Steve

Fabio,
 
My current drawings also use 1 fet at the wfc side.....
Your teacher is right in this. Look at the Brian and Steve schematic....also 1 fet
 
More to come..

I think it all end up like Stan said it was....Man, hear me talking...
Most of his VIC schematics show 1 core.
Why? Its all about creating magnetic fields, which create volts and amps....Yeh, i know.
 
To understand it all a bit better, i have a video for you.
 
 

I made 8 drawings....
The best one looks like a bedini circuit....A battery is used to power the wfc and the wfc is charging another battery..... :'(
 
Not yet 1 schematic that is adding that charge up.....
 
Tomorrow another day

You have to understand that the rotor must have volts and current to create a magnetic field.
As soon as the rotor is charged and is moving across the stator, it will create power and powers up the wfc.
In the schematic, you see the power for the rotor coming off the wfc!
 
In your new theory, we must change some things to this schematic.
There must be an extra coil added to the STATOR. That should become your EEC coil.
The rotor must get a 50% squarewave on it. When the rotor goes down on signal, the EEC must pull the charge out the wfc into the extra coil on the stator.
 
If i remember well, Donald or Don told us that the alternator of Stan had indead that extra coil in the stator, btw......
 
 
Let me make a drawing...

We must try to time this right, is it.
The pulse that trickers the primairy must start at the same time as the pulse on the extraction circuit...
 
 
 
 

I think i understand now pretty well what you mean..
 
I found the pic of the return spike of my tubecell...
Here it is..

Check this drawing

 
What you do on this schematic is adding the voltage that you extract to the secondairy voltage? Like normally the secondairy produces 10V. By using the extracted voltage, you basically add a coil like battery to the secondairy.
When the extracted pulse delivers a 10V also, you end up with 20V?
 
Again, i just try to understand..
 
 

And we are thinking with you, Mr. Brasillian casanova..
 
Now to the topic:
The gain of this new idea might be in the freed electrons of the electrolysis proces.
Step 1: charge up the water till a level that the water breaks down into H and O.
Electrons are freed in that proces, not consumend because you cannot consume electrons.
Step 2: take out charge of the water, which not make it a better system....
Step 3: take out the freed electrons.....hmmmmmm
 
Step 2 is putting an electron charge into the metal of the tubes / plates. The metal transfers the charge of the electrons towards the water in which the charge is carried on by ions.
If we start  extracting the charge of the water, then first we will get the charge back of the ions to the plates which will be carried futher as an electron charge into the wires who are hooked up the metal.
 
The question is then how we get the charge of the freed electrons back on the plates.
If the freed electrons are in contact with the metal already, then we might have a case....
 
Then we would make gas, which cost a sertain charge, and then we take the rest of the charge, including the freed electrons back and re-use it...
 
That way we might get a higher efficiency system
 
 
 
Interesting indead..
 

yes man


i'm just figuring out how to make the cell with less money possible
Every time i think i get more absolutely sure...


I'm going to use only the alternator and a small motor to drive it...


When resonance start the alternator will rise its speed because i'll discharge the ions on one of the phase windings.


I just also need to figure out exactly how to connect the alternator exactly


i know that the alternator have the phases different by 120° i guess thus i need to choose the right winding for doing the job.. . still not sure hwo to do this...

Maybe the following helps to make up yr mind.
I seen the ion spike on my scope. I even made a picture of it.
As soon as you use that charge coming of the tubes for example lighting a bulb, you extract
the power from the water, which you just filled.
....
 
 
 
Steve
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

But how would you make a cell that pulls 300 or 1000 amps?
 
Sebos?
 
The thing is that Garret and Horvarth both talk about pulses of around 300 amps.....

I guess meyer used the alternator as a high current low voltage generator, he probably modified the alternator to generate around maybe 10000 amps at around 0,1volts substituting the coils for copper bars...




I say this because today i went to the library where the only copy of the 60's tomlin's book is located here in Br. And i just found that the pump is one of the most important things on the circuit, cause it together with magnetic or electric fields are able to cause physical separation of the h+ and 0h- ions. The electron extraction circuit is nothing more than a way to short this "battery" and than you would need only the huge low tension charge to simply convert the h+ ions into h2...


I already know a way to do this generating the h2 separately from the o2 but i'm trying yet to figure out how meyer did the both gases together as it is way harder... I'm guessing that he used electric fields instead of magnetic but i'm not yet sure how..


Guys the solution was over there for more than 60 years in a book... Do you believe?

A 600 watt alternator could do 300 amps on 2 volts....
Not bad...
 
 

Hello Steve,
Thanks for sharing everything you have so far.
There is a lot of info in the patents you posted. Which particular methods were you able to confirm?

Thanks

Hi Cowboy,

4389981.pdf shows an engine running on HHO with ambient air as regulator. This i have done. It works.
5293857.pdf  adds the ambient air processor and exhaust gasses. I have added on my running engine on HHO my own
                     airprocessor and i seen the positive results of it. I must admitte that adding exhaust gasses didnt do anything at
                     all in my setup, but i am researching on that.

EP0086439.pdf = 4389981
EP0111574.pdf =  4389981
EP0122472.pdf = dito

br
Steve

Hi dear members,

Finally, i got my hands on really good video material from Stan Meyer.
This is material never published before!
He explains all components on the buggy. The story is about the resonance cell and his system with the water injector.

You can order a copy by sending me a PM on this forum.
The video is good quality material.
Price will be 50 usd. incl. shippingcosts

Steve

ok, its fixed.
Go and download!


Steve

 

very odd.

Try number 3

Original zipper....

Finally this document pops up.
Go have a look!

Steve

Digitally Enhanced Meyer Photos, made by Jim Miller.

was hoping someone knew wat all these things are.

pic 1 = waterfuelcell
pic 2/3 = regulator / mixer
pic 4 = watertank level sensor
pic 5 = static waterfilter

those are my 2 cents.

sorry to not post sooner.
 
That is not a cup of gasoline.  Hydrogen is lighter than air, Meyer had to "choke" the motor to keep the hydrogen from escaping.  Once the vacuum of the motor was in effect the "choke" could be removed.

well, why is he shuffeling it so sneaky away?
I know this is not a big thing, but it is at least funny to see him doing that....

Now watch the first 30 seconds of this videos.
See how Stan used some petrol in a cup to startup that bug?
Then he removes that cup very quickly.
The cup is exactly where the carb is...
Stan has put his outlet hose from the wfc directly into the carb.....