Aaron

Egyptian lights

Hi Monsterman,

Was this on Discovery or History channel or something similar?
Sounds very interesting. Do you recall any part of the name of the documentary?

voltage potential

Hi Sephiroth,

The positive voltage potential aetheric gas is the positive photon potential and the counter or negative voltage potential is the anti-photon potential.

positive voltage potential = photon potential (not anti)
negative voltage potential = anti-photon potential

Magnetic Current is a very interesting field but nobody will figure it out reading Leedskalnin's writings. They will see it pretty clearly reading Ehrenhafts.

cold electricity

Hi Sephiroth,

The first thing I would do is forget that a poynting flow even exists. Just look at the Heaviside flow and know that a certain small percentage of it can "diverge" into the copper wire.

If the voltage moves and shuts off before current can flow or before anything can really be diverged into the copper or other conductor, then would it make a magnetic field? I doubt it but if we are using true longitudinal impulses that are unidirectional, they are supposed to be independent of a magnetic field.

I talked to Peter a bit about electrostatic induction or something similar. The model he uses might be more in alignment with light/dark aether and neutral particles, etc...

I'll have to ask him for details if he feels like going into this or maybe he will see this thread.

Bottom line is that I don't know the real answer. I doubt if any human being knows the real answer but there are people who have probably way more accurate models and based on them, they can do even more with them.

One thing I want to point out that I've been shying away from even talking about but I'll mention it now is cold electricity.

Most of the "cold electricity" that people are delving into is voltage potential without current. If there is no current, then there is no resistance or heat. Therefore, it is "cold" because it doesn't get hot, but it doesn't necessarily cool below ambient.

The other cold electricity is MAGNETIC CURRENT that can perform the same work as hot electron current, but there is 0 voltage involved...and it can cool below ambient.

Bearden

Ash, and that is just from my own illusionary take on Bearden. lol. I agree with most of what I understand he is saying and the rest I don't know. He really does make a lot of sense.

Of course I had to put in some of my own innovations in my book the way I see it. Anyway, I think any model that does seem to make intuitive sense like the aetheric gas model must be pretty accurate. Especially, since it predicts all the behavior in all of these "free energy" circuits.

lifter and gravity

Sephiroth,

Yes, my personal opinion is there is some gravity "deflection" around the lifter from the HV. I even read a US Army document in the past that even admitted the lift couldn't be accounted for from the ion wind alone.

Magnetic Particles

Hi Sephiroth,

I'm glad you liked it! Thank you!

I believe the poynting is probably still the voltage potential, just the part that gets into the surface of the wire and not the whole thing. Poynting had the direction wrong, according to Bearden.

The magnetic field is perpendicular to the voltage potential. The magnetic field is made of north and south magnetic particles smaller than electrons. They are fractional "charges."

When you look at a magnet, north isn't just going on the top then back down to south and not even just into the middle, etc... all the typical models.

On the North side of a magnet or electromagnetic coil...north magnetic particles are moving outwards from it and south magnetic particles are moving INTO the north field...at the SAME time.

They are the magnetic equivalent of having bi-directional potentials moving towards each other...but of a magnetic kind.

Leedskalnin thinks everything including the kitchen sink is probably made of the magnetic particles. If you want the real story that nobody really talks about, read this entire page:
Felix Ehrenhaft: Magnetic Current --- 9 articles
Actually, probably good to save the whole thing for your own records.

That will connect a lot of dots for you. You'll enjoy it.

There is something I'll point out later in regards to this.

Anyway, you'll see a lot of "fractional charge" discovery going on these days. They're keeping in the realm of modified electrons and other things like that. I'm waiting for them to admit they are magnetic carriers...or magnetic particles.

I didn't include magnetics or spins in my book just to keep it simple. The most important thing I want people to get from my book instead of specific technical details is the overall scheme of things. To simply grok the essence of things tying seamlessly together and there is something that does tie it together.

RXP Generation II

One product you can get in one of several thousand autozone stores around the country if you're in the states is: RXP Gas Kicker. It comes in a little red or yellow bottle...2 oz each. Maybe about $6/bottle or something. It was always the #1 off the shelf product that actually gave significant gas mileage gains but was marketed for emissions.



That is the original RXP formula and has been sold in stores nationally for many years. People who couldn't pass emissions would just put that little bottle in with a tank of gas, drive around for a bit, then pass emissions with flying colors...guaranteed too.

