Gated Pulse Frequency Generator Schematic
Started by unknown · · 84 posts · last reply 1 March 2013
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@Ali ...The 4017's are basically the same as the 7490's, its just the 7490's are TTL chips that operate on 5v and the 4017's are CMOS which can operate with voltages higher than 5v like say 10v, 12v, 15v...etc. Both are positive edge triggers. This means that the rising edge of any pulse is how it get its signal and it doesn't do anything with the negative edge or falling edge. Hope this answered your question.
I'm using 7402 NOR just like posted in the image that I posted with the values that Don gave out ( http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php?topic=1965.msg19731#msg19731 ) I have actually built this circuit and it does work as Don said earlier. -
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wow i didnt like connection K yesterday but today is my friend lol. i found that if signal K matches the superimposed frequency it does wat ive been trying to do manually for two days on its own
I did have to add a FWB to the imposed signal .Ive got the rectified am signal at 120hz and connection K at 120 hz , the resonate frequency generator(am) set at 5khz.
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#53 ·
wow i didnt like connection K yesterday but today is my friend lol. i found that if signal K matches the superimposed frequency it does wat ive been trying to do manually for two days on its own
All connection "K" does is if the pressure sensor senses too high of a pressure it will send a high signal to the transistor which will cause the the transistor to be active and then the output to the AND gate will be 0v and this will stop the signal from going to the PLL circuit. Its just a safty feature. -
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wow i didnt like connection K yesterday but today is my friend lol. i found that if signal K matches the superimposed frequency it does wat ive been trying to do manually for two days on its own
All connection "K" does is if the pressure sensor senses too high of a pressure it will send a high signal to the transistor which will cause the the transistor to be active and then the output to the AND gate will be 0v and this will stop the signal from going to the PLL circuit. Its just a safty feature.
Thats cool i can see if the frequency on connection K is higher then it cuts some pulses off for instance in the sim it and the imposed signal is running at 120hz and the output is one for one but if K is raised to 240 hz it cuts the pulses in half and so on. I s that how you see the sensor working or a voltage controlled sensor or something else?
The signal to "K" isn't going to be a pulse signal, its a variable voltage signal from the GMS. -
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wow i didnt like connection K yesterday but today is my friend lol. i found that if signal K matches the superimposed frequency it does wat ive been trying to do manually for two days on its own
All connection "K" does is if the pressure sensor senses too high of a pressure it will send a high signal to the transistor which will cause the the transistor to be active and then the output to the AND gate will be 0v and this will stop the signal from going to the PLL circuit. Its just a safty feature.
Thats cool i can see if the frequency on connection K is higher then it cuts some pulses off for instance in the sim it and the imposed signal is running at 120hz and the output is one for one but if K is raised to 240 hz it cuts the pulses in half and so on. I s that how you see the sensor working or a voltage controlled sensor or something else?
The signal to "K" isn't going to be a pulse signal, its a variable voltage signal from the GMS.
ohhh... thank ya Mr. Tony
sorry bout tha silly posts.... keep up the good work man
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#56 · date not recorded
@Ali ...The 4017's are basically the same as the 7490's, its just the 7490's are TTL chips that operate on 5v and the 4017's are CMOS which can operate with voltages higher than 5v like say 10v, 12v, 15v...etc. Both are positive edge triggers. This means that the rising edge of any pulse is how it get its signal and it doesn't do anything with the negative edge or falling edge. Hope this answered your question.
I'm using 7402 NOR just like posted in the image that I posted with the values that Don gave out ( http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php?topic=1965.msg19731#msg19731 ) I have actually built this circuit and it does work as Don said earlier.
@ Tony... have you tried the figure 6 gate circuit with a variable pulse width input ( from the accelerator figure2)
If so, what does the waveform look like?
does it appear to be able to vary the duty cycle of the gated signals as well? ( as it should, to increase or decrease gas output)
@ All
Is the Control Circuits group figures 2 thru 12 supposed to also work on Stan's later development where the buggy ran on Injectors and a Gas Processor only ( NO resonant cavity) and the new slotted stacked bobbin 6-1 VIC for each injector?
wondering if this circuitry was only designed for the U-I core VIC we have been watching Tony Build???
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#57 ·
@Ali
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#58 ·
@ All
What Stan said in one of his videos is that all the parts could be miniaturized to a few chips. I assume that the separate circuits could be programmed in a micro-controller system on chip at the end.
Is the Control Circuits group figures 2 thru 12 supposed to also work on Stan's later development where the buggy ran on Injectors and a Gas Processor only ( NO resonant cavity) and the new slotted stacked bobbin 6-1 VIC for each injector?
wondering if this circuitry was only designed for the U-I core VIC we have been watching Tony Build???
The Injectors and Gas Processor are also resonant cavities but at a different scale and parameters as the U-I core used for the 10 WFC type resonant cavity.
The resonant cavity is the space (gap) between two electrodes where longitudinal waves are generated and "Resonant Action" occurs.
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Webmug,
Your right about the microcontroller. It's mentioned in the WFC News Release issue no 10. There is a pic of it in that news release. It states that the chip is able to perform 1.6 million logic functions per second. I think I actutally have a picture of his final boards which shows the microcontroller on it.
