HMS-776

I've been trying to figure out the steam resonator used in the buggy.

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From the pic of the card it looks like resonance was used. (Lock in LED, Man Auto scanning switch etc)
However, the Tech Brief never mentions resonance with the steam resonator?
Anyone have a pic of the steam resonator card???
Does anyone here think resonance was or was not used? Why?


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The above picture contains the following:

-Transformer with 3 coils (6 wire ends)
-2 NPN transistors
-2 PNP transistors
-4 High watt resistors
-Bridge rectifier?
-Fuse

So if resonance was used the 3 coils are most likely 1 Primary coil, 1 secondary coil, and 1 pulse pickup coil
If resonance is not used perhaps there are 2 secondary coils. (perhaps to use what Meyer called 'Switchover' since there are 2 steam resonators in the buggy, 1 in the water tank, and 1 in the resonant cavity)

The primary coil appears to be connected to a bridge rectifier also...?

TonyW,

I tested the continuity of my insulated WFC today.

Before I applied power to the cell I measured continuity each way (got a beep both ways).
Then I connected a 12VDC power supply to the cell for a few seconds.
Then I disconnected the power supply and measured continuity once again and only got continuity (beep) when the polarity of my probes was
the same as the power supply which was previously connected.

I think this is simply due to polarization, and the electron collecting at the positive plate. Not sure how long it would take for the relaxation to occur but I'm guessing at that point continunity would show each way again.

Ok Tony,

Before you mentioned that the capacitor has all positive pulses at one side and all negative pulses at the other even though each plate is recieving AC that is 180 out of phase.

 I've been looking into that effect and one person on an EE forum told me that electrolytic capcitors may act like a rectifier if the current through them is restricted....So now that is all I've heard, just searching around trying to find more info on the phenemenon to see if it really exists.

In the mean time I should also say that I got my VIC matrix circuit multisim replication working again, but I need to do more testing to make sure it's a correct replication...I don't want to fill this forum up with disinfo. I am getting the pulse doubling effect from the out of phase AC at each choke. But as we know the water capacitor has some special effects which cannot be replicated, like ionization and incrneased voltage, and maybe even rectification? Also, even though the circuit is at resonance the current is not dropping as it should.

Oh wow, that's awesome.

Yeah the polarity switching is something I was really questioning myself over for that very reason.
What I want to understand now though is why the WFC does not generate heat when there is collision occuring,
How exactly does that differ from the WFC?

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The diagram above shows that each choke coil performs a different function.

The injector VIC has 2 choke coils even though the injector only has 1 connection which connects to the inner electrode, the outer electrode is grounded through the engine.

Tony, Don, and others have mentioned that the VIC resonance is between the positive choke and the cell, and that the negative choke has no effect on resonance. I mentioned in the first post that resonance is the self resonance of the coils, but I think the cell effects resonance because of the antiresonance phenemenon.

Ref: http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_2/chpt_6/5.html

So the question I have for everyone now is, what is the purpose of each choke coil and how are they behaving differently?
Stan explains them as performing different functions in the tech brief.

One thing I think is important here is the diode placement. It prevents the AC from the secondary from reaching the positive choke.

In the water the free electrons will also be the smallest particle, having the least mass, which means they will have the greatest velocity to perform collision ionization!

In one of Stephen Meyer's radio interviews he talked about how the electrons spiral around the wire as they move down the wire. The electrons on a positive conductor will spiral one way, and the electrons in a negative conductor will spiral in the opposite way.
Artinvegas said that Stan had theorized there would exist bidirectional vortexes within the cell which would rip the water mol apart.

It seems like the electrons play a bigger role than we thought previously. I guess as long as your not exchanging electrons then you can take advantage of the physical force of collision without using large amounts of power.

I found a good source for wire....I bought 1 pound heavy insulated 30AWG wire for 24$ at oemwire.com.

As for the core, still working on that one...Most ferrite core companies require a minimum order which is quite high so we need to get a bunch of people buying, but even more important is we need to find the right core material.

That is a rip,  I contacted a 3d printing company and they wanted about the same amount of money.

The good news is Russ Gries is selling them with the end caps
for 25$. It's where I got mine from.

 Get on his forums and send him a pm to see if he has any left.

Anyone found a good place to get those plastic bobbins made up?

A while back someone on this forum gave me some info on a guy who was printing them. I sent him a requenst to have some printed up but I have never heard back from him.

