Stan used AMPS, big time!
Started by unknown · · 104 posts · last reply 24 March 2009
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#1 ·
Hi folks,
Well, i am dropping the bom, right now, right here.
Look at page 15 of the pdf viewer or page 13 of his patent.
Line 1 till 10 of that page.
He states:
he hooked up his hydrogen generator to his powersource. ( probably a battery)
Then he used the alternator and hooked it up to that generator and he could compensate the powerconsumtion drastically from his battery.
The question to you all: Do you read the same as i do?
br
Steve
attachment_3391 EP0111574.pdf stan said amps.bmp
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#2 ·
the AMPs come out of the water, the water is an electrical source as well as a gas source.
In electrolysis you put amps into the water to stabilize the atoms after they separate so the atoms get filled up with electrons and wont join up again.
In the wfc you take amps out of the water to destabilize the atoms after they separate so the atoms remain repulsively charged and wont join up again.
(180 degrees out of phase)
Stan says in the NZ video if you put 100 volts across the the EEC you can pull 100 amps out of the water for 10 kW of power.
The high voltage breakdown of the water molecules release electrons into the water bath which can be considered amp-flow, but it is a result, and not a cause.
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I agree with Stevie...
After 2 years experimenting, I just don't see how anyone will be able to put any high voltage low amps across water, to cause it to break using voltage potential only....
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Thats because you are just not innovating Jolt , This is a phycal process on the water molecule , not a chemical one , remember that . The molecule is moving in a certain way and being affected by certain forces , *voltage* is the tool Stan used , let voltage do work .
Theres this opposing wave that can be replicated by anyone and has been proven to have exactly the same waveform , in the best condition this always results on 0 voltage across the cell , this does something to the water . But that alone wont produce gas , we know this ...
So now we must work by elimination ., there is a sequence here where the molecule is weakened at some point in time and thats when we *pull* with our real voltage . You have to understand this and stop thinkin *dielectric breakdown by voltage* ... You have to stop banging your head against the wall , everytime you get hurt and there is blood on the floor , you must find a new way to break the wall .
I made a montage of what I think the Stephen meyers waveform represents , not sure if this is good .
attachment_3394 bizzarewaveform.JPG
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#5 · date not recorded
Well, thank you people for responding on your own ways, but NOBODY respons to the text I found.
Please do read it carefull!
And please tell me what you read!
br
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That text is nothing , nothing but contradiction...
Stan Meyers uncovered ALOT of stuff in ten years , he discovered the secret to the creation of the universe in 10 years trust me .
That patent is nothing .
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#7 · date not recorded
Well Dankie, I respect your opinion, you may be right. but I have been there and done that and exausted all my abilities...
Maybe one day I will return to HV Low Amps testing... but for now I will be working on it known and proven to work
High AMPS Low volts.
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May be right ?
I am right , I am sure of this .
It might not be exactly as I say it is but its along those lines , this opposing wave is doing something . -
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Great.
I hope you can show us a video soon. -
#10 · date not recorded
Great.
I hope you can show us a video soon.
I am the inspirator , somebody will get inspired by this new knowledge , somebody here most likely .
When I am right , I know I am right , there can be no doubting me . -
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Ok Dankie, Ok.
You doing a great Job inspiring. -
#12 · date not recorded
Ok Dankie, Ok.
You doing a great Job inspiring.
thx bro , I appreciate .
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#13 · date not recorded
stan points out ways that its not a amp current causing the work.. but your on the right path by focusing on this perspective. he points it out for instance in one of his videos when hes talking about the hydrogen fracturing process. the electron extractor being a single high positve single tube with no neg .. being posistioned at the exit port of electrical stress and laser energy on HFP.. it takes in the ejected electrons.into the circuit.. stan has a switching circuit that switched sedcondarys potential output between led(laser energy) and the choke. it is not a amp producer but a amp consumer.. the leds on time allows the electrons to flow threw them and consume them to produce photons.. so now you have a way to help rid the entering electrons entering positive choke without the power source having to do the work. and its making you another energy form that is needed. copper is 29 electrons and 29 protons. emf displaces the electrons of atoms, when rectified it allows only one directional flow for them electrons.. now were creating difference in potential.. not osvillating electron difference in potential(like alternating current). so when you displace them atoms in the isolated chokes.. (isolated electrical stress air gap"air ionization".) the positive choke during high voltage probly has like 20 electrons and 29 protons per atom from the emf displacement. by pullsed pumping action of one directional flow. if positive has only 20 electrons then the negative choke should have around 38 electrons and 29 protons.. thats a proportional difference which a isolated circuit should have... now if your electron extractor is hooked to a positive choke that has a displacement of about 9 electrons then it is a vacuum force on the electrons so it sucks them in.. but when they get sucked in it will throw your proportional difference off in your chokes.. it will cause the system to wanna produce current.. so they must be consumed.. what better way then to make it efficient.. you make it where your amp consumption is producing another energy form to make your system even more efficient hfp. this just hit me as i am typing.. i flashed to a dream i had last night .. and it just made me focus on the gas gun.. it has chokes on it.. so its chokes are not incorporated in vic 6-1.
?? the chokes are wrapped where the fuel gas passes through them before and after laser and electrical stress. think on that.
outlawstc -
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welp hydro that probably depends on how much quenching's going on huh? since voltage wave guides act as a quenching circuit??? -
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Hi,
I am a bit surprised by Dankie's reaction. First, we have to believe all whats written by Stan and now half of whats written by Stan is crap?
I do not have a problem with changing views on things, Dankie. No problem at all.
@ Donald
In theory, we all hope to get some amps from the water. I know what Stan said, but i doubt his formula.
