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Dr. James DeMeo's new upcoming book

Thanks for your feedback Yaro!

I can't wait until Dr. DeMeo releases his new book in about a month that details dozens and dozens of experiments that show positive results for the aether. That includes interferometer experiments and others.

I just got back from a road trip that was nearly 4000 miles over the last 2 weeks and had the chance to visit Dr. DeMeo's lab. It was awesome - he has done a LOT of hands on work and is doing some amazing experiments.

Water into Oil

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audio

MerLynn wrote:

Water into oil and it being burnt.

see...

use the password wizzzard777
The first vid with Joe Booker has the audio cut off after a bit - why not leave the audio playing so we can hear the whole thing?
* NEW RELEASE * JAMES DEMEO, PHD - TWO PRESENTATIONS ON ETHER AND ORGONE

We're honored to have Dr. James DeMeo present at the 2019 ESTC. He is one of the world's leading authorities on Wilhelm Reich, which includes the science of Orgone - a form of energy that is crucial to life, it is able to be cultivated and even used to assist biological systems, which you'll see.

NOTE: Keep in mind that the introductory special expires in 48 hours. You can get BOTH videos for only $3 more than the full retail price of one presentation!

His two presentations are: Cosmic Ether Exists: Correcting a Major Error in Modern Science and The Orgone Energy Accumulator: Experimental Confirmations and New Water-Structuring Evidence





Get your copies here: Cosmic Ether Exists: Correcting a Major Error in Modern Science and The Orgone Energy Accumulator: Experimental Confirmations and New Water-Structuring Evidence by James DeMeo, Ph.D.

The first is an overview of the ether and then an insurmountable volume of facts and data that cannot be refuted regarding the reality of the ether. These verifications have been going on for a century and continue to this day but chances are that you've never heard of them - possibly because it disproves Einstein's ether-less Theory of Relativity in a very simple and wholesale manner. This presentation is so important that it should be required study for anyone to graduate from high school because the facts presented literally change everything regarding the foundation of physics starting with time and space and everything built upon that.

The second covers many verifiable facts about the orgone energy discovered by Wilhelm Reich who was Sigmund Freud's #1 student. This presentation is required study for any interested in the forces of nature. The simple orgone accumulator built correctly can violate thermodynamics in a number of ways and the most tangible is the fact that inside of it, even if the door is open, a warmer temperature is measurable, which never comes into equilibrium with the surrounding temperature! If you want to delve into a self-organizing, negentropic device, then this is it and it is very simple to build and demonstrate.

WATCH THE FREE EXCERPTS ON THE WEBSITE! There are three - two are excerpts from each of the presentations and one has excerpts from a panel discussion at the conference with discussions of the orgone energy. When you hear what Eric Dollard's personal experience was building a small orgone accumulator and experimenting with it, it will simply blow your mind!

Get your copies here: Cosmic Ether Exists: Correcting a Major Error in Modern Science and The Orgone Energy Accumulator: Experimental Confirmations and New Water-Structuring Evidence by James DeMeo, Ph.D.

It is highly recommended to get a copy of Dr. DeMeo's books The Orgone Accumulator Handbook and Heretic's Notebook. These are PERFECT companions to the presentations.

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water powered jet engine - almost

Ernst wrote:

Looks like we are getting somewhere. Tesla, Meyer, Bedini... who will be next?

I think we largely agree on Meyer's work and how he presents it.
It has given you some ideas that have resulted in a working prototype in the form of a jet engine? That is fantastic! Do you have a video I can see?

Your explanation about extra current from polarizing ether isn't even that far from how I would describe it. But in this simple statement there are still a lot of details to be filled in, not the least of which is that you require an energy source. This energy source is the primary cosmic rays as Tesla calls them and which are -together with the ether- outside the scope of modern science. This energy source can be tapped into if certain conditions are met...

It would be really great if you would help promote my book. I will provide a picture and bio in a PM.


Ernst.

