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Yes, this is a big question.
I heard Stan says in a video the wfc operates on 0 - 2000 Volts,
I have also read that you need at least 1500 Volts to start the molecular ringing.
Kilovolt and milliamp pulses with twenty thousand cycles across the excitors is said to shake the molecules apart.
The alternator could have been used as a "hertz machine" and combined with a pulse circuit it may reach 20.000 Hz
He says he is doing the exactly opposite of the electrolysis proses.
Maybe he was taking OUT electrons so the water molecule collapsed?..
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Hey! here my desing im working on. With around 2 teaspoon of baking soda im getting around 14 amp at 12V with two of those device in serie. Planinng to get up to 6 if thing goes well... in the pictures all the plates to the right are connected togetter and same for those on left
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Here is a Hydro_star, built near 7 years ago.
Never did like it too much and the costs were very high for my first build.
Inside is exactly what the first set of plans instructions have with the recommended parts.
The water level switch, the wound magnetic toroid, large tube diameter but only 5-6" long with a very tight precision gap.
All the PVC rings made and mountings assembled just like the instructions.
I do not recommnd the short tube_set. If you try the Hydro_star make a real large one.
Also still have the first circuit that did not work.
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Hello,
shipping from us is complicated, because of all the tax stuff, but some people are living in europe and could probably help me.
i search for cheap 304/316 tubes but i can't find a good shop for it, preferably germany or surrounding countries if they ship to the whole eu.
I only now the courtiestown.uk shop, but it's very expensive. Probably you know a cheaper alternative.
Thanks
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I thought this would relative to the topic.
I did an experiment last night since someone told me AC electrolysis doesn't work so I had to prove it to myself using Puharich's patent as a guide (sort of).
I had gotten a low watt inverter circuit to play with a while ago to replace the one that burst into flames previously. It had a short somewhere in the tubular array I was using. Poof.
Anyway the circuit came without a center tap transformer. One wire connects positive and the other 2 wires switch to ground. I connected the positive to all the outside tubes and one ground wire each to half of the set of inside electrodes. I used one diode after the positive between the inverter and wfc. It worked but not especially impressively and different coil configurations except for one would trigger a breaker in the circuit. At least no flames this time. I'm now considering daisy chaining the pwm that I have inbetween the inverter and the wfc. Fingers crossed.
Andy
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Hi steve, cool but i think would split only the urea don't?
However I got more infos to tweek our minds...
I want to come back to Stan messing up with ionization word meaning ...
Today i got a lesson about bases and salts...
There are bases like
NaOH-
Ba(OH)2
Fe(OH)3
This when in aqueous solution ionize and become
NaOH- ----------+H2O------==== Na+ (aq) + OH-
Ba(OH)2 ---------+H2O------==== Ba2+ (aq) + 2OH-
Fe(OH)3 ---------+H20-------==== Fe3+ (aq) + 3OH-
I'm believing that the way find Stan secret is:
1 Build My proposed Resonant tank. Comprising huge inductor ( 1mh about 30meters of wire about 5mm thick and + home built rolled capacitor with polypropylene film and copper foil... )
2 Build 2 stainless steel cells comprising one inside and one outside tube for each cell. (with antiparallel diodes as i proposed)
3 Add a multimeter in parallel with the cells and try every type of electrolyte!!!!!!
When you find an electrolyte (acid, base or salts) or combination thereof that makes the voltage on the cells to drop under 1,24 volts just JUMP AND CELEBRATE!!! and Tell us...
Regards...
To operate probably the resonant tank wont be necessary if you make it series cell, however to discover the right electrolyte will be needed because is the only way to have the current to pass thru the water with min possible voltage...
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There is still another thing i thought today...
Its about ionization.
Today in a chemistry lesson I learned about acids. I learned that an acid will dissociate in aqueous solution into hydrogen ions H3O+ and Anions example H2SO4- will dissociate into 2H+ and SO4- Anion.
Ok why is it related?
