSURE in insulated chamber going to a air extension cylinder , to keep a shaft turning with balanced spoked flywheel. Lots of devices are made and shown that don't make it to public market. There are over 100 US Patents on just one subject matter of water saving techniques for our common toilet tank. (A free plastic jug of water takes up the space in back of toilet tank when placed inside, no money expended) You have the perfect right to not believe in over unity - greater than 100% efficiency, or methodologies that greatly improve use of a standard technology design. The word invention means something not seen or heard of before that everyone else has NO reference to, and therefore don't believe it. The Engineering Degree on wall plaque is based on dated earlier known facts to be taught forward in time without improvements.The other term is - N I H, not invented here. Firm down the street adds parts that greatly increases efficiency of their motor design. The longer standing, similar other firm manufacturer of motors wants to keep their own design the same as being less efficient and continue selling it. They completely refuse to pay $$$Royalty fees to implement that new circuit to the existing selling motors. Mr. Zubris filed US Patent on capacitor circuit that greatly extends miles range of electric cars. He sells personal use of circuit for home made electric car or motorcycle for $100. The car manufacturers refuses his design. N I H Nathren, as part of group of technicians in 2008 Georgia developing the engine spark plug electrolysis to Hydrogen fuel technology had been put in jail years back. I doubt it had to do with improper computer downloads. Another technician who converted is car to run on Nitrogen Hydroxide and Hydrogen gas had died in prison. False claims of murder were applied. Dan Danforth of Sri lanka technician disappeared after his public demonstration of car running on high efficient Hydrogen Generator. Stan Meyer of the over unity Voltrolisis hydrogen Generator cell was poisoned at restaurant , etc. Meyer Process was at 3 levels for Hydrogen Generator. Why can't you study the first level called,- Proof Of Design" before making negative comments. The Patents are in public domain. You can do a 1st level bench test for your self. (Extremely fine upward flowing gas bubbles to foam with low low current and HIGH VOLTAGE) Seek And Ye Shall Find.
Many years ago, there was page article in alternate energy magazine with drawing of spiral vortex dual 110v AC transformers that would provide higher wattage on output. (You know about the tornado effect) The unit was tested on refrigerator with proper meters and power factor. Also the best wind mill generator design was the US Patented "Tornado Turbine"
, Also the late Mr. Baumgartner demonstrated a simple hover plywood platform lifting effect with small wattage train motor rewired in series for speed, and vortex spinning vanes. He had used computer program to design the natural log spiral for control of the ETHER. It was shown lifting him in a room and then later, the front end of the city bus. Why can't anything be purchased?
Alexander US Patent 3913004 1975 -- The technique of rotation with transformer effect (double wires on rotor) as in the above Patent method to increase energy, allowed inventor to make self running car with 4 air motors at wheels with air tank, battery , alternator, and modified military motor/generator with excessive output torque free energy to run main air compressor.
The Stan Meyer Patented ionized Hydrogen gas H+H+O-- generator is way over unity (not electrolysis) and usable, since the Patents time has ran out. He drove around his modified VW engine on dune buggy. That third level system was water injectors type with electrical controller. - More complicated than the earlier, usable, large water cell type that contained circular SS pipes.in distilled water, for Voltrolosis.
In 1980's New York there was a self running air compressor with no battery or motor. The main shaft had journal with air cylinder that had higher pressure coming from inherent vortex tube higher pressure than 40lb tank + insulated heat chamber. Unit had spoked, balanced, heavy rim steel flywheel. Flywheel was hand turned, then released at 40lbs in tank. The Vortex Tube had 3 machined parts from 3 separate work machine shops, so as final design as put together would not be known. Inventor was mowing lawn outside trailer with long air hose hooked to tank. The interested Company reneged on the $3 million dollars wanted after 1 year. I saw this unit myself way back when. The retired elderly carpenter in the trailer complex in Bath N.Y., was legally changing ownership of system to his son. He was also ordering replacement, better quality bearings. The Democrat newspaper had an article on him.
John W. Keely had shown demonstrations in 1890's Phil. Pa, of lifting effect (no gravity) with resonance frequencies and harmonic ratios using array of tuning forks and multiplication of higher vibrations on heavy metal spheres .His "transmitter wires" of gold, platinum + silver, are now called thermocouples and thermopiles. Witnessed by engineers, newspaper men, and investors at that time. Tesla didn't like Keely since Keely got more investor's money than he did.