This is only the plasma ignition, recycled exhaust and I haven't gotten to the modified water fuel yet. I have the RF circuitry but need an antenna array - goal was to heterodyne 100mhz and 600mhz on two antenna arrays so that the recycled water vapor moving between the antennas will loses their bonds with low energy - as you know the frequencies mixing will create other frequencies until a theoretical infinite soup of frequencies is created and the nitrogen molecules, water vapor, etc. will result in a random hand swapping to create some nh3, n2o and other products that are used and then constantly recycled to build up a surplus. That is Michael John Nunnerley's method, not mine - I was just trying to replicate his accomplishments.

It took 8 psi to idle the jet before any of the mods like plasma ignition, etc. and it now runs where the propane gauge is sitting on 0 psi because the gauge's scale is too large - I needed 0.1 to 1.0 psi to see what it actually is drawing for that particular fuel nozzle. Anyway, it's a work in progress but is probably one of the most efficient jet engines ever made. Normally the igniter can be turned off when the flame tube is up to temp but I leave it on of course because the plasma dissociates hydrogen from anything it is bound to when it hits the plasma. If I had the time, I'd put a dozen large scale plasma igniters in the end cap instead of 1 regular one.



[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE73bZs-Kl8&t=1s[/VIDEO]


I got the pic/bio - thanks.


I ordered a couple books - one for myself so I can try to understand your perspective better and I sent one to Eric Dollard so I can get his take on it. It's a timely topic anyway as he'll demo a Colorado Springs model at the conference in July.
Extra current

Ernst wrote:

I see you follow the explanation given by Meyer. That is OK, everyone is free to believe in what you feel comfortable with. So without wanting to attack anyone, his explanation does not make any sense to me. But let's try to avoid endless discussions. You have given it considerable thought, I'm sure, and so have I. We are not going to convince eachother.

So.... my explanation why it could work is very different and does involve extra current, generated from cosmic rays. Now I'm sure this sounds like the least probable explanation to all of you but after exploring Tesla's work for as long as I have and having seen what I have in my own experiments I am quite convinced that generating extra current out of "thin air" is possible. The key to doing so is a sawtooth waveform (slow rise, sharp drop), either on its own (DC as with lightning) or AM modulated on a HF carrier (AC as with the QCW).

If anyone can identify such a current in the TPU or the works of Hubbard, Hendershot and Moray, please show me.

For the reasoning behind that allow me to promote my booklet here again. Your buying it helps me out a bit and I'm sure will provide you with new insights in Tesla's work.


Ernst.

I have zero desire to convince anyone of anything. I'm simply shareing where extra current is coming from in the examples I provided. There are about 5 separate currents moving in a lead acid battery when it gets charged and most people are only aware of one.



I also do not follow or agree with Meyer's explanation on many things because as you said yourself, he contradicts himself. The Meyer sycophants can't stand hearing that but fortunately, I am not one of them. In concept, I get what he is saying, but again, there is a 100% failure rate in anyone accomplishing what he was supposed to have accomplished doing it the way he says he did it. I can run my jet engine on almost pure water vapor and I haven't even modified the fuel yet so what I see is that the majority of what Meyer claims is not even necessary. I believe there are plenty of red herrings in his work and some are more obvious than others.



Extra current can show up from outside of the medium being polarized, which is different than the examples I gave before. If there is a sharp enough gradient, it will polarize the aether and that polarized and condensed aether will move into one of the two reference points for a potential difference, will move towards ground and is extra electromotive force or Heaviside flow not provided by the circuit. That in turn generates more current to move in the opposite direction. This is the case with the plasma ignition for example where there is more current than can be accounted for from the capacitor that is discharged so is sourced from outside of the spark gap. It's from the ambient aether and not from comsic rays. This also does not dispute anything you are saying, nor does it try to convince you of anything. This is simply another example of more current showing up than is provided by the input source.



Anyway, looking forward to learning more of what you are talking about and I will buy a couple copies of your books for myself and others. If you can provide a picture and bio, I can share it again in my newsletter if you're interested.



