Steve

Sure we join in M. Law.

A dielectric is an electrical insulator that may be polarized by the action of an applied electric field. When a dielectric is placed in an electric field, electric charges do not flow through the material, as in a conductor, but only slightly shift from their average equilibrium positions causing dielectric polarization.

The whole issue with Stan Meyer is that water is a conductor.......

im not quite sure steve all i know is they have different characteristics and that stan used them at least in his schematics for operation.. scr's are tricky to use since when latched open they remain open until the holding current drops..

Ok, man.

Steve

The truth is that everybody here is right.

Don, you have read the same papers as i have.
The output of Stans wfc is indead  HHO and thats proven by the test.
You also know that Stan ionized the ambient air by usage of the airgasprocessor.

The proces of making Ammonia is happening after the wfc.

You need in that proces:
1. hydrogen made by electrolysis
2. ionized ambient air
3. pressure
4. electrical discharge

The purpose of the ionizing systems (making ammonia) is for one reason only and that is to slow down the burnrate rate of hydrogen.
Why needed? A quick combustion cannot push a piston down.
You need a certain slow burning fuel, like petrol.

When you are able to slow the burnrate of hydrogen your will get much more efficiency out of it when you use it in an internal combustion engine.

Long story short: you need less HHO.


Stan was a smart man. He tried to help the USA in time of no petrol.
Laws of economics.....Water = free, ambient air = free
By using ambient as a hugh part of the needed fuel, he gained free fuel.

Hi Aaron,

I ran all my engine tests on pure HHO, always in combination with ambient air.
Ambient air does 2 major things.
1. it add volume to the process (engine = airpump)
2. it slows down the combustion rate

The fact of using ionized air helping the process is still under investigation.
But i will know it very soon.
I stopped testing ionized HHO for the moment and i will have an air ionizer soon ready for my engine test.

This test will be easy, because i have my 600cc 4 cylinder engine running on 100%HHO and ambient air.

I will use around 7kv at like 20khz DC/square. Or would AC be better in that case?

Ammonia is probably right. I have some notes here, from a year back.
I will make a separate topic on that, so we can let this topic rest in peace.


regards
Steve

Ps.
Is the Tutanka Alex the same as Alex Petty?

Quote from: Bubz on February 14, 2010, 22:29:58 pm

Dankie, you gotta get off the booze before it kills you!

See Qiman this is what this site has comed to , there is no leadership or no desire to do anything . There is just these hating old guys with a tubular cell  that didnt work and dont understand nothing further than metal and electricity flowing with some pulsing that they dont understand either . Somekind of old depressed town with boozers and a closed factory with 200 habitants .

I must move to the city Qiman .

You cant even come around this site doing stufff cause these guys just hate , but they dont build anything themselves and want everything , se basicly nothing gets posted besides this anecdotal **** about Stan's coloring book . The guys that know a bit dont even bother to come around anymore that much . 90% of em are like ghosts , spooky sometimes .

Shhh ... I dont drink booze @ this hour , in fact I am making an cad design plan for school .

And you gotta get yourself some skills because your skills are monkey see monkey do .

Dankie,

This forum on which you have posted more then 1100 post is now a bad place?
You are really unbelievable.

Mr. Dankie, forum entertainer.....

Quote from: Gauss on January 14, 2010, 11:49:11 am

Anyone read the Quantum keys book from Lindemann and Aaron? I heard from a friend a terrible story: They urge you to hook up your mind to theirs every week so they can tap you off of your information in case you have some.....

Well, mind control is what they are after and their employer should be obvious to anyone in here...

Fact is they never presented anything functional in 30+ years, just wasting your time. Aaron once said he "saw" his first Gray engine in -94...... Where and how did that happen??....

Forget them and keep working open source, my advice.

Steve, have you considered for one minute that "no more questions" simply means he is too busy
with his own life and work to answer questions that he has answered over and over for years
online? Sometimes, the easiest and most common sense explanation for something like that is
the right one.


Feel free to boot me Steve for defending myself here if you want.

