Newguy

what i'd like to see is something without a pernament magnet envolved....there is no pernament magnet in my video.

Wait till this thing fires up again
In the spirit of Herman Anderson.... doing it just to prove it will work

i would suggest you to try a smaller device... rain water with an electrolyte that is magnetic

i think your gap is very wide...

With this system my gap is 2 small.Hermans gap was 3 inches.That was in part a thing with that test...Herman said if your gap was to small it would roll around in there like a tornado and not do anything....basically that's what I was showing...it was rolling around in there and not making any gas.Maybe a bigger point was getting it to roll around in there
The view in my video was looking straight down into the top of it.
It actually makes me want to go back and look into W.I.T. water ion technologies.Ther gap was 18  inches.They however did play a role in deciding to go with a thicker electrode on one end.

What im wandering is if the same effect happens with the coils off of the electrode...know wat i mean?
It would be like with the tube cell wire the 2 tubes together to in effect create 1 electrode with a gap between it...add another or sit them 2 on top of a metal disk with an insulator between them and use the bottom disc as the anode.
Hook your charging chokes up together (one opposite wound to the other) one lead to the tubes and the other lead to ground.
The disk underneath is the positive.
What i think in Hermans case to try is use really heave gauge wire and air core....next test
Herman.....hmmmm......instead of hooking one end of the coil directly.....ive got to think about this a minute.Ive had this thing for nearly 10 years,maybe ill get to fire it up part# 29625(67,000V)

pretty interesting.. if i understood right it is exactly what have thought about recently about propagating the magnetic flux to the cell..

i like to see how those bubbles get attracted to the distant electrode..

Those bigger bubbles going to the left coming from the anode at the bottom....i wanted to be able to vary the distance but it didnt work out with that cell.
Soon as i can get some good water ill figure out a few things.
the main thing I learn from this is what it takes to make it " roll around in there "
It is interesting tho how both sides of that cell are going to ground that those particular bubbles are attracted to the thinner electrode.

Its 2am here...ill go out and video it at day break.Id like to here some thoughts or expectations ....its a baby step and not im sure this configuration is the simplest yet but i think its correct....the thing is its not what i was expecting BUT  it fits Hermans description perfectly i believe at least with the tornado.
It dont seem to work if i change the electrodes polarity so....its a baby step.
What i can demonstrate are those 2 effects...the tornado and increase in gas production.
My test rig power supply is only 1 amp at 15 volts but it demonstrates i do believe

have you seen the tornado and the difference in speed?
I can demonstrate both but....Id really like to hear a couple thoughts of at least the tornadoe effect....
Its not what i was expecting

ref 8 http://d-nb.info/971264848/04

around this frequency my water sing... (sound comes out of it)

just an index list ?....ya have the rest of that doc to share?

COOL find X-blade....

If you run into that newly discovered relaxation process document ...throw it in here too
I can find some literature on it with core ionization, but nothing mentioning a frequency yet.
A proton transfer process they've missed for a while I guess....
If we could transfer those 4 out of lead....I'd go on vacation

https://www.helmholtz-berlin.de/forschung/oe/em/materialentwicklung/research/research-projects/icd_en.html

lots of follow ups in that doc u found .

I think it shouldnt be much longer till we completely understand the magnetics of his system....ive watched his interview so much to almost memorizing everything he said.

i read somewere that Anderson was venting the oxygen into the cars interieur.....
Was is that right?

He mentioned it in the interview but it seemed like it was just something he was considering or hoping.with the top he had on it there would be no way.the top he had on his cell was part of a kitchen sink plumbing part....check it out at walmart or wherever....there was no way he was seperating the gas with that top....pluss he used a speciality designed, pressurized  ozonated water generator.
You can ozonate water to the point of looking like a cloud and steaming.

Not that Im aware of...Herman did say you couldnt have one between the plates but up there referring to above the water line.
The top that Herman used has a baffle in it....there also was a huge hose going in pushing something thru the top (air,fog..??)
If he had some kind of slosh prevente it would have been on the outgoing side under the baffle part of thst top.
James did say that the cell after removing from the car had been leaking...the KOH had found its way out and had formed solid crystal like stuff streaming down...like a cave thing
Id bout bet he had some kind of slosh protector in the top .
My personal opinion and wat im fixing is a gas output from the standing pipe.The hole in the top of mine will be plugged and used only to add more KOH.