Here is the same stairstep waveform with one of Bedini's energizers, which is like what you see in Meyer's diagram:



Extra current?

Ernst wrote:

Thanks for the reference! That is indeed the one I meant.

I have been working on this (=creating this wave form with sufficient power) too with MOSFET's and although some people on the internet have booked success, I have met failure after failure. I have found that those who have been successful use IGBT's in parallel. See QCW
As I am looking for higher frequencies IGBT's are not an option and so I have switched to vacuum tubes as well. There is a bit of a learning curve but the end result is definitely more robust than with semiconductors.
Of course Tesla did not use these but by using an "extra coil" you can work with just a spark gap and get the same effect. So far I have been partially successful replicating this the Tesla way, that is no over-unity but there definitely is a clear increase in current coming from... somewhere outside of established physics.
Anyway, if you start exploring in this direction, please keep me/us informed.
Perhaps we can share some useful tips. Isn't that the idea behind this forum?
If done correctly I am pretty sure you will find some amazing results


Ernst.

When there is time to complete the complex waveform generator, I'll share what we're doing. I hope to be able to present it at the 2020 ESTC. Eric will be up here before the conference for some testing on a project and maybe we can get a head start on that generator. At least we have all the equipment to make the panel mount chassis required and I already have the Navy racks to put it in. Will have about 3 components rack mounted with the massive 100+ pound RCA transformer on the bottom.



When electrostatically ripping water apart, there is current that is sourced from the water's covalent bonding electrons that move towards the positive and that is current that didn't come from what is applied to the plates.



The same with batteries charged with the inductive spikes - it polarizes the chemistry and internal charging currents are formed in the battery that didn't come from the inductor. There is a little bit of current from the inductor of course, but the charging current is more than can be accounted for from the circuit, which is deduced by discharging the battery according to the manufacturers rated capacity and seeing that it did indeed provide more than can be measured from the inductor.



You might find the Tay Hee Han patent interesting. Korean guy with barium titanate plates building up a voltage potential to about 40kv+ over a small gap and it dissociates distilled water by electrostatically ripping the water apart.



I had a very crude replica of that invention and it failed, but I'm guessing that the step charging waveform would be the most effective for that kind of water capacitor in order to see something unusual. Patent is here: https://patents.google.com/patent/US4427512A/en

All of these are similar in that respect that there are internal currents formed that did not come from the applied electricity and come from the very medium that is being polarized or charge separated in between two "plates." Not sure if that is along the lines of the extra current you're referring to but is what I'm familiar with.
Self Acting Engine

Looking forward to see what you come up with!



Eric Dollard helped me design a water system that is along these lines - it is a high power unit using a high fidelity RCA AM transmitter transformer from the 1940s - basically a complex waveform generator. It was a miracle getting that transformer and every single vacuum tube that Eric preferred. I have all the parts and will finish it when I get a break from the Multiwave Oscillator manufacturing. My guess is it will be along the lines of what you might have in mind.



I'm sure a variation can be done solid state - not sure if it would be as good but in any case, Eric will always choose to go the old-school route. It will be a museum piece in that respect.



Anyway, here is a blog post I did back then with references to the work that you describe for anyone that wants to take a look: https://emediapress.com/2016/06/22/t...acting-engine/
Stan Meyer & Tesla?

Ernst wrote:

Thanks for your response, Aaron.
If what you are saying is true, then there is no link with Tesla's work.
I have briefly dug into Stanley's work and found many contradicting statements even in his own words.
Most i-net sources say that it produced much more (I have seen a factor 1000 mentioned) H2 and O2 then one would expect from the current and that later reproductions by others produce what they call Brown gas.
There was a British association for advanced energy (or something along those lines, can't find it right now) that confirmed the unusual amount of gas produced.
I don't want to enter into discussions on this point because my knowledge is only from one day i-net browsing and from what I found, which includes many of Stan's own words and drawings, I'm led to believe that he accidentally stumbled on something which he then tried to improve upon without really understanding what was going on.