S1R9A9M9 (Nathren) of 2008 videos showed Briggs 18HP mower engine self running overunity with electrolyte water in carburetor. Hydrogen gas electrolysis at spark plug with also water vapor pressure generated same time at neg 34 degrees ATDC. Magnetic field coil - called triple coils assy, over plug wire extends firing time for more contact with water. EGR improves performance. Alternator under flywheel provides constant 10 amps after battery was disconnected. Web site shut down. Special vacuumed sealed dual 1.75MH coils relay per cylinder also used for time spark extension. His 1978 V8 El Camino tooled around town at 18 MPG water, until locked up in a security garage.
You don't know about specialized information because you want data dropped in your lap, rather than doing your own science research yourself and finding out what others have already done. Back issues of alternate energies magazines, documents you have to purchase, and published data on Internet YOU have to search for. See DVD VHS movies The Water Engine and 1949 Free For All .
I remember reading , way back in time, about the electrostatic spray on coating for Meyer's set of SS electrodes - matching use surfaces only.. He had tested various forms such as flat plates, tall concentric single tube set, and shorter sets of multiple concentric tubes. Efficiency changed with the form.being bench tested. I will check my files on Meyer cell for further data. He may have used the coating on just certain designs.
Read the US Patents by Meyer, and his 2 BOOKS! . It is stated that the voltrolysis electrode concentric tubes have a premade coating installed first, so as there is greater resistance through the water. The polarization still works. Also Meyer did not use standard insulated copper magnet wire on the ferrite transformer secondary side. It was RESISTANCE type wire from off a special reel , so as the end circuit has much higher resistance. The metal pipes are also special type stainless steel, so as no contaminants get into the water. (not 302). You cannot make judgements calls from off of the top of your head, without studying the tech documents.That, of course, means to spend money for some of them. Others are actually on the Internet to read for free.
He was putting very high STRESS on the molecular bonds of molecules, until instantly they EASILY fall apart. Primary and secondary transformer fires for a lowered pulse voltage, then SHUTS OFF, the flyback effect fires higher than 1500volts to separate water molecules to EXTREMELY fine bubbles + foam -flowing upward. If you see just small bubbles , that's only H2 and O2. If large bubbles are seen, that's only water vapor. If any heat is noticed, that's is also NOT A Meyer cell for the Patented name Thermo Explosive Energy.
The Stan Meyer Patents refer to new technology, without any electrolysis at all.You have to study the literature from Ohio. Books- the birth of new technology, and Water Fuel Cell company Manual. They also list the Patents by number for study. 3 seconds on one amp TRANSFORMER PRIMARY, then secondary lower high volts to high ohms resistance cell as used ONLY for polarity alignment of water molecules. Then 7 seconds off. (pulsed burst mode) During off time, flyback WAY high volts hits > than 1500volts PRESSURE that pops apart the water molecules easily to ionized atoms as H+ H+ O- - . (more energy than H2 + O2.) The more complicated later final circuit uses laser light to excite the outer Oxygen orbital electrons to further outer level, , and then can be removed by wire flow, to make an even more unstable content gases that can be fired as usual in engine for greater energy output or in blast furnace. (over unity) This state then,NAME of fuel- is company Patented and is called Thermo Explosive Energy.. The L inductors and Cap of plain water cell resonates at same frequency of input high frequency ferrite transformer initiator. The concentric tubes also slightly vibrate. The higher resistance of water, the more gases evolve. Three levels of design of hydrogen generator.
There was talk way back in time of the sale of large volume of units sold to US government for warehouse storage, until the oil supplies started to run out for energy for the US.
See also data regarding fluid level sensors for industrial plant of large liquid vats. They use capacitance of liquid and frequency resonance to determine inside fluid level.
The tv episode Mythbusters - called "Exploding Pants" is purchasable, and is about running a car engine on vertical water cell hooked to the carburetor, was a deliberate NEGATIVE set up. I counted 14 built in mistakes to not allow engine to run on hydrogen. The electrical circuit that was to be used was really called "The Hydrostar". The complete original design is on Internet for sale. I have paper manual , but it's now being sold as a computer disc. Mythbusters did not use proper design, nor did they implement the required magnetic wire coil. Even gas engines use air as part of the blend. Their carb was completely closed off. Real usable energy related material will never be shown on tv, local newspaper or on radio general news. You have to your own research and see what others have already done. The man who designed Hydrostar was one of Stan Meyer's technicians in Ohio before Meyer was poisoned . Chambers went to Canada and filed Canadian + US Patent on modified version of Meyer's work. His Xogen company had showed a display of HIS unit for publicity. The magnetic field energizes the rising ions in solution and increases energy content. Circular concentric pipe electrodes are superior to flat plate electrodes. Pulse quick current only for ALIGNMENT of water molecules polarity. Then pipes hit with high voltage DC pulses for way overunity hydrogen and oxygen gas. (No electrolysis at all)- that's old technology as of now. The Patent pages don't state it but, if flipping drawings pages back + forth , you can see it's easily done as connecting the wires of pipes to the resultant flyback high voltage coming from the wire coil. !! Hydrostar US Patent 6126794 by Chambers as studied and read for free on Internet.
