Dave

I just ordered one of those coil winders!

stanmeyerlives,
the slots in the tubes are how the gas exits and the water enters
 
Sharky, I was wondering the same thing, I found a chart and if the wire was quadruple Enameled the sizes would match up but I've never heard of anyhting like that. I'm more concerned about the resistance, to me it looks like the copper wire for the secondary would have to be like 1000 feet to be close to the resistance in the spreedsheet, but maybe i'm missing something?

thank Don! I can't wait for it to get here.

hey don, count me in, i'll buy a copy.
 

wow thats awesome! what a good alternitive to chemicals!
doesn't look like it takes to much energy either. it be cool to know how it really worked
Do you know what one of these runs for?$

i think the steam resonater was used to keep the water from freezing when the car wasn't in use. To keep the battery from going dead, he needed a way to heat the water without using much energy.

today I had my meeting with my professer. Before we got into it he was pretty certain that meyers systems violated all the laws that I have listed above. A few hours later he couldn't find a way that it violates any of them. 
 
 

hello everyone, first off I would like to say that i'm sorry if this topic was already covered and i can remove it if it was.
 
In a few days I have a meeting with one of my old physics profeser; basicly I am going to try to explain why Stans system doesn't break any of these laws. I think i have a pretty good understaning of each of them and why they are not broken but i want my case to be air tight!
I would like to here everyones input to make sure i'm not missing anything.
thanks
 
ps- and any other laws he may throw at me that I haven't considered
 
 
 
The Law of Conservation of Energy
Energy in a system may take on various forms (e.g. kinetic, potential, heat, light). The law of conservation of energy states that energy may neither be created nor destroyed. Therefore the sum of all the energies in the system is a constant.
Faraday's 1st Law of Electrolysis - The mass of a substance altered at an electrode during electrolysis is directly proportional to the quantity of electricity transferred at that electrode. Quantity of electricity refers to the quantity of electrical charge, typically measured in coulomb.
Faraday's 2nd Law of Electrolysis - For a given quantity of electricity (electric charge), the mass of an elemental material altered at an electrode is directly proportional to the element's equivalent weight. The equivalent weight of a substance is its molar mass divided by an integer that depends on the reaction undergone by the material.
 
First law of thermodynamics
  <blockquote>Energy can be neither created nor destroyed. It can only change forms.</blockquote> <blockquote>In any process in an isolated system, the total energy remains the same.</blockquote> <blockquote>For a</blockquote>thermodynamic cycle the net heat supplied to the system equals the net work done by the system.   Second law of thermodynamics <blockquote>When two</blockquote>isolated systems in separate but nearby regions of space, each in thermodynamic equilibrium in itself, but not in equilibrium with each other at first, are at some time allowed to interact, breaking the isolation that separates the two systems, and they exchange matter or energy, they will eventually reach a mutual thermodynamic equilibrium. The sum of the entropies of the initial, isolated systems is less than or equal to the entropy of the final exchanging systems. In the process of reaching a new thermodynamic equilibrium, entropy has increased, or at least has not decreased <blockquote></blockquote> <blockquote></blockquote>

got it! I only had 5 min to look at it but wow! this is awesome stuff

Steve I'm not sure if I understand what you mean? I'm asking everyone what they think? Maybe it's my writing style, I'm always looking for all the feedback I can get on anything I post

I agree, the tech brief does seems to have a few things mixed together. I thought the sales manual kind of cleared a lot of it up.
Anyway, so if we have some kind of alternating field across the cell, how exactly is the gas being produced? The way I'm looking at it is once h20 is ionized into H2+ and O- on there respective side of the cell, the polarity switches and the ions collide  and transfer electrons, or collide with already released gases which would result in the release of electrons from the oxygen ion to then combine with the Hydrogen ions
what do you think?

thanks Tony, that sounds like a good idea

well, voltage doesn't really flow, its just the potential for current to flow. I would think that the higher the impedance the better, but i could be wrong.

How much energy does it really absorb when the bond is broken? In simple electrolysis, electrons are not absorbed to make Hho, electrons simply have to pass through the water. What energy is being absorbed?

Stan heated the water with the steam resonator, this heat energy would be available for absorption after the bond is broken with potential.

Yeah I can see that's how it's supposed to work according to this memo, what I'm more interested in is why Tony and others are getting an AC single? We know what Stan had built himself from Don's info and it doesn't seem to be drastically different from what many of us have built.

Also can you explain the bifiliar secondary? I'm not sure I really understand that one.

Sebs, how did you accomplish this?

Well that's cool! I thought when you said it came from Stans stuff you got it from Don. Chris is the chief technology guy correct? Do you guys know if they are having any success with Stan's stuff?

those statements in the sales manual stuck out to me as well. I did an experiment where I produced hho through electrolysis and then continually pumped it through the cell with my early vic attempt hooked up.

If the cells polarity switched with each pulse, wouldn't that be equivalent to the steam resonator? In the sales manual Stan states that there is both a static and alternating field being applied to the cell. I don't understand how that one would work?

Thanks for clearing that up. I watched it again and saw that schematic at the end. Not a Meyer replication,

Tony, here is the schematic that Alex says he is using