If you don't have that news release it on tony's site, globalkast.org under documentation.
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Allthough i have been mostly observing, reading and learning on this forum for the last months, i also have started to design, simulate and build my own wfc. Since i have a background in electronics and computer science i decided to base my system on a microchip PIC processor. I think that by using a micro processor you not only reduce the part count it also greatly improves the possibilities to test and debug your wfc since i am able to change parameters or even the entire configuration with in system programing in very little time from software instead of changing entire electronic circuits. I hope to show some early results soon ..... (why doesn't a day have more than 24 hours
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Allthough i have been mostly observing, reading and learning on this forum for the last months, i also have started to design, simulate and build my own wfc. Since i have a background in electronics and computer science i decided to base my system on a microchip PIC processor. I think that by using a micro processor you not only reduce the part count it also greatly improves the possibilities to test and debug your wfc since i am able to change parameters or even the entire configuration with in system programing in very little time from software instead of changing entire electronic circuits. I hope to show some early results soon ..... (why doesn't a day have more than 24 hours
That's great Sharky, looking forward for your results. )
What is your solution for a PLL function in the controller with electronics and computer science background?
Are you clocking the PIC clock dynamically or do you use Software PLL (ADC/DAC) solution. Should be (0Hz - 20kHz) range.
My idea is to build a 12bit SPLL using a ADC or PULSE counter to generate GATED PULSE signal from the DAC on a STM32 SoC.
I don't know if a microcontroller could do 0.01Hz or 0.001Hz steps accuracy for resonance PULSE adjustments.
Maybe a FPGA chip could be handy?
It would be great if you also use a SPPL or have other solutions.
br,
Webmug -
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Well I completed the system and have been testing it for the past couple days. I haven't been about to generator high voltages with the transformer. This could maybe be to the cores that Im using, maybe I need ferrite cores instead of powder iron. I'll have to see if i can get a hold of some of these cores! -
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Wow, Tony, you are really making progress.
I have finished the 8XA, and am tweaking it.
Do you plan on having the schematics and nfo for the resonant scanning circuit on your site at some point?
Kudos to all!
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Well I completed the system and have been testing it for the past couple days. I haven't been about to generator high voltages with the transformer. This could maybe be to the cores that Im using, maybe I need ferrite cores instead of powder iron. I'll have to see if i can get a hold of some of these cores!
You could try OG laminations, so you can cut the way you want it (keep in mind the orientation). Would be difficult to get a ferrite with the specific size of your bobbins, otherwise you would need more bobbins.
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Who built the gated pulse gen like in the patent or like Tony and worked?I tried bouth crkts on breadboard and pcb and none of them worked.... -
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Who built the gated pulse gen like in the patent or like Tony and worked?I tried bouth crkts on breadboard and pcb and none of them worked....
Did you hook it up to a powersupply?
Just kidding......
Do you see a squarewave on yr scope, without having a load to the circuit?
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Who built the gated pulse gen like in the patent or like Tony and worked?I tried bouth crkts on breadboard and pcb and none of them worked....
http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php/topic,2523.msg23643.html#msg23643
Check if you have version 1 pcb of Tony.
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I see a square wave but not the gated signal from the 9xb,and when i increase duty it loses signalWho built the gated pulse gen like in the patent or like Tony and worked?I tried bouth crkts on breadboard and pcb and none of them worked....
Did you hook it up to a powersupply?
Just kidding......
Do you see a squarewave on yr scope, without having a load to the circuit?
Steve -
#69 · date not recorded
the gating with 7402...and the rest is the same like in the patentWho built the gated pulse gen like in the patent or like Tony and worked?I tried bouth crkts on breadboard and pcb and none of them worked....
http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php/topic,2523.msg23643.html#msg23643
Check if you have version 1 pcb of Tony.
Regards -
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this is the output on pin 8 of the 74122attachment_12049 scope.jpg
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The gate is only a mean for controlling gas output, in later design actually it is probably substituted by the injectors signal... think about it... -
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The gate is only a mean for controlling gas output, in later design actually it is probably substituted by the injectors signal... think about it...
What about the stepcharging? -
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The gate is only a mean for controlling gas output, in later design actually it is probably substituted by the injectors signal... think about it...
What about the stepcharging?
From my understanding, the "Step Charging" that Stan refers to is just a way of saying charging a capacitor with pulses, in a step method other than just charging a capacitor with a single applied voltage. -
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The gate is only a mean for controlling gas output, in later design actually it is probably substituted by the injectors signal... think about it...
What about the stepcharging?
From my understanding, the "Step Charging" that Stan refers to is just a way of saying charging a capacitor with pulses, in a step method other than just charging a capacitor with a single applied voltage.
I read your posts and Dons on the thread about the function of the gated pulse...that once the pll finds the res freq of the LC crkt you have to manualy adjust the gating to match the ''cap'' charging times,you pointed that Tony with a graph on how much% the cap is charged by adjusting the gate.
Look at the behaviour of the gated signal when i turn the gate pot on diffrent freq setings(att)attachment_12053 setup.jpg
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#75 · date not recorded
You guys know how to make a simple test circuit for 74122?because i want to know if its broken or not because is expensive to order another one all the way from England!