I sent the dimensions to a local plastic printing place and they want over 100$ for a set.

A while back I scoured the TB and control & driver circuits patent and came up with the following info:
Refer to Tech Brief Figures 3-2, 3-4, 3-5, 3-6 and Patent WO 92/07861
 
Circuit K1=Safety Control Circuit
Circuit K2=Variable Pulse Frequency Generator
Circuit K3=Gated Pulse Frequency Generator
Circuit K4=Cell Driver Circuit
Circuit K5=Voltage Intensifier Circuit
Circuit K6=?
Circuit K7=Laser Accelerator/Distributor Optoschmitt (Photodiode)
Circuit K8=Analog Voltage Generator
Cirucit K9=Voltage Amplitude Control
Circuit K10=Injector Circuit
Circuit K11=Acceleration Control Circuit
Cirucit K12=Laser Distributor
Circuit K13=Gas Injector Cirucit
Circuit K14=Pulse Indicator Circuit
Circuit K15=Gated Frequency Oscillator
Circuit K16=Dual Regulated Power Supply
Circuit K17=?
Circuit K18=?
Circuit K19=Exhaust & Air Gate Control Circuits
Circuit K20=Summing Circuits
Circuit K21=Phase Lock Loop Circuit
 
Card L1=Variable Pulse Frequency Generator (Circuit K2)
Card L2=?
Card L3=Gas Injector Card (Circuits K10, K13)
Card L4=Gated Pulse Frequency Generator (Circuit K3)
Card L5=Acceleration Card (Circuit K11)
Card L6=Dual Regulated Power Supply (Circuit K16)
Card L7=Gated Frequency Oscillator (Circuit K15)
Card L8=Laser Distributor Optoshmitts (photodiodes) (Circuits K7, K12)
Card L9=Safety Control Circuit (Circuit K1)
Card L10=Laser Accelerator Optoschmitts (photodiodes) (Circuits K7, K12)
Card L11=Analog Voltage Generator (Circuit K8)
Card L12=Voltage Intensifier Control (Circuits K4, K5, K9, K14, K21, and the EEC per Fig 3-2 Tech Brief)
 
 
I need help as the list is not complete. I have not determined what circuits K6, K17, and K18 are. I have not determined which circuits are on Card L2. And I have not determined which Card(s) the following circuits are on: K6, K17, K18, K19, K20.

 
I know of one cirucit for sure which is missing and it's probably K6, K17, or K18. That is the Gas Feedback Control Circuit (Figure 11) from the Control & Driver Circuits patent WO 92/07861

sebosfato,

I have been reading over your most recent posts and
It seems like we have come to the same conclusion as
To how the vic works. Have you had a successful replication?

Hi everyone. Sorry to jump in late in the game, I've been looking for everyone at Waterfuelcell.org, guess I was at the wrong site. Seems like all the action is giong on here.
 
The VIC card has several different circuits as mentioned earlier. Page 3-30, figure 3-5 in the TB shows the VIC card, labeled Card L2 and the different circuits which are on that card.
 
I think the electrostatic filter is being overlooked here. We know the water capacitor exhibits leakage which is dependant on the water's purity. I have a picture of Stan's buggy with the WFC setup where he labeled all the components, including the electrostatic filter. It is also mentioned in the Tech Breif. Furthermore, JL naudin states on his WFC replication page that his replication only worked with distilled water, which I think is because he had such a low current to charge the cap the leakage prevented it from charging when he used tap water.
 
Don,
 
I have seen the pictures of the WFC and Water Capacitor...Does the delrin sleeve completly cover the outer tube?
 
Does anyone have the primary inductance measurements of the VIC? ,And know what Fres is? I thought I read earlier that the VIC Fres was 10kHz??? Looking at the size of the core it seems like the VA rating is probably quite low...

Tad, you seem like your quite a few steps ahead of everyone else!

Why change the inductance though?

Why not just use fixed inductors and change the frequency using electronics like you mentioned.
I have heard of several people who have replicated the following circuit of Stan's and they have claimed that it worked. From what I understand the circuit is used for resonant frequency locking.

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Have you tried this circuit?

After a bit of study of JL Naudin's circuit, it seems quite easy to replicate the WFC on a small scale using a very simple circuit. This post is to help everyone better understand JL Naudin's replication, and to understand what type of circuit he used.