So, in short, from what I read (and hear) it did concern the amount and if so, then I can see a link with Tesla's work. If it was not the amount but the quality of the gas, then there is no link.


Ernst.

There are ionization elements to Meyer's design using high voltage - those came way after he appeared to be ionizing nitrogen with a catalyst. Taking water gas and oxygen and stripping the oxygen of electrons to make it so positively charged that it is unstable so that when the mixture is ignited, the hydrogen can't bind to the oxygen and reform into water. The whole point was to get the thermal energy out of the water gas so it burns like gasoline and doesn't just detonate and shrink in volume like detonating water gas.

Right in the beginning of his tech manual, he discusses separating water with with voltage instead of current - so the dielectric separation of water or electrostatically pulling it apart vs. electrolysis with current. That applies to the circuit you show, which is supposed to build up the voltage in the WFC until dielectric breakdown where suddenly a lot of hydrogen is supposed to be released and is supposed to be more than is conventionally thought to be possible. However, all I've seen pursuing that route by the "experts" are a 100% failure rate in producing anything other than the expected amount of gas from pulsed electrolyzer circuits and some are more sophisticated like PLLs, which only make that job a bit more efficient, but nothing out of the ordinary. Meyer did use PLL at one time.



In principle, I see where the step charging is supposed to build up the polarization to a point where there is a breakdown and suddenly a massive amount of gas is released, but just have never seen it happen.

If that is related to Tesla, you would know better than I. Does it seem related to you?

Russell Bourke created the world's most efficient engine. I know someone who has one that tested to be a bit over 85% efficient. In some of Bourke's older work, which was compiled by his wife Lois, there is enough there to deduce that Meyer must have received some inspiration by studying his work based on quite a few things Meyer says and what he was trying to do. That however is more related to the combustion physics of the elements and not much to do with the electrical side of things.
Stan Meyer's circuit

The "step charging" effect is used in Bedini's comparator cap dump, but not sure if you want to keep that in the same category but the WFC is a capacitor.

In any case, Meyer was not making large, magical amounts of electrolyzed water gas, it was the change in the quality of the gas that was of important. He was creating synthetic gas on demand. Ionizing nitrogen and then getting H from the water to bond to it's strong +3 charge created ammonia on demand. That was recycled from the exhaust to the intake building up and condensing the supply.

I show that in Meyer's own words and diagrams where he spelled out clearly the key to his fuel method was nitrogen. The Meyer "experts" deny the facts. Later on, Meyer hid this fact by simply referring to "non-combustible" gases. You can see the original references that debunks all their claims that Meyer never did anything significant with Nitrogen in his process. Stan Meyer's REAL Original Water Fuel Method - A & P Electronic Media

Everyone who was around the buggy said the exhaust that was vented smelled like ammonia and Meyer even admitted it to Mike N. in the UK in early 90's when he was there for a conference.

Anyway, not to take away from the point you're making, but too many Meyer fans are stuck in the resonant frequency nonsense with the VIC circuit. All it does is make electrolyzed, commonly ducted water gas more efficiently than conventional brute force steady DC. Violating Faraday's Law of Electrolysis is simple but the amount of times over someone has to be in order to produce enough gas to run an engine is many orders of magnitude above what anyone is demonstrating - that ought to give a clue to them that there is something else - which I describe above. Not volume, but quality changes in the fuel.
plasma impulse for hho production and battery charging

moflint wrote:

Hi Aaron - this seems like a good candidate for high HHO production, ie., replacing the motor coil with HHO cell. I can't find any discussions on this on here. Do you know if this is being discussed any threads here... and have you tried this?

Thanks,
Mark
Hi Mark,

I did some crude experiments about 10 years ago and would like to revisit it at some point. Also put a battery there in place of the motor to charge it with the impulses - that worked also but I was afraid to blow it up. Would also like to revisit that as well.
plasma impulse motor

Vinyasi wrote:

Five minutes and forty-seven seconds into the movie, "schematic walk through", you mention the position of a motor coil in series with the spark gap. And this is duplicated in the jpg file, "plasmaignitionmotor".