Generated with regular low efficiency electrolysis ,when neutral air is pumped under the ions solution of electrolyte. Used in the Outback by Australian solders returning from WW2. They brought the data back with them after finding the Germans were experimenting with vehicle engines in motor pools. With no power lines in the back lands, the engines powering the generators would self run on this increased energy content fuel gases. Check it out. Nitrogen Hydroxide as an aid for Hydrogen + Oxygen water cells.
Archie Blue, retired engineer of New Zealand factory for electroplating of scissors, had, in the past, US Patent on discs cell of porous aluminum electrodes electrolysis cell with air pumped in from bottom. Dual type fuel gases evolve with the other increased efficiency of "clean sweep". Some of the neutral air wipes the stuck ions clean off , so as the maximum efficiency is achieved. He converted 3 cars to self run on water.40 amps draw from battery, alternator recharges.
Specs for Tesla Coil secondary , and circuit specifically for 1.3MHtz?
During 1940's WW2, Hungarian scientist emigrated to US to keep his invention from the German Nazi war machine. After several years, he revealed data about his conversion of prop plane engine to run on water tank. Steam generator from exhaust heat formed vapors in chamber with SS screens for electrodes. Certain setting Tesla coil was applied , so as efficient hydrogen and oxygen fuel gases were generated and operated the engine. Is there someone knowledgeable to design circuit and parts for high voltage Mhtz oscillator ? Is quarter wave secondary coil necessary? Narrow, short, gray type high temperature PVC tube with #30 magnet wire, for about 15KV. See- The Hefferlin manuscript. On line , or back issue Sept 1946 Amazing Stories Magazine.
A US Patent issued costs thousands of dollars by the applicant. It contains data and electrical schematic of GENERALIZATION only.The whole and accurate wiring lines hook ups are never there, except for the Horvath Patent- which has 1 1/2 pages proofreading errors only. The claims list involved never states over unity or free energy. If highly interested, you have to do research on the applicants involved and see their manuscript and related technical data, FOR THEIR CLAIMS, not put in the original Patent application.There is usually some data available.
As for example the Jackson Water Burner was Patent about high pressure 90lbs, high temperature 1500 degrees steam through tiny oil nozzle to ambient air that transforms to hydrogen torch in highly insulated oil furnace chamber. What wasn't noted in Patent, was that magnetic field poles must be involved, pulling on the highly agitated, volatile,water molecules electron orbitals to change the angle in degrees on H and H to the Oxygen atom . (more vulnerable to separation.) I read most of their manuscript. The US soldiers from 1950, furnace running on water line 100%, after starting on oil, received only stated in Patent as 50% allowed increase in efficiency.
Same thing with the Hydrostar Patent by Chambers. The included schematic does NOT SHOW wiring of the available high voltage back EMF from wire inductor coil, to be applied to the electrode SS pipes in water cell. Patent reference was only 25% increase in efficiency allowed. The ONLY ALLOWED build parts manual ended with same only. He had earlier worked for Meyer of Water Fuel Cell in Ohio, and was fully aware of Meyer's work of over unity Hydrogen generator called Voltrolysis. Meyer's Patents time have ran out and are in public domain. Others are attempting to build his cell.
Most people have not spent the time + effort in studying an electrical topic. You missed the point. The Briggs one cylinder engine has preset timing at factory at T.D.C. The use of Hydrogen gas as fuel requires change to late timing ATDC. The 3 wires coil called the S1R9A9M9 forms magnetic field over the PLUG WIRE , so as causing extension of time of original spark as to neg 34 degrees. This was explained many times in my past statements. Readers have to grasp this. In the 2 videos of 2008, the battery supplied power for the conversion circuit to START ONLY, until up to idle speed. Then the self running alternator provided about 15 amps to run inverter box and the electromagnet. Spark plug electrolysis and some minor water vapor as pressure. The vapor forms because of the downward piston in state as lowered compression and VOLATILE vapor. (Vacuum area) It gets polarized charge and molecules repel each other as pressure generated. Data was later shut down on web forum due to others getting hurt attempting replications. . Got it now?