For best results, you wan to go through at least 2-3 full tanks of gas with the additive and during this time...the first tank and a half, the emissions will gradually increase since it goes through a "decarbonization" period.

% Carbon
Monoxide Complete de-carbonization of the engine takes time. Each engine could respond differently. Allow enough time for RxP to do its job.

Then the emission start going down. If you pull your plugs out before and after, you'll be shocked at how clean the plugs are!!

It is just slightly different than RXP Generation II. Gas Kicker is better at dropping emissions and Generation II is a bit better for higher mileage. I think the main difference is that Generation II has x ppm of biodiesel in it. I can't recall off hand.

Anyway, I've seen the 5 gas analyzer tests up close with this product over and over and it works every time...on gas, diesel, kerosine, etc... I add the Generation II to my oil furnace tank. My friend actually developed the first protocols ever that will allow the Chicago Climate Exchange to track trucking companies for emission reduction and allow them to get carbon credits. With the 5 gas analyzer tests, it can show if a trucking company is in compliance and can prove if they are actually using the product if they agreed to use it as their means to reduce emissions. By the way, carbon credits is only one emission credit is given for and this is the one people are learning about...there are credits for all the other emissions like carbon monoxide credits, nox credits, etc...

On untuned high emission diesel rigs, adding the RXP Generation II alone dropped the exhaust temp up to 100 degrees! It didn't give the HP increase like the Firestorm plug claims but when you see temp drops like that...an overheating diesel, you know it is dropping nox through the floor.

That product started as FlameX in the welding industry MANY YEARS AGO and isn't just some newly developed product to capitalize on the rising gas prices. When added to the fuel mix has it mixed in, the flame almost resembles an implosion with very little wasted radiant heat burning outwards so the flame is extremely concentrated to a fine point. Its very interesting!

I don't have experience with welding but the famous example is:

"Welding technician performing a backwash "gouge" cut using FXD."


By controlling the radiance of the flame the metal is left cold enough for the technician to immediately place his hand over the gouged area. This demonstrates the unique burning characteristics of FXD.


The hand can be placed on the metal by it immediately because all the heat was concentrated where you wanted it instead of much being wasted radiating out heating up everything else.

Same effect in engine...the fuel mixture contains more of the heat so less is radiated out to the metal...I know it sounds weird, but that is what actually happens and the engine temperature drops while giving more power.
The formula isn't 100% identical to FlameX..it is tweaked a bit specific for engines.

In a 1996 Saturn sedan 5 speed, on a trip to Seattle a couple years ago...when adding 1/2 oz of RXP Generation II per 10 gallons of gas, I got 43mpg on the highway...(without an efie) and no other modifications on the car except some magnets on the fuel line.

Last June, I drove a 1995 Nissan Altima 5 speed to Vegas and back (from Eastern Washington) and using the same amount (1/2 ounce per 10 gallons), I also got 43mpg average on several tanks. The other tanks were averaging 38-39mpg.

fuel additive

RXP Generation II by far outperforms any liquid additive I have used. Burlington Northern, Alton Southern RR, multiple trucking companies use it, it is the only thing that performs well at all altitudes, etc...

It is a type of methanol/xylene proprietary mix. Just mixing the two in the same proportions won't cut it. It is the process of how it is mixed.

Anyway, it concentrates the heat into the fuel mixture better and helps with a moisture barrier on the walls (not water)...more of the fuel burns, cleans out the engine, reduces emissions.

Pentagon tested in on jet simulator at wright patterson AFB and it reduced particulate emissions by OVER 55%.

DOT in Florida tested over 12% gain in fuel mileage on their fleet.

The bioperformance fuel pills did wonders for me too but the rxp generation ii is more consistent.

I'm going to test it with the efie when I get it installed. Just got it put in a box, bench test went well, not doing pre-installation test.

One Wire Transmission Charging Capacitor

Just a demo.


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The length of time is taking long and longer for shorter and shorter vids.

double surface area?

Hi Glen,

I have no idea what the whole deal on this is but for $15 in parts, I'll try it.

I think you would have to double the surface area of the tube since you have the inner surface as well.

Kiker Battery Booster

Hmmm...

Kiker Performance Product 5
Looks like the one he is selling has smaller diameter loop then what his patent specifies...possibly.