What if a battery were to be placed here instead of the motor coil for recharging / reconditioning purposes?

Would the battery fry? Explode? Have you tried it? Is it already a feature of Bedini chargers?

{But you came up with this on your own independent of John and Peter's work? So, it must be different enough to warrant this question?}

Since you're excising your right to compress time to deliver more joules per pulse, is there a limit to how many pulses per time frame a regular lead acid battery could tolerate these massive explosions of energy?

Or, if this is too much of a charge for a single battery to take hold of, then what if this pulse were to be distributed in parallel among an entire battery pack in an EV? Say, 12 to 24 batteries each of 12V? Then, the auxiliary battery under the hood powering the lights and radio could be the one powering the plasma charger while the car's alternator could recharge this auxiliary battery?

I guess this is a noisy method of driving around while simultaneously recharging?

Thanks for your work on this package. Great stuff.
Yes, I have put a battery there - was one of the earliest experiments I did. It charged the heck out of it - that was 10 years ago. I didn't keep it going because I was afraid to explode the battery but in any case, it is a massive impulse to deliver to the battery and it certainly works.

The concept of delivering an impulse to the battery was certainly from John Bedini but this method was all mine. I alluded to this in the past, but never did much with it. I'd actually like to explore it more as time permits.

I don't know the limit on the pulses - I'm sure at a high enough amp peak pulse it could certainly be dangerous.

Paralleling batteries is probably safer or just making sure a single battery is big enough.

Thanks for your support - glad you enjoyed the video!
timing

jim glinski wrote:

Yaa timing with hho it's 2% Past TDC but I'm seeing before TDC on some of the vids .must be different with water plug .?
My plasma ignition can be close to TDC but it also accelerates the combustion process. Have to find the optimum experimentally. But the main point is to have it spark every 2 rotations. I was going to do it electronically, but there are advantages to timing gears.
generator and plasma ignition timing

jim glinski wrote:

If get this right you set up jet engine and used fuel and water mix with the hivoltage plug ?
Then adjusted the fuel down to zip ? If that happens with the generator that's a major up grade.. I doubt I can afford a big new generator but I've seen the big three phase motors used as generators in roto verters and I have several .so Im going to harbour freight for a five HP vertical 4 cycle and use that to hack .then join the two with pulies . I've got a sonic fogger ..cheap ..on eBay .the five horse ..if I can find one ...should be easy to get the key slot cut . this could really be something with out waiting years .I saw another motor running on a water spark plug on you tube ..I think it was water only and very primitive set up . good hunting .
Fuel gauge is to high of scale to see what it is using. I need 1/10 of that so I can see 0.1 to 1.0 psi - the needle is touching zero psi but it of course uses a bit.

I'd recommend putting on gears on the generator shaft so it only fires once every two rotations to eliminate wasted spark. If you use hho, you'll want that so it doesn't get detonated before you want it. Plasma Ignition | Plasma Jet Ignition - Page 41 Scorch removed the vid, but if you search online, its a great way to go for the timing.
carb and plug

jim glinski wrote:

Aaron thank you for your input .hearing about a generator running on water is like blood in the water for me . I thought you may have got there .it deserves a close look ..after all your work it might not take much to get it over the goal line .. Water would be perfect for energy .available and green as it gets . yes that dead short on refrigerator start up is like the problem that happens in RV's when AC unit's fire up its fixed with a large inverter .and battery's .acting as a buffer against the dead short ..so were just looking at a carb problem ? Do these water plugs last very long ?? Well good hunting and God Aaron . thanks again Jim
It is just a carb problem. I'm going to use George Wiseman's carb enhancement on it - will just tap the bowl above the fuel level with a tube and draw a suction on it with a regulator valve - the more vacuum on the bowl, the less fuel will get sucked up through the jet - infinite variability.