The Capacitor 70 circuit set up was poor, as running high volts through the low volts bridge rectifier, no reference to step up of volts as with turns ratio, no part number exact for ferrite piece, and no general information to get the transformer working. He said there was electrical isolation, - but not with the bridge. I had assumed an increase in ignition volts, but not there.His motorcycle engine running on water had melting solder on the whole diodes bank. . The transformer was to eliminate diodes. That was not an established technician, just a common low quality tinkerer.
On another note,.....The Briggs brand lawn mower ignition coils have one for a 2 cyl. engine. Those engines DO use either 1 or 2 ignition coils for twin cylinders. I found out , that the dual cables type, single Magnetron coil, is NOT An "autotransformer." The autotransformer has 3 terminals only. The special dual cables type Magnetron has no connection to the PRIMARY side. THEREFORE, 4 TERMINALS SEPARATE. You can put one secondary cable to ground and then get FULL POSITIVE HIGH VOLTS OUT! This is a pulse output circuit, not an AC circuit. Conversion fuel circuits wotk better using positive high volts through spark plug to negative ground.
Steve, -- The mower ignition coil has a lower high voltage output than car engines. I was collecting data on various means to increase this. The unusual modification of upside down old style armature magneto, (not magnetron), allows for positive high volts , but at a lowered level, since they are all type called autotransformer, with 3 terminals. I noticed on the modern Harley motorcycles the ignition coil was different. I purchased one $50, and examined it. The transformer secondary side is not connected to anything. Later, I found out the Briggs dual spark plug engines have either single or dual ignition Magnetrons. I purchased samples of the one with dual cables. One side cylinder fires negative high volts, and the other fires positive high volts. This is the best method to obtain positive only high volts ignition., at highest volts.without loss. One side hooks to ground. Back in 2008, there was a circuit on Internet called the capacitor70 circuit for several purposes. I had the idea this was incorporated in the set up of 2008 You tube videos called S1R9A9M9 to enhance the process of running mower engine on water to hydrogen and electrified water vapor pressure as polarized molecules repulsion, pushing piston. The Cap70 circuit is similar to a C.D.I with PF capacitors firing separate primary of step up FERRITE TOROID transformer to increase high volts of car/ mower engine. Ferrite can saturate and has to be designed properly. Ignition is very low current flow and low duty cycle, and core should work. This also isolates the grounds of ignition and added power supply. The circuit however allows high volts to go through the low volts full wave rectifier to get to the spark plug. Not a good idea. I suspected circuit was used in the S1R9A9M9 successful video demonstrations. 2 people indicated it worked. I am presently hooking up to try this on parts and UU ferrite core set mounted on wooden board. U cores are easier to wind, and have the same proper full contained flux path., not like open rod core. 500-1000PF , several caps in series with total voltage tolerance and ferrite core 1:3 step up windings. Resonance of L + C high frequency runs secondary side wound with #16 gauge ignition cable. Experimenters have to keep the grounds separate of the Inverter + ignition, and battery ground. I did a lot of study research before buying parts. Minimum 24KV and pulse peak 7 amps required ,- not average amps.
The only way to increase the high volts of lawnmower Magnetron ignition coil, is to bolt on another piece of laminations with a wire coil. The output of 1st secondary will be added to the next coil as an extension. The same magnetic flux is there, same time. There are differences in ignitions of the past . Some have higher secondary Henry inductance and ohms resistance, meaning there would be slightly higher output ignition volts. It is way less costly to experiment with small engines , but they need 24kv minimum for plasma path for amperage to pass, and must be in milliseconds time, not microseconds as in C D I. A much more involved method is a second, opposite pole magnet put on flywheel next to other one with an opposite balancing lead weight. The dual magnetos would make AC into primary of the "old" style plain transformer type ignition . The secondary side AC generated could then use the diode and capacitor voltage doubler. The STENS brand aftermarket trigger modules work with either polarity ignitions. 2 blocking diodes would also be needed. A man on You tube video tests his Biggs Magnetrons coils on bench with AC activated coils on old shaver laminations mounted next to the ignition laminations. The transposing magnetic flux runs the main ignition coil for spark. (trigger not tested)
Ok, so as of now, there are only about four questions left unanswered regarding the S1R9A9M9 wiring set up on the Briggs 18HP mower engine.
