outlawstc

i was woundering if he used the pole hoist to get the stone off ground.. and maybe started stripping electrons out of the stone to gain a positve polarity..

dankie,
i was listening to stephen meyers on the blog radio.. he happend to bring up stans plate cell,  the one with the adjustable gap.. he was talking about how he like it because you could see the production between the gap?  production in ribbons.. your scalar wave pic made me think of the picture he was painting. i gotta listen to it again.

outlawstc

it fits in the schematic well.. notice how stan shows a coil orientation for the amp inihbitor.  that orientation is exaxtly how it should be for stainless negative choke.. notice the direction of flow thats aloud i into that amp inhibitor it allows electron flow into the choke.  and blocks hole charges from forming on off time

dankie the amp inhibitor coil isnt going to ground directly..  it is the stainless negative choke.. going to negative excitor.  it is the one in my drawing..  connects to center of secondary. and negetive tube. the positve choke connects to positve induction side of primary(rotor) and the positve tube. thats how stan was getting a 0-20khz pulse on the output.. he wasnt getting it threw the emf the rotors giving to the stator windings (secondarys) in the alternator..   the only way for electrons in and out of the system is from the negative excitor, through the water, into the positive excitor and into the primarys electrical circuit.... but with the sync pulse and the mutual difference, i dont think leackeage is a concern.

its weird to think that but i would say yes.. and that would allow a smaller capacitance space dankie. you thinking what im thinkin. lol were on the right path of understanding.   the only time it will want to arc is when there differences arent  mutual..  what i mean by this is say you have 400volts that you want to peak at.. if your getting 400volts positve electrical force and some how getting more electrons in the system you may read 450 volts negative electical force.. that would be a unbalanced difference.. and the electrons will want to arc to the positve side to try to balance to around 425 volts.. but when a power system is on and its contstantly getting strays in it to allow imbalance that will created a constant current/ load.?


outlawstc

if you had two inductor chokes for one secondary output  on seperate cores it wouldnt work. the balanced difference on the core is what  keeps the charge in the core... if they were on seperate cores there wouldnt be a mutual balance of difference magneticaly shared... .. this will cause the electrons to flow from negative excitor over to positve. creating current.. the same core is mutual inductance for them..   it causes a mutual balance of electron clustering keeping it from having voltage flop/ back emf?

and what i really mean by this is they may be of opposite charges but they are equaly attracted to each other and i beleive they can sit next to each other in dielectric coated material (copper or stainless) with these displaced charges, without producing mad heat in any of the windings.  and allow the skin effect to take place on the excitors of opposite polarity.

exactly.. it effects the protons and the electrons.. since water has a dominant positive charge on one side and the electrons are on the other side thats creates the dipole orientaion of the molecule..  the tickleing and plucking of 1-3 electrons on the negative electron side is what switches off the bond of hydrogen and oxy.. when they are being expelled the electrons make it back to the oxy to form stable gases.. since there no longer a dipole they are not effected with the opposing electrical stress as much in the water bath i dont think and the scalar wave might actually help pump the gases out?


outlawstc

well when those differences are next to each other present in the plates.  it messes with the space time between them..   i was saying the other day what causes us to fall and what causes us to need force to goto space... and could this force occur in a OPPOSITE manner..  meaning that particles of positive charge have gravity toward the negative excitor and electrons feel gravity toward the positive field..  and at the same time can those charged particles of the atom feel a pushing force pushing them in the same direction they are being pulled?? 2 forces acting in space time on both opposite charges in a opposite manner..  and the only thing holding these particles together is potential.. 

have you heard of coral castle in florida?

thanks dankie i have many hours of pondering.  the best way to understand is perspective. you got to visualize and try to understand everything whats going on in the wires them self on a atomic level.  visualize how emf can constantly displace the excitors in a multi phase set up (alternator). now remember how stan says the voltage will cause alignment in the plate material. what kind of alignment??.. now think on how there alignment could be 180 out from each other giving clockwise and counter clockwise scalar wave? the differential vortex? idk still pondering lol.

outlawstc

red circle is connected to positve output of copper bi filar.  i feel as if they should be isolated.. but you think about it and a air gap works as good isolation but can also help perform work with air ionization.. i show only the red because for extraction of electrons thats what it passes through during extraction(no neg present).. just the positve potential.. theres still missing items in the diagram like output for the electrical stress in the hfp .. it just makes to much since to take advantage of that with the copper chokes.. since your high volts are going to be in those wires specificaly..  as for electrons and holes.. i suggest falling back to the elementary of electric. think about it this has been so easily over looked for many many years of being possible.. for some of the smartest people of our time(engineers, scientisct, etc..) there had to been a flaw/ twist in there roots that has kept them satisfied with understanding.. and i would say that it is they over look the efficency possibility in the building up of potential differences.. and i dont think they fully understand how chokes can react in a charging manner when they are bi filar wound being pulsed with a sync burst.. every sync burst its thowing off a balanced difference in both directions. holes one way and electrons the other.. meyers even said in one of his videos that people who study electric learn about deflection of electrons and  chemistry  only focuses on proton aspects of the atom.. theres a wall clear as day that has been established that helps keep this from happening. chemistry and electric should be united in many ways.

outlawstc

here the elephants in action.. one elephants red.. the other is black.

a pulling and pushing force on both charges in opposite directions

well put alan but remember your only talking about one of the forces thats effecting the 2 elephents theres another force involed as well for seperation  of water.. imagine those to elephants pushing on each other while haveing ropes on them pulling them just as hard as they are pushing..  since one elephant is negative and the other is positve.