The plugs will last quite a while as long as you only use the small capacitance caps in the MSD or CDI units. They need to be non-resistor and will still wear faster than normal, but for $1.50 per plug and a minute to change them, not a big deal to me. And as often as I will need the generator, which is not going to be very often, a plug will last a long time.
Champion generator

jim glinski wrote:

https://youtu.be/Fh6qzBsEf4M

This looks like it but the date's off .I might have seen a reposting .I think this might be a easy way out of trouble .concerning emergency .off grid living ..wish Aaron would chime in he's not reachable .
Hi Jim,

That Champion generator does have the plasma ignition, but it runs on gas. I used it to charge a backup battery bank in my boiler room and it was also running some appliances. At first, I was using the stock ignition with the magneto - I can switch back and forth between the two.

Everytime the refrigerator would kick on, it would kill the generator even though it is rated more than the peak surge of the compressor. This happened one to many times and I got tired of going out to restart the generator and realized I had the plasma ignition on there. I switched to that and it worked 100% of the time - the refrigerator kicked on and as it pulled an extra load on the generator, it kept running as if nothing happened. So that is a practical benefit of the plasma and shows it does indeed release more energy from the same amount of fuel.

It doesn't run on water - I wish it did. My experiments with that generator didn't get there yet. The main issue is that no matter how lean you can get the motor to run, the stock carb jets will still suck the same amount of fuel into the airstream so it sabotages all benefit. When time permits, I need a fully adjustable system so I can actually lean out the fuel as much as I want. Then I can start experimenting with alternative fuels.

H2 Global by Walt Jenkins

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H2 Global by Walt Jenkins
Most water fuel researchers and developers are focused on methods to separate hydrogen and oxygen from water with electrolysis (running electrical current through the water).

However, there are other ways that are much more efficient and effective. With only hundreds of miliamps, Walt Jenkins can run an engine with 95%+ water.


Although this presentation is not a full disclosure, he does share some concepts regarding this method that point people in the right direction. Keep in mind that this is the first time he has given a presentation to the public.


Moray King considers Walt Jenkins to be the modern-day Stan Meyer and that is a very strong statement coming from a leading authority on water fuel technologies. Help us bring more awareness to the work of Walt Jenkins so we can have clean fuel for a clean future!

Learn more here: H2 Global, Clean Fuel for a Clean Future by Walt Jenkins





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Dr. LaViolette beings with a discussion on the Sun Cell developed by Black Light Power Corp., a technology that could one day power and heat our home. It is able to capture energy released in water from the transition of hydrogen atom orbital electrons to subground energy states. While this behavior is not anticipated by standard quantum theory, the novel physics methdology of subquantum kinetics (SQK) does allow this.

At the same time SQK can explain the operation of the Nassikas superconducting magnetic thruster, a device which per unit thrust weight provides over 1000 times more thrust
Go here to learn more about TWO OVERUNITY TECHNOLOGIES AND A THEORY TO EXPLAIN THEM: Dr. Paul Laviolette - Two Overunity Technologies and a Theory to Explain Them

Bourke Engine Documentary

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Today, we released the Bourke Engine Documentary - the Bourke Cycle Edition.

It is difficult to find an original copy of this book (at a decent price) that was assembled by Louis Bourke, Russell Bourke's wife. It is one of the most important pieces of work when it comes to engine science and being that Russell Bourke created the world's most efficient engine, it's highly credible.

The Bourke Cycle Edition means that there are other documents included discussing the real Bourke Cycle, which were absent from the Bourke Engine Documentary. So this is a RARE book with rare documents that accompany it.

If you study this book closely, you may see that it is possible that Stan Meyer received his original inspiration from this book when you study the concepts of nitrogen as explained.

When you read the concepts about the Thermonuclear Engine - you may see that Papp may have received his own inspiration from this work.

There are too many powerful concepts to discuss in one single post, but if you have any interest in combustion or actually hydrogen detonation science in the context of running an engine, this is THE most authoritative work on the subject ever produced.

Go here to get your copy: Bourke Engine Documentary - Bourke Cycle Edition