If this badmouthing of myself and my friends are what goes on here, I don't think I can benefit or
contribute from this forum.

Hi Aaron,

The answer is no. The answer Peter gave, came on to me like it came from a person who felt himself too big to give answers to the "simple" man.
It might be my intepretation of the english language, which is not my native language. I understand and respect your point of view and i have no intentions at all to boot you. You speak from the hart. I do too.
If i was in your shoes, i would do the same as you are doing.
No worry.

Again, my first writing on your forum was done from a dissapointment feeling.
Please tell Peter that i am sorry for not reading his words well. If i am wrong, then i am man enough to say that i was wrong.


Steve

Again Aaron takes a hard left to nowhere and totally missing the point then turns it around and makes you out to be the bad guy.

If a person makes a claim be prepared to back it up otherwise be scrutinised.

Aaron is totally blind on them....
They are his "masters" 
Now he indead, forgets to think clearly..

I was soo surprised when i just looked at that forum.
So many replied to my question.

Well, her emy response:

Hi researchers.

Never had the idea seeing people like Peter Lindemann and John Bedini responding on a topic i started.
Thats because i am impressed by the work they have shown to us all.
That question i asked was one who is very relevant and you see all reactions here.

Sure everyone must decide what to do with the knowledge they have.
Make money or not. Share knowledge or not.
And of course the old wishdom of learning people to walk, in stead of pushing their feet.

I made a decision. I trully share everything on my forum. And if i find the holy grale, well, you all will.
Reason? Money? The whole energy market is so big. You never ever can get a grip on it alone. Look on how frustrated Stan Meyer became.....
Now look at the world. Nuclear powerplants exploding in Russia and killing many people and animals. I seen the results of that thru the nothern of europe.

Do you have family? Do you have kids? Do you have loved ones?
Long story short to you all:
You all dont have enough time and money in your life to do the learning stages from scatch. We need a good level to start from.
If one of you have schematics, plans or whatever, just give them to the public! You only loose by doing nothing....
John Bedini and Peter Lindemann are getting older as Peter said.....
We all die. I am 42 and have burried most members of my family......
Grumpy old man you all are. Die and take you techno with you. Is that what your goal is? Or do you live forever......

Change the world!

Steve
Peace to you all in your harts and minds.

For me he have nothing steve.

I was a bit drunk, when i send him that question.
I am sure he doesnt know how it all works.
Read his answer. The great Dr. Lindemann in a daily job? Is this the man from
Borderland, trying to solve the great mistery's?

http://www.borderlands.com/home.htm

I am a bit shocked by his request not to ask more questions. Thats such a signal that he doesnt want to get REAL questions.

As Stan said: you have to aske the right questions. Well, my questions towards Lindemann did obvious hurt him on the right spot.....



Steve

His answer!


Dear Steve,

Of course I know how to make devices that produce more energy than they run on. In fact, I know quite a few ways.

The MYTH of Free Energy is that hobbyists can build one of these things in their spare time! The fact is, that 99.9% of all people could not even make a ball-point pen from scratch parts in their garage, or even something as well understood as an internal combustion engine. These are major engineering projects that take time, energy, money, KNOWLEDGE and SKILL.

I work for a living. That means I don't have much time for these projects anymore. I set out to study Free Energy technology in my early 20's, in 1973. Since then, I have learned much more than I ever imagined was possible about this field, and having stayed alive, I ended up being considered "knowledgeable" by comparison with others.

I have been told, by people who knew Stan Meyer, that my explanation of Stan's system, as presented in the YouTube clip, is essentially correct, but slightly over simplified. But that was the purpose of my lecture at the KeelyNet Conference, to make things understandable to the whole audience.

As for why I haven't published exactly how to do it, Aaron and I were going to work the whole thing out, at the end of the summer in 2008, when the big crash happened. We both ran out of money and had to stop all of our projects. In the meantime, a number of other people have worked it out and there are some Yahoo Groups right now showing people how to run an engine/generator set on water.

Good luck with your research. That is all I am going to say here. No more questions.

