Does anyone know what material Stan used for his bobbins? I'm making some as soon as I can decide on a plastic. I was thinking maybe abs, delrin ect.. but I really have no idea what differences they will make?
I ran a quick simulation and it looks as if the bottom choke is voltage output is switching between positive and negative but the top choke is staying positive because of the diode. I took a picture, take a look. The sales manual really outlines the importance of ion collision for the resonance cell. Do you think its possible to have both a static field and an alternating field?
I was just thinking about this when I was taking apart some microwaves the other day, I saved the magnetrons. I don't really know enough about them or there dangers to try something like this, but it's worth saving this patent to try down the rode when my education is further along
I kind of wonder if anything bad would happen when the microwaves are bouncing off the steel electrodes, like putting metal in a microwave?
Same here, it soon become apparent after receiving the specs that the core Stan was using would be the hardest thing to get my hands on. I also have been looking for something along the lines of a ferrite sheet to have cores cut out of, but I haven't really found any. I purchased flat ferrite strips that I am planning on putting together in a U shape like you have done with the rods. Thats the best I can do for now.
What kind of diode are you using in between secondary and positive choke? Have you been able to achieve the same inductance and resistance values as Stan's original vic with your setup?
This is a pretty cool document that just surfaced!! I'm half way done reading it but it seems to explain some of Stan's technology in a different, more straight forward way.
I was talking to one of the board members of the Orion project last week and he told me that when they were out bid or whatever, information on the buyers was kept private.(Just like Don said) Two weeks ago they found out what company bought it from someone else that was helping with the sale or involved in some way. Quad City Innovations is the same of the company.
Quote from Dr. Stiffler "The switching circuits in the CRE use energy supplied by the power source, which lowers overall efficiencies by from 10%-20%, although new designs using MOSFETs and Opto Switches can limit this loss to below 20%. Current test CRE's are using a switch controlled by a CMOS 555 adjustable timer that allows a maximum of 191% effective gain. In a production cell I feel the effectiveness will be in the range of 170% to 180% in order to keep circuit complexity and module cost low"
when apposing voltage fields are applied to h20 it ionizes into two h+ions and an O- ion. We want to take this further to the point where two electrons are pulled away from the O- ion giving us oxygen and two free electrons; the bond between the two atoms of the water molecule no longer exist. When the vic turns off, the two free electron recombine with the H+ ions to form stable hydrogen. Now we have hydrogen and oxygen. This is how Stan explains it in the tech brief.
I'm meeting with my roommate's chemistry professor soon who specializes in electro chemistry to discus if this is possible.
Possible problems, When h20 ionizes into two H+ and an O-, how long do the H+ exist by themselves? It seems likely to me that they would attach themselves to any electron they can find.
I came across this a few days ago and i'm sure a lot of you guys have seen it. I've watch his videos on sec theory but didnt come across this until now.
The CRE is basicly a way of recycling the current that flows through the hho cell bring the new impassible rode block to 200%! I'm interested in building my own replication of this since my experiments on stans work have slowed down greatly because of lack of equipment.
Dr. Stiffler's site has a discription of the cre with the circuit used http://67.76.235.52/cre.htm I'm have trouble understanding everything and I wondered if you guys could help me out. The circuit on his site looks to me like two capacitors in series (hho cell and storage cap) so if you were going to apply 4 voltage at 4 amps from the source wouldn't you get 2 voltage and 4 amps across each capacitor and then when the relys switch the storage capacitor would discharge into the hho cell supplying 2 volts 4 amps. so wouldn't it be the same as applying 2 volts 8 amps to the cell. I'm sure i'm looking at this wrong so I would like your input Thanks!
it seems that having a custom core made is more difficult then I thought, I'm still checking into more company's, if anyone knows a good site to buy U cores please post them.
So.. anyone who has looked for Stan's U cores knows they cannot be found! (If someone has found a source, please let me know) Their may be substitutes, but I feel the best plan of action would be to pull together and order custom cores to our specifications. I have all of the sizes from Don, but I need to know what you guys think about the material they should be made of, permeability... ect? Remember, it needs to work between 0 and 10 khz
I'm already tried Adams magnetics, but they don't actually make the cores themselves and they said I would have to order around 1000. so that’s not really an option. I'll be contacting some other companies as soon as I get a better idea of what we need? and once I know that other people are interested. The price for you guys would be cost plus shipping, nothing extra
I know it helps with electrolysis, but I was talking about stan's set up. I was thinking that maybe the water needs to have a higher energy level for it to work
Steve, great post! i've been wondering the same thing, some part that we don't now about that makes the whole thing work. Maybe it could have to do with treating the water before it enters the cell, just an idea.
outlawstc; i agree, we need to try differnt core options. It be nice if we could find a core size with many different material options so we could just transfer the bobbins from one to the other.
high voltage accelerates electroysis because with more volts your force in more amps. If you want to see peoples finding look under their project sections.
