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Guys,

I've seen some noticeable increase in gas production by using a negative titanium outer tube with a stainless lead wire pressed against it.  The inner positive epoxy filled tube is stainless 304.  I think that the titanium makes a strong oxide coating that increases over time and builds an oxide layer that acts as a dielectric barrier.

The water stays crystal clear in this arrangement, however, when I switch polarity the iron flows out of the stainless and clouds the water quickly with red oxide. 

This may be a way to build a dielectric barrier in a natural way and it works well enough for me to pursue this more.

kb
Guys, Here's a fun read on topic.  My son and I may make this this afternoon.

Sparking buckets This article is on loan from Wayne Plummer, and can also be found on his original page as well.(http://bizarrelabs.com/images/dot_clear.gif)--ed.  One day in 1976, I (Wayne Plummer (plum@cix.compulink.co.uk)) and some school-chums were poking around in an old pile of magazines on top of a cupboard in the Physics Department at Exeter School and we found a description of a fascinating sounding experiment called the "Sparking buckets". We showed this to our Physics Teacher who said it did look interesting, but that these things almost always turned out to be disappointing.
 Luckily, he didn't put us off and we proceeded to try it - it was a great success; here's how it goes:
 Ingredients  You will need.
Two buckets (plastic or metal) Six expanded polystyrene cups Two wire coat-hangers Two heavy weights Two pipette nozzles Some thin flexible tubing (aquarist air-hoses?) One T-piece for the tubing Two taps to regulate flow through the tubing Something to support the tubing over the buckets A water source Somewhere waterproof to do it all!
Method  This is how you put all the ingredients together:
Stand the buckets with the rims about 5cm apart on three expanded polystyrene cups apiece; do this in a waterproof location (e.g. a bath?). Straighten out the wire coat-hangers (ask the owner's permission first!). Bend the end into a loop of about 1cm diameter (the water will flow through this loop). Attach the other end of the coat-hangers to one weight apiece. Stand a weight in each bucket and arrange the wires so that they pass within 1cm of each other and then stand with their loops over the opposite bucket. Set up the tubing, pipette-nozzles, T-piece and taps as shown in the following diagram, supporting it all as best you can (sticky-tape it to the bathroom wall?) Introduce water into the tubing in a reliable and constant manner. Carefully adjust the two taps so that you're getting smooth flow from the pipette-nozzles that subsequently breaks into droplets just about where the water passes through the loop coming from the opposite bucket!
  Wait for the fun to begin!
 The following diagram shows how it's all set up:
 (http://bizarrelabs.com/images/dot_clear.gif)
 (http://bizarrelabs.com/images/buckets.gif)
 What Should Happen  The fact that the buckets are standing on good insulators means that one is almost certain to be more negatively charged than the other.
 This means that the wire in that bucket, with its loop over the opposite bucket, will tend to repel electrons in the water back up towards the water source, i.e. to make it more positively charged.
 When this water breaks into droplets, this positive charge is trapped in the water and falls into the opposite bucket, making it more positively charged.
 The positively charged bucket's wire, with its loop over our first bucket will be attracting electrons from the water source into the water passing through that loop, i.e. making it more negatively charged.
 When this water falls into the first bucket - it further increases the negative charge we started with.
 The positive feedback loop continues apace!
 As things start to heat up, newly created droplets find themselves heading towards a bucket with the same charge as themselves (and in later stages actually start splitting up because their own charge is great enough to overcome the forces keeping the droplet together!) - what you see is the stream of droplets starting to fan out as it falls; some droplets are sufficiently attracted to the loop and wire they just passed through to spiral around that into the bucket with the opposite charge which they find much more attractive!
 If things go well and the gap between the two wires isn't too large, you will be rewarded with a good spark after which things quiet down again; the reprieve is only temporary of course because the whole thing starts up again.
 With a suitable backdrop and lighting, this experiment can be really beautiful - well worth a go!
 The humidity of the atmosphere has a big impact on this experiment, don't bother trying when it's high.

Understanding the VIC

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Seb,

Thanks for the drawing.  The probe is put to the positive plate only, I will not ruin my oscope by trying across the plates to negative.  It is accurate I believe.  The diode and mosfet speed are factors to getting higher PTP peaks.  I did get over 15kv for awhile but had a nice blue crackling short going on near the side of a coil.  When I fixed that it went to 8.5kv.  We need to insulate better for over 5kv
is what i am learning.