Till sofar i can confirm that I pulled a 10% of power out of the water, with my EEC circuit, compared to the input.
Not sure if we can get to the stage of 100V by 100amps.... Where did Stan get that idea?
Anybody?
@ Outlaw
Your explanation maybe something. However, my question on what that european Patent says stills wait for an answer.
Kinesis?
@ Electrojolt
Talk to you soon!
@All
The attached patent doesnt tell anything on using an EEC. It tells that the hydrogen generator used in that kind of setup is using amps and that the output of the alternator cannot compensate fully the power needed by the system....at least, in my point of view.
br
Steve
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Considering all the progress made on the VIC lately, I don't see any point for this discussion, in a month or two we'll know for sure what's going on with this VIC Coil, since it is the heart of all the WFC technology.
I do think that you have to trust Stan if you really want to understand him and his technology. I've watched his videos at least 3-4 times each, and every time they make more and more sense. Stan explains things in the videos that are not in the Patents.
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#17 · date not recorded
Listen, i really appriciate the work that is done on the VIC.
I really do. Keep on going. I do too.
However, my question was if you guys read the same as i did when you read that patent.
Or are my eyes making a foul out of me?
br
Steve -
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What ever method used, we need to be able to produce Hydrogen efficiently...
I agree, those working on VIC, keep at it, you may uncuver something that many of US missed.
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We would lose less time if we would just all agree that the opposing wave is acting upon the water molecule . When everybody stops ignoring this I will be happy , from then on we can work by elimination .
I hate this negativism , lets not start turning in circles again . -
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We would lose less time if we would just all agree that the opposing wave is acting upon the water molecule . When everybody stops ignoring this I will be happy , from then on we can work by elimination .
Dankie, those opposing volts, is that not like using a 7812 with a 7912 regulator?
I hate this negativism , lets not start turning in circles again .
At the end, its all like having a potential difference between poles...except when you use the zero...
br
steve -
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page 152 stan meyre full data
The resultant Dynamic Voltage Potential of Difference (opposite electrical attraction force) (SS' -
617 •... RR') is in balance phase of equal electrical intensity (66 = 67) of opposite polarity (positive
electrical voltage potential _66 equals negative electrical Voltage potential 66 since the voltage
Coefficient of Inductance (FL1/FL2), Voltage Coefficient of Capacitance (Cd1/Cd2), and voltage
Coefficient of Resistance (Rs1/Rs2) across choke coils (L1/L2) are the same values ... allowing,
Voltage Bounce Phenomenon (700) of Figure (7-9) to be preformed.
potential of difference..
this next quote is what i have been saying this whole time and needs to be understood. its what dankies talking about as well.. its what we need to realize.. that is stans example on the atomic level...
""Magnetic Field Coupling (71) of Figure (7-9) entering into and passing through Secondary
Coil-winding (52) of Figure (7-8) causes and produces copper ions (643a xxx 643n) (Positive
Charged atoms 542a xxx 542n having missing electrons) when moving external electromagnetic
field strength (71a xxx 7In) is sufficient enough to dislodge electromagnetically charged electrons
(64Ia xxx 64In) from copper atoms making up copper wire material (52). Collectively, the resultant
positive electrical charged copper ions (642a xxx 642n) added together produces Positive Voltage
Potential (629) being electrically applied to choke-coil (56); whereas, the "Liberated" negative
electrical charged electrons (64Ia xxx 64In) added together provides Negative Voltage Potential (631) to the opposite end of Secondary Wire (52) being electrically connected to choke
coil (62). Once Secondary Coil-winding (52) is de-energized by the removal (collapsing magnetic
field during pulse off-time T2 of external Magnetic Field (71), the dislodged electrons (641a xx
641n) return to positive charged copper ions (642a xx 642n) ... terminating and switching off
opposite voltage potential (629 - 631) when positive electrical state of the copper atoms changes
back to net electrical charge of zero. Sustaining and maintaining the resultant induced Voltage
Potential (Vo - Vn) without "Electron Discharged" (inhibiting electron flow) through Choke Coil
(62) while, at the same time, inhibiting (preventing) any additional or other electrons from entering
into Secondary copper wire-zone (52) by way of Choke Coil (56) is herein called "Electron Bounce
Phenomenon" (EbP), as illustrated in (700) of Figure (7-9).""
""Collectively, the resultant
positive electrical charged copper ions (642a xxx 642n) added together produces Positive Voltage""
key words ions added together... to add them together there is a real number count of copper atoms that can be positive chaged present for a given length of wire.. thats what stan means by capacitance fellas..
now realy focus on how he says collectivley added together.. means more room more capaciticance.
this is whats happening in the chokes on a atomic level.. to create difference.
outlawstc -
#22 ·
What I read in the patent of the first post is:
the combustion cycle generates power by coupling it to an alternator, this power is fed back to the hydrogen generator, so less current is needed from the power source itself. -
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What I read in the patent of the first post is:
the combustion cycle generates power by coupling it to an alternator, this power is fed back to the hydrogen generator, so less current is needed from the power source itself.
Thank you!
steve -
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No problem, guess we read the same, but I can't conclude from this amps are being used, only that his 302807 hydrogen generator is fed by the output power of the system.
Don't know what the output of the hydrogen generator of 302807 looks like, can't find this patent -
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What ever method used, we need to be able to produce Hydrogen efficiently...
I have read many times that you tried opposite HV with insulated electrodes.
I agree, those working on VIC, keep at it, you may uncuver something that many of US missed.
If you still have this setup, you could try to "extract" electrons or charge or whatever from between the isolation, maybe a lamp will do, and see what happens.