Also, he leaves the normal cable from the starter and just puts that in series.

I'm going to just put the whole tube to the starter and not just in series.

That will be a lower resistance connection than what he shows. Maybe not necessary, I don't know.

Anyway, I'll post more when I'm done installing it.

Kiker Battery Booster

Built this yesterday...about $15 in parts retail cost.





2.5" ID of coil
5 turns
1/4" od copper tube
Vinyl tubing over tube for insulation
battery clamp from Shucks

From battery clamp to bottom of coil (before extra piece is soldered)
is 5 feet long. Then I added 1 extra foot to reach the starter.

Will post vid soon.

battery booster

I'll post a vid and pics of my replication of the battery booster one.

how the Gray Tube works..in my opinion

Hi Aether 22,

I wanted to share with you my insight into the Gray Tube. I saw your posts in overunity.com. I posted this in the Water Sparkplug thread:

How the spark circuit and Gray tube works
Hi Mario,

(Ash, would you be willing to include this entire post in your water spark plug document?)

That is pretty much it.

But I'm sticking to my guns on my explanation that seems to not fit well with some people.

The HV from the coil moves through the HV diode to the + of the low voltage source to ground back to itself...it seeks ground through the diode. That diode is open. When the HV is off, take a volt meter and put the neg on ground and + on the hv diode cathode/output. You will see that you can measure the low voltage side's voltage potential on the output of the diode because the diode is open.

Many people think the diode is automatically closed and won't let the hv through but that isn't true. That is the whole point that diodes have reverse ratings...and if the diodes were automatically always shut, then the low voltage from the annode/input could never get through.

Also, the diode closing is not instantaneous...it is fast, yes, but not instantaneous...once the hv moves through the hv diode...it takes a bit of time for it to get the reverse current through it in order to slam shut.

The HV potential, which is the voltage gas (it is a gas composed of "particles" smaller than a hydrogen atom - smaller than an electron - very, very small fractional charges - Mendeleev's original periodic table of elements showed some of this) has MOMENTUM.

As it is moving, the HV diode slams shut and the voltage potential with its momentum slams against the diode...compressing it more and more...now that re-compressed potential...which is expanded 90 degrees from the wire has to go somewhere...the only path to ground as of now is the gap on the plug. That un-condensed/expanded potential is what causes the primary effect of the cold plasma.

Then, when voltage on the cathode/output of the HV diode drops below the annode/input of the HV diode, then and only then can LV source move out of it and over the gap.

The lv source is not the cause of the effect, it simply can boost the primary effect - which can be had all by itself with one small cap that is virtually empty when discharged to the primary.

Primary effect is that potential slamming against a diode.

Many think the simple hv spark jumping a gap is enough to ionize the gap to reduce the resistance enough to have the lv source follow it...that is simply a fairytale.

Only the recompressed potential against the diode's abrupt shut off can cause the cold plasma ionization that is necessary to allow the lv source to follow. At this circuit's scale of operation, this is all necessary to make these effects.

This is a method of "splitting the positive" that Bedini has shown for years in the open but nobody really got it. If I am wrong, I apologize and will correct all my explanations but until then, that's my story and I'm sticking to it until proven wrong but following the logic of all this, it is very consistent with what Tesla explained, it is consistent with other technologies that utilize this concept, etc...

Working of the Gray Tube

This will put what I'm saying into context with something that many people have studied but I am not sure anyone gets it. Many are convinced in all the free electron concepts in the Gray Tube, etc... McGratten mailed me a package about 7 years ago with that explanation but I always saw it happening in a different way.

The Gray Tube has a low voltage rod and high voltage rod. Low voltage rod has a diode on it that has the cathode/emitter pointed towards the gap. Low voltage source can be any low voltage source and Gray showed he used a 12v battery...the neg of that battery is connected to the neg of the HV capacitor at 3000-4000 volts and a few uf's. The + of the hv source goes to the hv rod.

(-)12vdc(+)diode->(gap)(+)3000vdc(-)

I have made the Gray tube analogy to the spark method and most have automatically thought that they look at 2 gaps and think they serve the same purpose. I'll show you why the 2 gaps have nothing to do with each other but why they are making the same effect. It is necessary to actually understand how the Gray tube works in order to see what the real analogies to the spark plug circuit are.