Ferrite is the only way to go.  All other core materials do not de-magnetize fast enough and give lower ptp voltage than ferrite.  I use eight ferrite rods in a staight balun inside three 1000' 28 gauge bobbins staight off the shelf for the secondarys and a 100' 21 gauge wrapped over the center primary in the middle of the three coils on the eight inch core. 

kb

New video: Edward Mitchel

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Seb:

I've often thought that about mosfets.  Can you share your scr circuit for me to replicate?  public or private, thanks much again

kb

New video: Edward Mitchel

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yeah, I know what you mean, what work?

I used a titanium positive tube with a ss negative tube and reached 3kv of course with no bubbles to speak of....

lurking, KB
Sebo,

Gas starts at 15v and goes good at around 30v but then milliamps start creeping in.  You can crank voltage up and use amps it seems.  This phenomenon is all new for me so I'll have to triple check everything yet. 

 The strips are 1" wide not 3/4".  Voltage with ungrounded probe is 1460v at cell+. ????  The jump and blossoming of the waveform when resonance is reached is quite dramatic.  I'll be trying short trains of pulses next I suppose.

kb, 

ps, throw one together for yourself
Sebo,

I became a believer today.  Here's what I did.  I got Tony & Steve's latest resonance scope shot from their discussion on my screen at around 3980hz using 90% duty going though a 2.36Henry each 4" bifilar wound with 22awg iron powder toroid about thumb width.  This was connected to two 3/4" stainless 403 strips 5 inches tall from K & Y from the local hardware and gapped at 1/2MM, glued with goop and enameled on the outside.  A silver coated solid telfon 18 awg lead wire was silver soldered to each strip. 

I use a variac memo 420 like setup with an irfbc40 mosfet and DSEP12-12B diode and pure 11ppm TDS reverse osmosis water in a graduated cylinder.

Strange gurgling from the coil announces the start of the phenomenon with adjustments to frequency, voltage, and pulse width made. 

give it a try, perhaps the inductor has to be huge compared to the cell for this to work

 

Gated Frequency Generator

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Don,


Unless I'm really mistaken and way off, I believe the guys have nailed it.  May we have the schematic now?


kb

from the guys at waterfuel1978

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http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-05-cheap-abundant-cathode-material-hydrogen.html
One type of solar hydrogen system is a chemical solar cell, which can harvest a large part of the solar spectrum and use it to generate hydrogen from water. Chemical solar cells consist of many pillars, with the top half of each pillar made of a photoanode that absorbs the blue part of the solar spectrum, and the bottom half made of a photocathode that absorbs the red part. When blue light is absorbed, it oxidizes water into oxygen and protons. The protons migrate through a membrane in which the pillars are embedded, ending up at the photocathode. As red light is absorbed, catalysts attached to the sides of the pillars reduce the protons to hydrogen.
we live in cool times gents, there will be a group of simple breakthroughs that combine for an incredible energy solution in our lifetime...  there are just too many minds focused on it from across the globe for it not to happen
kb

getting there

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Seb,
Is there a way to simulate ferrite rods wound with single layer iron wire?  Resistance, wire size, turn number, core diameter and permiability can be inputed but I'm not sure if it does that sort of a thing. I don't know much about the simulator but am learning.
The iron wire really works to minimize amps and increases voltages ptp incredibly well.  Spintronics is on to something here.
kb
 

getting there

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Dear Ali:
The gating is one of the confusing parts, I've heard some say meyer would pulse for a period of time and then gate off for a period of time and be making gas during the off period, like 90 seconds if I remember.  Then I've seen his diagram of the five pulses and an off period and five pulses, etc.  I can make gas, not much, but some gas with the iron wire chokes at 12v and at zero amps.  Nice high 2kv+ ptp voltage with a square wave seen at the tube.  When tuned to a resonant waveform with this setup with a nice v shaped ac signal gas production goes away and ptp drops way down.  The gating may relate to the proton spin and pulling effect and timing of that like Tony suggests.  I'm using purified RO water and making gas at nearly zero amps but I still think it is normal electrolysis.  Meyer used 25ma to 10 ma across the gap with 12v in I think, but I could be wrong.  I also think the gating period is what is to be tuned.  I can't get the phase shift yet so I'm still working on that.
Anyone can run amps through water and make gas.  We are indeed trying to duplicate meyer's system yet when we see super high ptp voltages it is a condition of the switch off spikes producing damping off or ringing waveforms, that in itself demonstrates a tank effect of the bounce back and forth of the signal in the system.  How to get Tony's plus and minus 180 degree phase shift with high kv opposing voltages is a mystery to me.
 
kb

getting there

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seb, no hv spikes, no power, no voltage multiplication, a slug