JL Naudin’s Water Fuel Cell replication is shown and explained on his website at: http://jnaudin.free.fr/wfc/index.htm

First, we see the video on his page showing the cell producing hydrogen-oxygen gas, and just above the video he states the following:
 
Note the video is version 1.0, which is using DISTILLED WATER.
 
He later insulated the capacitor, calling it version 1.1. However, he never stated that version 1.1 produced any gas. He does go on to show how this capacitor charges and discharges on the oscilloscope. He also shows the step charging of the version 1.1 capacitor.
 
On the website Naudin gives some information about the circuit which can be used to determine what kind of circuit it actually is.
  Note that the transformer used is a 220/12V transformer used in reverse. Thus the transformer has a step up turns ratio of 1:18.3. (12/220=18.3) On the first diagram (attached below) you can see the 30V power supply (circled in red). 30V applied to the primary coil would give us 550V at the secondary (30V X 18.3 = 550V).
 
On the second diagram (attached below) you can see the waveform peaks at 488V, not quite 550 due to losses.
 
On the third diagram (attached below) you can see the voltage peaks at 1,008V, nearly double the supply voltage of 550V.
 
So, in the circuit we have a water capacitor which charges to 2X the supply voltage. There is only 1 kind of series resonant circuit which charges a capacitor to 2X supply. The circuit used in Naudin's replication is a DC resonant charging circuit.
 In the DC resonant charging circuit the capacitor is charged to 2X supply because of the inductive collapse. The supply first charges the capacitor to the supply voltage, once this occurs the current stops flowing through the circuit (because the cap is charged) and inductive collapse forces more current to the capacitor which charges it to 2X the supply voltage. It takes many cycles for the cap to be charged to 2X supply, but once it reaches that point the voltage will not get any higher.

For more information on DC resonant charging see:http://www.richieburnett.co.uk/dcreschg.html

Although Naudin used a DC resonant charging circuit to replicate Meyer, the circuit Meyer used operated in a slightly different way. Naudin's replication has shown that a DC resonant charging circuit can be used to replicate Meyer on a small scale.
 
Hope Everyone Enjoyed this:
-HMS-776 

This is from a Stan Meyer document titled WFC public notice to inform, it explains the whole court case.
 
 

 
15. Plaitiffs unable to disprove WFC "Mode of Operability" of using water only.
 
On 18 October 1995, a pretrial depostion hearing to inspect the WFC Dealership demonstration units (Variable-plate Electrical Polarization Process (VIC) Fuel Cell and Rotary Pulse Voltage Frequecy Generator Tubular-Array Fuel Cell) was held in the office of the plaintiff's attorney, Robert Judkins. Present were the plaintiff's, their attorneys, plaintiffs expert witness, Michael Leverich(Electronics Engineer), Stan Meyer, Dr. Russel Fowler, WFC witness and defense attorneys Judge Roger Hurley and James Detling, as well as a deposition recorder. During the deposition, Attorney Judkins attempted to have the WFC dismantle (taken apart) prior to implementing proper test proceedures, which Stan Meyer refused. Michael Leverich confirmed that his initial measurements of the WFC Fuel Cells showed that it operated exactly as the WFC documentation stated it should, as so recorded on WFC Deposition Video Tape. However, he then added a unknown white substance(powder) for additional testing. Stan objected to this, since the WFC Fuel Cell uses plain tap water and does not require a chemical additive. The plaintiffs also admitted that, during their observances at WFC Dealship Seminars, tap water was always used without any chemicals added to the water. Forrest Harper alone attende over 30 Seminars. Despite Stan's objection, plaintiff measurements were taken of this chemicallized water-bath and recorded. This illegal act of tampering with WFC Evidence of Records was witnessed by WFC Cameraman, Dr. Russ Fowler, and all others who attended Plaintiffs Deposition To-Test.
 
16. Plaintiff Harper relative prevented to be presiding Judge. Plaintiff attorney, Coffman, supposedly secretary of the A55/A21 Schneider Investment Group, forced to withdraw as plaintiffs counsel due to conflict of interest.
 
 The first part of the trial started on Thursday/Friday, 1/2 February 1996 before Judge William Corzine III at the Common Pleas Court, Chillicothe, Ohio. WFC had requested a jury trial, but that was disapproved since the request was later than the 14 days allowed for such a request. A request for a change of venue to Franklin County, WFC's home county, had also been disapproved... which, being in opposition to Judicial Protocol in the fact that one of Harper's relatives was on the Judgeship of Feyette County Court District which included both Washington C.H., and Chillicothe, Ohio.
 