1.-- Why wasn't the same 400 Watt Inverter box used, as was on all the other many earlier car/tractor engine conversions? 110v AC with half wave or full wave rectification. Resistance in circuit is required for 10 amps. The spark plug electrolyte was about 10-22 ohms. There were MANY series diode voltage drops in the autos circuit schematic. The dual coils relay used per cylinder, in the cars, was about 1.2 ohms total of #21 gauge wire. Nathren said that it couldn't be used on mower engine ,as it came in at a frequency and would just bog down and shut off. If he tried to hook it up himself instead of the real technicians, then he didn't know what he was doing. The change over was then done with car 12v battery. -----Possibility as ,- an Inverter box will bog down exactly when the starter motor is turned on , while using the SAME battery. Over 50 amps draw will reduce initial battery volts that the Inverter needs. The earlier Georgia car engine conversions , all used a 2nd. accessory battery for the conversion circuits.
2.- Why did Nathren mention many times in his Forum that 100 volts and 10 amps was required to get an engine to start and run on water to hydrogen fuel gas. Did he, as ignorant, mean that he was talking about the 110v Inverter box? He also should have known that all the earlier engines were running on 6-7 amps per cylinder only ,as per the technicians. (garage oscilloscope and hand meters) Salt water Electrolyte at plug tips as about 10 ohms resistance.
3.-Why wasn't EGR applied on lawn mower engine for the 2 demonstrations of summer 2008. EGR with recirculated Nitrogen from exhaust smooths out the earlier engines tested idling RPMS. Adjustable valves were added for control on the cars.
4.- If the increased high voltage from the Capacitor70 circuit provided that proper Plasma Path to allow heavy amps transfer through spark plug, then what was the Bare 5 turns copper #12 gauge coil be used for in that S1R triple coils assembly? Was that needed too? (crossover leakage inductance voltage, I tested, (90-200v) After being miffed ,I then decided that what might have happened, is this,--- After the 2008 demonstrations were over, Nathren clipped off the ground wire that was hooked to the extension cord. That left a stub wire in the black electrical tape with frayed wires you can see in the graph paper photograph. Blow it up to see. He then unwound the proper parallel 7 turns from the secondary side and rewound them directly over the bare copper wire as a 90 degree wind. Now there is no transformer effect as no steel core underneath 7 turns. Do you agree? Nathren was attempting to hide the pertinent data from the public. The final photo as on the graph paper is the converted one as shown to the public. What do you think?
5.- Why didn't Nathren run the mower engine on just battery power continuously, with the addition of alternator voltage. There are 2 halves of alternator with (2) AC outputs. Battery was used for starter motor and initial circuit start up circuit, so as engine was idling at lower RPM. Battery was completely removed for some reason. (Besides the high volts being on the battery as danger, no safety) The alternator is just wires with rectifier pulses. The extra wire on the starter terminal, going around back of engine, also ran the main circuit when the red positive battery cable clip touched it. Maybe the technicians wanted mower engine to also be self running, just like the V8 on engine stand in their shop running 24 hours-7days, with large generator attached, and water line. - Free electricity for shop.
Another possible method to increase mower engine high voltage is to add a Hall effect sensor circuit that senses the North pole field of the flywheel rotating magnet near the magnetron, and use the output pulse to turn on Mosfet for 12 volts dc to go to the tab terminal on the engine coil. That terminal is connected to primary, and is normally used to shut off the mower engine by the ground connection. Insertion of FAST12 volts superimposed on the 5-8v from magnet would increase the back EMF generated, higher than -130v, so that the secondary side gets higher, high volts output. A unipolar Hall, 3 pins, on the small board would have the leads bent u shaped so that the hall head faces backwards. This would allow the North pole to turn on the switch. After magnet passes by, the circuit shuts off. Mosfet power switch is way faster than a small relay to allow battery volts on to the Primary coil. A 3 ohm resistor would be put in series with the .2 ohm primary coil, so as about 4 amps flows, higher than the usual 3 amps.of primary ignition on a Briggs lawnmower engine. It was assumed that 24000 volts is required for the engine conversion, along with the equal or greater than 100volts cross leakage induction volts to push 6 amps through the spark plug water cell of about 23ohms, to get the hydrogen fuel and water vapor pressure at retarded timing -34degrees.