When the low voltage side is connected by commutator, whatever...the hv source immediately sees path to ground...it sees that the diode is open and has conductivity to the low voltage source which has conductivity to ground which is its own ground...it jumps and as soon as it moves through the diode for a small unit of time, the diode slams shut....only a small fraction of the hv potential made it through.

That hv potential from the cap slams against the diode and compresses against it very strongly forcing it to explode 90 degrees from the wire outwards...the only other path to ground it by going to the grids...through the electromagnet that pulses a magnet or other electromagnet to provide motive force on a motor to a + on another low voltage source and that lv source has a - that winds up being connected back to the hv -'s.

Take a balloon and push it flat against a wall. It compresses and the contents of the balloon wind up exploding 90 degrees perpendicular to the direction of original propagation.

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The gap in the Gray tube is simply a mechanism to get the HV to jump into a diode with a lv potential sitting on it so that it can move into it to have the diode slam shut to compress the potential against it.

The secondary discharge from ignition coil is a mechanism to get a HV to jump into a diode with a lv potential sitting on it so that it can move into it to have the diode slam shut to compress the potential against it.

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The Grids on the Gray Tube are the secondary path for the expanded potential to move to ground.

The ground on the spark plug is the secondary path for the expanded potential to move to ground.

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Here is what this method is:

You are giving the HV 2 paths to travel in order for it to move back to its own ground or relative ground.

1 path is a high resistance path
1 path is a low resistance path

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The Gray tube high resistance path is out to grids back to ground.

The water sparkplug circuit's high resistance paths is over spark gap back to ground.

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The Gray tube low resistance path is through the diode to lv side back to ground.

The water sparkplug circuit's low resistance path is through the diode to lv side back to ground.

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1. The HV will choose the low resistance path FIRST
2. Diode slams shut expanding that potential
3. Expanded potential (electro-radiant event) has only the high resistance path left back to ground.

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So when it is explained that the hv spark jumps the gap ionizing it to reduce the resistance of it and have the lv source follow it...it incorrect.

And seeing the analogy in comparision to the Gray tube, that popular explanation of how Luc's spark method works would be the same as claiming that this is how the Gray tube works:

The hv from the hv cap first jumps to the grids ionizing the air to reduce the resistance of it enough for the 12v battery potential to jump from the low voltage rod to the grids...all the while never needing the hv to jump the gap in order to slam against the diode.

We know the above is NOT how the Gray tube works but that is what people are claiming when they say the Spark plug circuit works by the hv simply going to jump over the gap to ionize it for the lv source to follow.

using lv potential

I think chopping those low voltage potentials very fast into a coil and take the spikes to charge a cap to higher voltage might be doable. Those caps at high enough could then be pulsed to a battery when high enough.

Of course whatever is chopping it will probably take power but if the concept can just be proven...all the rest is details.

Thanks for posting about this Rosco. There are more synchronicities than I have time to type!

Anyway, this link has 5 patents by Harvey Kiker on this method.

Harvey Kiker | Patents | Kiker Performance Products

The battery booster patent and the spark plug wire patent...the latest spark plug patent shows a smaller wire wrapped around the larger wire.

Homepage:
Kiker Performance Products

I would recommend everyone read the patents first then do the analysis of the S1R coil to see what similarities are there. The patents are short, easy and straight forward.

Joule Thief

Marcel,

With that effect you got, if you slapped a magnet on top of the coil, it would probably start again.

Search for the "Joule Thief" circuit..it is in this forum somewhere. You can see another method to make the circuit oscillate no matter what.

self runner setup

That is one of my trifilar sg coils. 3rd wire backwards from the power/trigger. 2000 turns. Circuit is identical to roller skate wheel energizer but I have 5k+ resistance on the base.

30,000uf cap on front and same on back...back cap feeds back to front. stick ground wire (-) to the neg on output cap and I get that effect...I've done a lot of radiant "conditioning" with those caps...and am not really sure how much of a difference it makes for this application but it does make a difference in others.

Self Running Bedini SG Oscillator

Here's one:
YouTube - Self Running Bedini SG Oscillator

above link is no longer valid - youtube scrapped
all my vids...


here is an updated link:
YouTube - Self Running Bedini Oscillator

This thread is for any Bedini SG circuits that are modified to self run....or at least attempts to self run.