17. Plaintiffs counsel not able to disprove WFC Documents of Evidence as so established by independent test-labs, worldwide.
 
Defense presented their arguements and witnesses. Their three prime "Expert Witnesses" were Plaintiff's Electronic Expert, Michael Leverich, Rick Schneider and Ron Dockweiler. They attempted to prove that the WFC process was not new and revolutionary, but only electrolysis, and that the Voltage Intensifier Circuit(VIC) did not exist, contrary to WFC patent verification as so confirmed via Plaintiff's Dispostion To-Test. The VIC is the primary component to limit amperage leakage and to allow the voltage to increase, which is the opposite result of electrolysis. Attorney Judkins stated that the voltage-zones in both WFC Fuel Cells were only copper and not stainlss steel material and that the WFC Fuel Cells needed an additive to function. Rick Schneider claimed that he had the WFC for three days for testing and that the WFC Pulse Voltage Circuits were nothing more than a stack of batteries chemically storing electrons. Charles Holbrook, WFC assistant who was responsible for the WFC Fuel Cell during the time of Rick alleged testing, stated under oath that the WFC Fuel Cell was only out of his control for less than thirty minutes during one lunch period.
 
18. Plaintiffs Counsel present no evidence to support their false claims. No verified testing results were presented by the defense nor was any oscilloscope results shown for the WFC electronic signal input to the WFC Fuel Cells by Rick.
 
The plaintiff attorney Judkin did finally admit in a Plaintiff's Motion that a form of salt compound (no certificate of testing of chemical substance presented by the Plaintiffs) had been put into the WFC Fuel Cell during the depostion for testing... thereby, creating a dead short condition and causing the WFC Fuel Cells to malfuction (reducing gas production) since salt would degrade the WFC gas process, not enhance it as with electrolysis...and, since voltage has no effect on an electrolyte.
 
19. Judge Corzine attemps to intercede to prevent WFC arguements to be presented before the court.
 
 On 2 February 1996, the court was adjourned until Wednesday, 8 May 1996. No WFC witnesses had been called, including WFC Expert Witnesses and Electrical Engineer, Mathias Johanson, from Sweeden. Instead Judge Corzine called the lawyers into his chambers and informed them that he could only find punitive damages of $1 and that they should try to settle the case. This was made without WFC counter arguements. Defendant Stan Meyer refused this offer, since his arguements had not been heard and he was confident of the merits of the proven WFC technology by independent testing labs.
 
20. Plaintiffs Electronic Expert proclaims, under oath, that WFC electronic circuits suggest that it is not an electrolysis process.
 
The trial re-convened on Wednesday, 8 May 1996 through Friday, 10 May 1996. Stan Meyer underwent extensive cross examination. Judge Corzine disallowed WFC video tape filmed during Plaintiff deposition to-test, WFC video tape of a WFC Dealership Seminar that contradicted key testimony of Forrest Harper and other plaintiff's witnesses, a well as WFC Test To Confirm Video tape showing both WFC Electronic Experts, Stephen Meyer and Mathias Johanson, confirming WFC VIC Circuit unipolar pulse voltage input signal with low amp leakage being applied to the Fuel Cells. Attorney/Judge Hurley only called foreward one WFC witness and limited his testimony. He did not allow key expert witness, Johanson to take the stand since "his English was not good". WFC witnesses find his English clear and easily understood. Attorney/Judge Hurley also stated he wanted to present an "Image of the Defendant", and not directly respond to the Plaintiffs' charges. However, during this time Expert Witness Leverich stated under oath of the hearing that the... "electronic circuit interfacing suggests that it is not an electrolysis process." Other key findings under oath were that Rick Schneider had threatened Stan Meyer on 14 August 1992 by pulling a .45 calibre handgun on him, that Rick, Forrest, Richard, and Ron were all in business relationship on the A-55/A21 technology and that electronic expert witness, Leverich, had added salt to the WFC Fuel Cell during his measurements at the deposition. Since the WFC uses ordinary water and not an additive, this directly violated Judicial Protocol by tampering with WFC Evidence of Records.
 
21. Judge Corzine prevents WFC Evidence of Records to be submitted to the court by knowing and willfully switching off the court audio sound recording equipment during WFC oral testimony.
 