Do you remember when i said that we could just need to find a way to pass the amperage thru the water at a lower than 1,23 volts for it to be overunity?
Well i noticed some relation to the ionization of the water mentioned and all that 4th stage of ionization (myth) with cations or anions with charges of +4 or -4
For example in my tests with the cell in series with the "tank" i got the min voltage across the cell to be 1,44 volts and i was using steel electrodes. I was using NaOH- witch is a base and dissociate forming OH- ions and Na+ cations.
The periodic table is very magic and it have cool proprieties witch allow us to know the propriety the element have accordingly to its position. Things like electronegativity, Atomic weight, size, How much electrons it can gain or lose... For example all the elements on the left column (excluding H) are called bases metals and they only link with 1 electron pair thats why NaOH-. +-
What i'm thinking is that meyer said clearly that stainless steel was indispensable and that faraday would have not discovered his process because there was no stainless steel at his time.
This lead us to think two things
1° that he was using an acid as electrolyte ( as it wont corrode stainless steel) ( he also affirmed that ( because it would not take part into the reaction or something like that)
2° that he was using ultra pure water and didn't wanted it to dissolve iron ions..
The second is less supported by info we have however...
My teacher said that there are acids and cations that can have up to 4+ charge and 4- charge...
That took my attention!
What if a combination of acids and or bases and salts could switch of the covalent bounding???
What if some acid that would attack steel or iron witch were the electrodes faraday had at his time could change the parameters of electrolysis allowing lower voltage to be applied?.
Ferrocianidric acid dissociates into -4 ions and some other 6 acids
phosphoric acid dissociate into -2 or -3 ions (not sure now need to open the book now)
Barium hydroxide dissociate into 2+ i guess
and so on
What i would like to do is to rebuild my "tank" setup with different cells electrodes shapes materials and configurations and acids bases and salts in all possible proportions to check if have something to do with it.
Regards
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New theory about Stanley High voltage Water dissociation:
A Parallel Resonant Circuit herein called tank circuit by its ability to Recirculate and accumulate power in it self, Is known to have also very high impedance at the resonant frequency.
Stan told us that he was using only voltage to break water and that to do so he needed to restrict the current...
While I was doing all my tests about the resonant tank i tried to add to the tank in series and in parallel the cell for trying to generate the h2. I did a many tests as I could imagine and that my and collaborators money allowed me. However just came to my mind something i couldn't and didn't had the idea to test. And Is based on the proposed EEC diagram that meyer posted.
The idea Is all about to charge a resonant tank and than to discharge the tank energy into the water in a particular way.
I will explain better:
Inductance for the more it can behave like a short circuit because of it's low ohmic resistance on its wires, is far less "short circuit" than a Capacitor. Capacitors have negative impedance and it behave like a vacuum sealed compartment that when you open, immediately is replenished with air, capacitors replenish with charge and thats why it is more short than an inductance.
What i'm proposing is.
1° charge resonant tank
2° disconnect the capacitor from the tank when the energy is concentrated into the coil
3° connect or close the circuit (inductance) into the water cell having distilled water there.
Why this could be different?
He clearly said that restrict the current was needed and repeatedly claimed inductance was going to do it.
Point of greatest importance:
A capacitor discharge, discharge all its energy with negative impedance.
An inductance would discharge its energy restricting the current with its positive reactance. (not allowing the current to discharge all in once)
That could change the things as it would really create an electric field that could make physical work on the water.
What do you think about?
Participate Answering to the pool and proposing circuit simulation that could help with this. Edit your older posts cleaning useless informations to help the thread to be organized and clear enough for a first time reader. OK?
Thanks
Best Regards
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Cool, so now is about tune to the water proprieties from what seems to me.
I'm winding a toroid i have here but is very hard cause i need to put lot of insulation cause my wires are pretty old. I think that up to tomorow i finish. Still need to put 700 turns =)
The coils you are talking about are 100 turns like he described? bifilar?
Br
Fabio
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