Peter

Here my post on the energetic forum where dr. P. Lindemann is.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5212-open-letter-p-lindemann.html#post80524

 
Open letter to P. Lindemann

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dear mr. Lindemann,

I have been reading about your work and i have seen some video's as well.
Like many others, i have been researching free energy. Tesla work. Stan Meyers work, and of course my own.

I was very impressed by your knowledge and by your explanation of many subjects in the field.

Please dont take this wrong, and i think you wont, because you are a smart person:
A smart man once told me. The most stupid question is the qusetion who is never asked....
Do you know a way of getting serious OU?
I just wanna be sure. Thats all.

Secondly.
How about your explanation on Stan Meyers patents?
Are you still behind your theory, which we all seen on youtube?
If so, maybe its time for you to help the many out there and explain how to make a replica. That way, you can help them very much. They all spend much money on that.....

Again, i really appriciate your hugh contribution and i trully hope that some one finds a way to deliver a system which can provide clean free energy to all the people around the whole world.

Steve
ionizationx

If you'll note the number 24 and the word "Solar" on the side so it says, "Solar Water Powered Car."
This photo is likely taken just before or after the attempt to run the fuel cell off a huge solar cell that was to charge up the system in the World Solar Challenge.
I have a Grove City Record newspaper article of Sept. 13, 1990 showing Stan, Steve, and Ulf Dahlstrom (Swedish Electrical Engineer) standing with the buggy at the lab with the solar cell and number 24 attached.
It looks like Ulf sitting in the buggy in the subject photo as the No 8. 1991/92 Water Fuel Cell News Release also shows Ulf, Schneider, and Stan in pictures that look like the same time period.
The GCR article states that the Solar Challenge is to run in November of 1990.
I did have a copy of the Race registration roster at one time with Stan's name on it from the race organizers but cannot find it in my files.
As we all know the race didn't happen because of "technical difficulties." It didn't take long after a few failures like this for the court case to arise by impatient investors.
Mathias Johansen is mentioned in the GCR article as well. He was one of Stan's "expert witnesses" in the court case.

Job 38-22
Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? Or hast thou seen the treasures of the hail?
Job 38-23
Which I have reserved against the time of trouble, against the day of battle and war.

Thanks, JP.
I never really payed any attention to the solar word.
But after all those years, i do......

Steve

Maybe Jim Miller has some idea's on who these man are?


Steve

Check this out:

http://searcypress.com/HHO4/buildingcell4.html

One person ever tried this as far as i have seen.
Here his results:

Pls check this link.
Frankly speaking, I was septic at the beginning when I saw those video.
Playing with jar, I did it a long time ago.
But I tried and I was surprised rgding the amount of gas product, the power from it and the way this electro magnets is working.
I drop the jar, the cups, I prefer to use plexi and 316L plates.
KOH instead of baking soda.

In fact the vacuum idea is important in this.
I made a test.
exactly the same cell use with and without vacuum.
Without vacuum the burning temp. of the gas was 2400'C
With, 8500'C.
It was the maximum of the thermometer.
Why? I don't know.Theoreticly, the vacuum help photons to "get free".More mobile.

Gas quantity was the same, electrolyte, the same(KOH),
I didn't change anything except plugging the hose to a pump to make a vacuum.

http://www.searcypress.com/fuelcell/index.html

Looking further the dealership tapes.
Why are parts taken out, Max?
Why dont we see the complete video's?
Please explain...
Thanks

Steve

Dear members,

After looking at the dealership tape 1, at 9:20, you can clearly see the hugh battery that ran this version of Stan Meyers buggy.
Its plain electrolysis with watervapours.

No magic here.


Cheers!


ps

Max, please remove that utterly stupid text of these videos. What did you want to prove here? Very disturbing.
Appreciated if you can do that.
And also appreciated the posting of these vids.

Cell setup

Electronic unit

Start here your topics on the boilerplate setup from Stan Meyer.

Steve.

I don't think that this system ever used injectors.

What kind of system would he have used then?

Steve