Steve

hmmm, a riddle......

The Eec is many times mentioned in comby with hho gas.
I think you try to say that the eec is also in place with the wfc?

Steve

The gating should have been done to give the water a change to get back into the wfc.
All the water is supposed to be gone into hho with the pulsetrain.
Water back in wfc, means the capacitor is restored.

This accoording to Meyer.

Hey Steve,
If you are talking about EBN, I had a membership there a while ago. Not sure if it is still valid. They died off a fair Bit when IH hit the wall in his ideas. The core 2- 3 driving that forum sort of ran out of "steam" i don't know what they are up to now though.

No not EBN. That was the public one....

Dear readers,

Since the waterfuelforall forum stopped, Ionizationx is more or less the only open dedicated forum in this field.
As you may know, i am also hosting the old database of the waterfuelforall forum of Wouter.
Is there anybody outthere interested in taking over that database, based on the SMF forum software?
That way you will have good material and info to start your own HHO forum.

Whats in it for me? Totally nothing. Its better to spread knowledge and pictures across two good forums instead of one.
Thats all.

I even want to help you with starting up such adventure......
Just pm me if you have any interest.

Best regards
Steve

I think I must clarify what I mean with single wire:Modified VIC see the atachment.
I have a  50watt watlow piezotransducer glued on a rubber fiberglass which was used for water heating at 120v 50hz would this be good for 43+Khz ?

Welcome to ionIzationx!

Interesting mindwaves!
Have you tried such setup and did you produce any gas?

Steve

Thank you for your interest. How?. By following disclosed procedure.
 
Water is dissociated at 43+ khz, aetheric bond is solidified or caused to compress releasing elements to seperate freely. ZnO oscillates to surplus waves resulting in electrification of water molecules and harmonic resonance amplifies HHO production.
 
Common submersible transducer is used, nebulizer circuit can be used with output voltage altered to achieve required frequency.
 
Key is atomizing chamber with receiver cells plated with ZnO allowing amplifications of interia motion, many geometries will works.
 
"My second discovery was of a physical truth of the greatest importance. As I have searched the entire scientific records in more than a half dozen languages for a long time without finding the least anticipation, I consider myself the original discoverer of this truth, which can be expressed by the statement: There is no energy in matter other than that received from the environment." — Nikola Tesla
  Please replicate and post pictures, I will help where needed.

Hi Powe1,

Of course we are interested in new technology's in creating HHO.
You ask us to start replicating, but i havent seen any schematics, or material choices etc etc.
Please be more specific.

The 43khz is a frequency we have seen more often in the past.......

Do you suggest that you can break water just with sonic waves into H and O?

Steve

Plus those 5 nuts on the inside of the cell...

The cup is brown colored. I have seen that happen in my cells. Nothing special. But in the middle there is a white circle..... Why is that not brown?
Maybe because something was put on that ring?

Another possibility
 
There is a short video segment at the end of the long dune buggy video (9 minute version)
where Charlie and Stan Graumlich  are assisting the tightening down the top of the reaction chamber with the comment "That'll about do it" prior to the run down the road.  Were they puting in a critical part or just checking prior to buggy run that all the seals were tight?

Which video do you mean, Jim?

I was more thinking in somekind of ultrasone module orso...

Hi members,

I want to do some thinking with you about the following theory.
I just want to turn the thinking around. a 180 degrees......

It is known that when you apply for a patent, that you might leave 1 component out to protect the finding.
It is also known that Stan Meyer was very suspicious against everybody and that he dismanteld some components from his car during the time he was out or at sleep.
So, here's the question:
What kind of component(s) do we miss?
What part could have been removable which we do not know about?

My theory is that it MUST have been the MOST important part of it all. Probably a part that MUST be installed in the waterfuelcell. Without that part, the High voltage would not work......
Without that part, no efficiency will be achieved....

So, again....what kind of component could it be?



Steve

These are from the Xogen patents.
Steve Meyer was involved there. Not Stan.

Later some dude Alaskastar, i believe, also used the same schematics.
Not sure if this coil can change para and ortho hydrogen.

Steve

Well, no current would be nice, is it..

Anybodys input is welcome here, Ali. We appriciate Sebosfato,s input.
Thank you for yours


Steve

Would it matter if he was fraud?

It would mean that many of us have spend their private money on something that never could work.....
But thats just my opinion...

 

Hmmmm,

So the recording equipment of the court was simply not working that day?
That sounds like somekind of on purpose, is it not?

Steve

Please read and comment on this....
Source: http://www.project.nsearch.com/forum/topics/how-to-run-your-car-or-truck
Please keep an open mind after you realize that most of it is Fast Freddy stuff.
At the bottum i found the following note:

Hydroxy borrows energy to seperate the atoms, borrows more energy to put back the same volume you put in----no gain. Now compress the H2 and O2 to 80 psi adding steam to bond the molecules while being ionized by the positive charged case, and the extra atmospheric thermal ionic transferance formulates an new energy molecule in the form of plasma. When exposed to the vacuum of the combustion chamber during the intake stroke, it expodetially expands, and when recompressed during the compression stroke and ignited by the spark plug causes a massive combustion more than enough needed to fulley power any combustion engine...

What if the end result of Meyers system was to create a die-electric breakdown, like Lindemann explained?
Just a big discharge of a certain amount of joules in a certain amount of time?


Just a bit like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj1pkyCL75E&feature=related

Accelerated electrolysis... I like the sound of that! Although, as I and others have stated before, Even if we could make a much more efficient way of splitting water, the HHO still is not powerful enough to run a load no matter how much we can fit into the cylinder. That only leaves us one other option... Increase the potency of the gases. More bang for your buck!

They send up rockets in the sky with help of HHO, to the moon.....
 

One of Stan Meyers one liners, was the line:
Nobody ever thought on using an accelerator system.

Does this mean that he did use electrolysis, as stated in the testreport, with help of an accelerator?
Meaning better performance?

Steve

Hi Dave,

Well, thats one of the things that is odd about Meyers design.

About the source for the 250 waves, well, that depends on the source. Some have a wide frequency ange from below 200nm till whatever.
For sure, Stans patents and pictures show nothing usable, except for the idea it self.  Red LEDS doing what? Much to low on power to be able to do something usefull!
Tubes doing ionizing air? In which century?
Google on ionizers and you find what you need...