During Stan Meyer's oral testimony before the court in demonstrating the WFC Fuel Cell "Mode of Operability" of using the Voltage Intensifier Circuit (VIC) in producing voltage of opposite polarity to separate and disassociates the water molecule into its component gases, hydrogen & oxygen, the court audio sound recording equipment seemed to malfunction and be switched off. Judge Corzine said proceedings should continue without it. This is a violation of judicial protocol, since the recording system is used to verify testimony given during the trial...and as such becomes "Evidence of Records." After his oral testimony, Stan expected Attorney/Judge Hurley to start bringing forth WFC witnesses and counter arguements. Instead, Attorney/Judge Hurley spoke up, stated he had to leave for a pre-planned vacation and said that there was no more testimony to be given and waver the right of the defendant to give a case summary of the WFC facts brought before the court. Stan Meyer immediately stated he would protest and Judge Corzine ended the hearing.
 
22. WFC files charges of judicial misconduct by a presiding judge to the State Supreme Court of Ohio, Disciplinary Counsel...requesting a new trial or dismissal due to judicial default.
 
Attorney/Judge Hurley told Stan Meyer that only evidence accepted by the judge in the original case could be heard in an appeal case. Since now there was no evidence of the WFC Voltage Intensifier Circuit demonstration and related WFC counter arguements before the court due to the fact that the court audio sound recording system was off, they could not be used in an appeal case. Also, 34 key poster boards that explained the detail of the WFC voltage process were also not allowed as evidence. Some had been numbered for the court records, but then the numbering had been crossed out. Also, the WFC patent documents had not been blue-tagged as evidence. Therefore, Stan immediately started presenting documentation and a list of complaints/discrepancies to the State Supreme Court of Ohio Judicial Counsel, which investigates complaints of judicial and/or lawyer misconduct. Defense Attorneys/Judge Hurley and Detling, at this juncture, were also summarily terminated by WFC for malpractice.
 
23. Judge shown to have malice of forethought. WFC petitioned for a new hearing or dismissal of charges by WFC documentation submitted on 22 July and 31 July 1996.
 
By written court order dated 9 August 1996, Judge Corzine gave WFC on or before 4 September 1996 4:30 PM to submit a reply to the plaintiff's response to the defendant's motion for a new trial. Plaintiff's response was received by the court on 20 August 1996. WFC's reply arrived on 4 September 1996. However, before the WFC reply was even considered, Judge Corzine denied WFC's request for a new trial on 3 September 1996. His judgement, on the same date, found WFC guilty of "gross and egregious fraud" with punitive damages of $1, a penalty totally inconsistent with the wording used. This was a change from his findings on the 7 August 1996 oral hearing, in which he found WFC guilty only of "fraud" with punitive damages of $1. A word change showing malice on the part of Judge Corzine.
 
24. Judge rules against the very WFC Evidence of Records not allowed to be submitted to the court due to the court audio equipment being switch off by instruction of the presiding Judge.
 
Judge Corzine ruled that WFC did not have an amperage inhibiting circuit, did not have a Voltage Intensifier Circuit (VIC) and therefore the WFC water splitting process was only electrolysis. However, independent scientific verification (Government and University Labs, Worldwide) of the WFC technology as being different than electrolysis, including the existence and amperage restricting operation of the Voltage Intensifier Circuit (VIC) as well as verification by the US Patent Office under 35 USC 101, had been established well before the trial. >23. Judge rules against the very WFC Evidence of Records >not allowed to be submitted to the court due to the court >audio equipment being switch off by instruction of the >presiding Judge. > > Judge Corzine ruled that WFC did not have an amperage >inhibiting circuit, did not have a Voltage Intensifier Circuit >(VIC) and therefore the WFC water splitting process was >only electrolysis. However, independent scientific verification >(Government and University Labs, Worldwide) of the WFC >technology as being different than electrolysis, including the >existence and amperage restricting operation of the Voltage >Intensifier Circuit (VIC) as well as verification by the US >Patent Office under 35 USC 101, had been established well >before the trial. Additionally, WFC was ordered to return to the plaintiffs their WFC dealership deposits and pay their attorney fees, a total amount of $40,515.72.
 
25.Judge Corzine impliments unsuccessfully, illegal collection activities by attempting to collect six times the judgement value.
 