Electrostatic induction hypothesis

According to the electrostatic induction hypothesis charges are driven apart by as-yet uncertain processes. Charge separation appears to require strong updrafts which carry water droplets upward, supercooling them to between -10 and -20 °C. These collide with ice crystals to form a soft ice-water mixture called graupel. The collisions result in a slight positive charge being transferred to ice crystals, and a slight negative charge to the graupel. Updrafts drive the less heavy ice crystals upwards, causing the cloud top to accumulate increasing positive charge. Gravity causes the heavier negatively charged graupel to fall toward the middle and lower portions of the cloud, building up an increasing negative charge. Charge separation and accumulation continue until the electrical potential becomes sufficient to initiate a lightning discharge, which occurs when the distribution of positive and negative charges forms a sufficiently strong electric field.[13]

protons and electrons are items of opposite characteristics but they are drawn to that opposition. they are drawn in such a manner they fall towards each other.  like charges repel each other in a forcing manner.

 the charges of the atoms reaction to these fields are of exact OPPOSITE they want to fall in opposite directions cause in that supperimpossing state of space there gravitational forces  oppose.. the dynamic pulse is the shizznet. because your not relying on just the positve pulse which only pulls on the electron without the neg pushing force helping..   the negative pulse helps push the electrons the way they are being pulled while pulling on the protons(nucleus).  start to think on what defines are up and down in our reality for gravity and how it can be altered. potential placement is everything

im reading into it and have found some interesting things.. look these terms up in wiki

Spontaneous symmetry breaking, Scalar field,  differential form. differential geometry

i was thinking deep i min ago.... if i were to try to explain electric travel in wire from the electrons point of veiw..  put your self in the electrons shoes .. your being forced by emf  back and forth in alternating current.. but are still moving forward up the hot leg at the same time. for a negative potential of electrons to travel they have to either be grounding out to earth (vacuum) at our homes or being forced by emf. i would say there going to ground.. but in order to stay moving in that direction would your forward potential(push) up swing be higher then your pull?..i would say yes.. and i would also be inclined to say that the higher upswing in ac gives the differential to show voltage.. that sounds like the most frictionist resistive way to use power(not send, but use), plus your not working with true high and low potential's

now this is how i see it from the electrons shoes in stans set up

to encounter a true positive potential and you are a electron it is like falling in the sky.. the floor comes out from under you.. weightless feeling.. to be the electron being forced into the negative choke its like going up in the space shuttle.. theres force needed..    now think about this.. those two forces on the atom effect the atom  with the same forces working both ways.. but the key to understanding is that the positve particles feel like falling towards the force side of electric(negative) and the electrons want to fall to the positve.. they both incounter  there falling in opposite direction!!.. but with both forces being present they arent just feeling the fall, there's also force behind it. so its like they have a jet pack and are doing a nose dive.  force with fall.
that fall feeling can only be constant when it is pure.. the positive wound choke should never be thown into a negative state.. 0 and up.. with the 3 phases of the alternator working together is what creates the pure posiitve potential in the positve plate.. even though one phase might be hitting 0 the others being 120 out one of them is maintaining a high potential in the plate. a constant fall.. and from what stan says the more pure potential with less ripples the more efficient since its not dealing with snapping action. he called it a clipped pulse train?


outlawstc

dankie,
can you give me a brief deffinition in your own words  describing these scalar waves? i havent read a whole lot on them and i  feel like you can probly point out key points like what is forming a scalar wave and what nots. paint the canvas for me buddy,


thanks,
outlawstc

what i mean by on the atomic level is the potentials are present do to the imbalance of charge in the chokes.. that imbalance is a electron imbalance from the displacement of them out of positive choke. you can have volts without that in ac current but its being produced by the oscilation of electrons.. not by displacement.   there somthin not yet understood with the reasons why insulated plates under high voltage doesnt work.. the stainless is not is insulated but it has properties to it that help restrict amp flow (silicon) but allow the vacuum and push electrical forces to be in the water.. maybe?? you really got to think of if it were that simple wouldnt stan of done it that way? in stephen meyers radio session he starts to talk about the stainless and somthing to do with the structure within the stainless and how the process is cold rolled to make the material..i need to listen to it again..


outlawstc

electrojolt,
was the 50 kv  dc pulsed in a step up pulse? when dankie say's "difference" this difference he speaks of is not used in conventional electric that has oscillating difference.. its difference being produced on a atomic level.  caused by electron clustering that stan speaks of..

@stevie
i like the patent you brought to my attention, i just finished reading it.. from what i gather i feel stan doesnt go into detail to much with the electric in figures but it points out all the most important factors of the system.

out of the patent:
application of patent "is for a combustion system having utility (the state or quality of being useful) in a mechanical drive system"
stan is taking a overlooked perspective and is trying to show it.. stop thinking electric can only work in closed loop with electric.. stans system works in multiple closed loop Energy transfers.. he has thought of them all.. the closed loop the motors mechanical drive  shares with power production in the alternator is considered feedback.

" the hydrogen atoms are diassociated from the water molecule by the application of non regulated, non filtered, low power, direct current voltage electrical potential" i would say  provided by 3phase dc rectifided alternator.. the 120 out phases imitate pure dc.

it is controled by the following factors,
"varying voltage, varying pulse rate, varying spaces between plates, switching the number of plates, and plate configuration"


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