That's coob Seb, I havent done anything since my wire arived....im glad i didnt use it yet for my inductors...according to most that have posted the  inductance of those washer drain pump coils are 150mH and they are wired in serries ....i need those as a salvage part in my efforts in using off the shelf parts in my quest....im really liking the thought of a mechanical oscillator now

still dongt know who is this...

i think nobody understood my bad english hahaha

yea kinda hard to understand what youre saying.....

It seems like you said at certain frequencies with 12v pulsed dc square wave you get a graph that shows a 7hZ sinewave that doesnt cross zero but approaches zero.
At some frequency you pull a few amps and make some gas in a sealed single tube cell with some amount of KOH and polished electrodes.
It appears to absorb a 7hZ current from something other than your pulse frquency.....

Hard to make anything out of it....im glad you decided to use a little KOH and at least make some gas....to many people forget what the purpose of the circuit is....MAKE GAS
If we could all get the point of actually burnning the gas we would have some interesting things to discuss.

Yea leach has a sphere system patent with lasers and steam....i was watching a guy on you tube last night using a washer drain pump as an pure tone oscillator. ... im looking into an oscillator like that now ....i thought was a cool way to generate pure tone variable frequency

that 27.2 volts is simply the 2 electrons of a hydrogen gas molecule added together aint it?.....its not the same with the different ion species youre dealing with in your WFC.
If its a single hydrogen atom then you already know its 13.6 eV.....thats a distance.....i guess thats what youre getting at.....it takes 13.6 electron potential(eV) to be at a distance where there is no attraction.
The dynamic force of the rippling(oscillating) current is where the frequency needs to match the 1/4 wavelength or multiple of the cavity aint it? Or does it need to match a multiple of a wavelength of of those photons down yander...
There is a photon that matches both the oxygen and the proton in a really narrow bandwidth that might be worth a shot.........Im pretty sure it wasnt no whwere near 27eV tho.....i have that wrote down here somewhere if you want it

eh you may allready know this... here's what i have in some notes:
hydrogen : 397nM  INTENSITY =8
                                                } UV
oxygen:  397.3nM INTENSITY=450
O : 423.3 nM
H : 410.1 nM
H2O: 167nM

http://dev.physicslab.org/Document.aspx?doctype=3&filename=Electrostatics_ElectricFieldsVoltage.xml

please check this link and click on the answers for the exercises questions...

I like gauss's law better

Anyone have the time to explain the difference between planar and bipolar transistors functions in circuits?

the difference between a 2n1711 and a 2n3055 is what im wanting to know.

Everyone would need the same spacing a length of tubes to get the same results but being different could move forward faster but why doesnt anybody talk about their cell parameters? It just makes no sence to start winding coils without knowing your cell parameters and things....Bob was great at teaching that part to bring it into a common sense base even if youre not using plates or electrolyte ....no one talks about an idle current or anything...I think if you are going to give it a honest go ,establish a common sense base and standard ,understand what you are trying to do other than just duplicating a circuit with your cell to begin with....its why i say you should start with treating it like an electrolysis cell.

Xblade.Bob boice is a hoax,he might helped people but the end result is brute force electrolisis which we don't want.Ronnie helped a lot, posting  very usefull stuff that would take us mounts to figure it out.He worked 7 years on this ,experimenting on he's own, winding hundreds of coils burning lots of parts and magnet wire....do you want to put it on the table free for all just now so you can believe it.Right now he is helping he's team to have their cells working and when they all finish he would post the proof together with his team mates so there is will be no doubt.Then he would publish all free for all...

Bob isnt a hoax , helped me for a whole year starting at the end of his rev.B board...the beginning of rev.C.... I say that because I think that was at a time Mr.Boyce had decided to share again...he had to have been working on that a while.
I'd bet not to many people have seen this waveform with Bob's circuit, I have....on my own scope.The reason Ive drawn it is because my 2nd wife threw most everything I had away...even my laptop with the picture on it...
Whats so special about that waveform you may wander.... not just the fact it has similarities with Puharch ,you cant see it with the naked eye viewing your scope when the board is in tune.I took a dozen or so pictures with the board running,in tune and hooked up my scope probe and only 1 turned up with the rippled sqare wave. What you see in the second pic is what the naked eye seen on the scope screen to the best I can remember...I know that's not a perfect drawing but its close.The frequencies from left to right on the second pic were
10.7     21.4    42.8  They add together as it goes higher and for what ever reason showed up as a square wave with 3 specific ripples on top with that 1 picture.
There is in that fact there is more to Bobs circuit than meets the eye.