On 2 October 1996, Judge Corzine signed an Affidavit, Order and Notice of Garnishment of Property other than Personal Earnings and Answer of Garnishee for the amount of $40,515.72. This Affidavit includes a Notice of Hearing which gives the Garnishee [ five days (underlined)] from the day he/she has been served with the Affidavit to request such a hearing. However, on the day that WFC recieved the Affidavit, WFC was notified by six banks in Grove City, Ohio that Attorney Judkins had served them with the court Garnishment Affidavit. This could have resulted in the illegal withdrawl of over $243,000 from WFC accounts had all these banks had WFC accounts. Obviously, no opportunity to ask for a hearing was allowed. For the record, WFC has paid the total cost asked for in the judgement plus 10 percent interest from 3 september 1996. Rick Motive: disclaim WFC patent developement rights in order to attempt to use WFC technology with regard to A55/A21 project...since WFC requires no chemical additive to water to become a fuel additive to gasoline or diesel fuel. 
 

Statement of Summary

1. Judicial Protocol must be mandated to insure Defendant rights to defend. As a result of the experience of WFC in this court case, WFC will push the U.S. court system to a Miranda "Statement of Ruling" for defendants in lawsuits of this type.
 
Defendants should be aware of what steps they can take if their "Rights to Defend" are exploited and denied in the court room by either lawyers or judges, or both. The loophole must be closed where a lawyer can withhold evidence until the last minute and then close the case as the defendant is expecting the start of the counter arguements. This effectively prevents the withheld evidence from being heard in any appeal. Also, the defendant should understand his rights and procedures to protest in the case of violations of judicial protocol by the judge and what these violations of judicial protocol might be and what corrective action(s) can be taken to protect the [ Defendant Rights to Defend (underlined)] in an ongoing court hearing. WFC charges of judicial misconduct by the suppression of, tampering with, and refusal to properly administer WFC Evidence of Records, is now before the Disciplinary Counsel, The Supreme Court of the State of Ohio... requesting a new trial or dismissal of Judge, Corzine, ruling by Judicial default.

 
I don't believe Meyer was a fraud, I do believe that there are many out there who would like us to believe such, after all, it's in thier best interests...

I think so also, after listenting to Stephen's initerview multiple times and researching all that he was saying it makes sense.
Stephen also states that he spent 9 years trying to figure it out, and the explanation I gave above was the same thing he explained. Not to mentione he's an electrical engineer who worked with Stan on the technology.

For those of you who are wanting to hear Stephen Meyer's radio interview about it here's the link (Thanks Tonyw).

http://globalkast.com/othermedia.htm

It's Stephen Meyer interview 4/14/2007 Part 4

Newguy,

Stan states the same thing in the tech brief (just worded differently)
I'll find it later and post the reference.

Welcome,

First things first. Stan Meyer did not produce large amounts of gas by simply pulsing a frequency across the wfc. His work in producing large amounts of gas efficiently was based on complex circuitry and a great deal of knowledge.

Most of this forums users (myself included) have been working on understanding and replicating Meyer's work for a few years with no successful replications. We are getting close though.
 
Don't want to put your hopes down, just remember if it was simple, we would all have water powered cars.
Best place to start is the 8XA circuit.

I have been studying square waves and harmonics lately.
For those of you that may not know a square wave is actually made up of a series of sine waves, See attachment.

I have been trying to understand what is occuring with the waves we are seeing. Even in my multisim replication circuits I'm seeing harmonics and AM waveforms. The problem is, we are all getting HV AC across the water cap at resoance...Looking to the past on other forums shows replicators had the same issues. HV AC at resonace, no gas production or very little gas production....

With the possible harmonics in the circuit it makes me wonder if the water cell is acting as an RC filter. Filtering out higher harmonic waves which have a much higher impedance. This would give high voltage high impedance waves to the water cap.
But the resoance is still the whole problem, I wonder if we are all getting close but not close enough....Perhaps the resonant bandwidth is very small?

I have been doing some research on the core materal used in the 5 coil VIC.

Ferrite 43 material which has a permeability of 850 (which I think is too low) and CN20 Ferrite which has a permeability of 925. Both of these materials are NiZn Ferrites which are typically used at frequencies above 500kHz.

There are also MnZn Ferrites, from what I have read these ferrites have permeabilities above 800 and are used at frequencies from 1kHz to 1MHz. So I'm thinking we need a MnZn Ferrite. Right now I'm looking trying to find an MnZn material which has a permeability around 1000. Core material selection is something I have very little experience in, but in Meyer's case I think it is very important to find the right material.