This is the way we can achieve something, if everyone look in the same direction only following what patents says, we will not solve this in anyway. Meyer was a con in many aspects, we have to admit it, we can see him fooling his investors on the "Stan Meyer Environmental Tape" video from Max Miller:
"Let's see how many energy it relly take to slit the water molecule" showing the voltmeter and ammeter that "really" is connected to the field of the alternator, not to the wfc itself. lol. (look at 19.31)
For people who are seeking the second pulse / Freq. doubling effect I can tell you one thing: You will not see a second pulse alone, but an extend of the "pulse on" in the falling direction, because the inductor(s) trying to maintain the current flow and the stored energy in the magnetic field is colapsing, if you turn on before in colapses you get the "capacitance charging effect".
Timeshell forget this simulators they are not that good as you may thing. I got a lot of experiments on multisim that prove very deceiving in real world, even with real capacitors. All I post here is from bench tests.
From my experiments there will be allways DC unidirectional pulses, and as Meyer said when the pulse terminates, the coils procude another pulse in the same direction: (https://i.postimg.cc/sgrXDqpt/pic-105-4-onoff.gif) (https://i.postimg.cc/XvMtNp05/IMG-20161026-203138.jpg) (https://i.postimg.cc/28gKstVN/meyer-vic.png)
Timeshell BECAUSE THE DIODE coils simply store energy in form of magnetic field not allowing the current to flow intantaneous, and when pulse terminates, it colapses producing an unipolar pulse in the same direction. Other thing than that, in my opinion, is pure fantasy of people who thing they know everything without real bench testing. The only oscillation I experienced in this condition was the Self-resonance of both inductors due to the parasitic capacitance.
Yes, it hold a charge but below 2 Volts, above that electrolysis starts, and conductivity rises in a non-linear way. I never experienced this BEMF from the cell, maybe because I dont use any electrolyte than the minerals and contaminants present in the natural water.
Aussepom welcome back and thank you for your input.
As I already said, I cant see the WFC acting as a capacitor or being reactive like a capacitor. It looks to me like a load and nothing more. Since it have the diode In-line it cant act another way than the DC resonant charging circuit.
Timeshell, yes you are right. But in pratice you cannot convert all the water to gas to tune to the LC frequency, water is allways entering to the cavity. The cell with water behaves like a real capacitor below 2 Volts, up from that the electrolysis starts and the water starts to behave as a non linear load, the more you rise the voltage without restricting amps, the less the resistance and more conductivity.
Lol what is the Rs+Re? Is this a real reactance to you?
Rs - The coil wire resistance Re - The resistive value of water (supposed to be 78.54 ohm)
Look, Im not here do do some "di.ck comparisons" but to talk about the facts. If you think that the cell acts as a real capacitor, just hook it to a freq. gen. with sweep function without the inductors and measure the impedance...
Im still researching Offline, because there is a lot od "distractions" and disinformation. Im following what I see it does, based on Meyer desciptions, not following Ronnie talkie stupid theories. One step a time, form the earlier devices of electrical polarization process, following patents lectures and the technical brief. People thing that they will do magic just tuning the LC... lol My experiments showed me that, at least with water in the cell it will act as a pure resistance, more than that I will not say about that. The Second pulse of the colapsing inductor(s) and the step charge I can confirm, but it is not related to the cell capacitance.
I dont thing so, it cannot resonate with the diode. When terminates the pulse the coils colapse producing an unipolar pulse. This is a simple DC resonant charging not an oscillator. People who tested it can confirm what I am saying. The fantasy of "resonance" of LC died a few years ago. The only possible "resonance" is between each choke inductance/capacitance.
Timeshell thank you for the time you spend to explain that. In my point of view it does not matter to much, since the pulses "hitting" the cell are always unipolar according to Meyer description.
Timeshell, thank you for your effort to show us this.
But, should we trust in a 10 dollar meter ? Do you have access to a more reliable meter such as a fluke or other trusted equipment? This modules uses the LC combination for measurement, others uses the RC scheme for capacitance measuring. My meter does not show any difference thats why I am asking you for it.
Timeshell I measured 1 pair of tubes in both ways and the capacitance is rhe same, as expected. I really dont understand your point. It just dont make sense to me.
Timeshell I still dont understand that part of two cores where primary is in different core than secondary... The choke coupled to the primary will be basically a secondary and the supposed secondary the real choke... Damn, this is confusing...