is it this simpel?
Started by unknown · · 12 posts · last reply 21 March 2024
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#1 · date not recorded
How about just applying 300v to the LC and then get like 600V?
Or apply 600v and get 1200v?
Is that the secret?
See Stanleys text in the attachment...attachment_16999 meyer2.jpg
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#2 · date not recorded
https://www.falstad.com/circuit/
5v in and then 12v on the lc?
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#3 · date not recorded
How about this one? Added a resistor for preventing the leaky cell to leak to ground.
Input is 24v and LC is doing almost 30V...
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#4 · date not recorded
or at 50khz
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#5 ·
How about just applying 300v to the LC and then get like 600V?
Or apply 600v and get 1200v?
Is that the secret?
See Stanleys text in the attachment...
In this words I guess he is saying that at resonance the current on the components will cause the voltage to be greater than applied voltage... the voltage will depend on q factor...
He seem to say with that the resonance will allow a higher or different electric field 🤔 -
#6 ·
How about just applying 300v to the LC and then get like 600V?
Or apply 600v and get 1200v?
Is that the secret?
See Stanleys text in the attachment...
In this words I guess he is saying that at resonance the current on the components will cause the voltage to be greater than applied voltage... the voltage will depend on q factor...
He seem to say with that the resonance will allow a higher or different electric field 🤔
a different? What does that mean? -
#7 · date not recorded
When I did some tests feeding the cell with dc current thru a coil i was expecting that when I applied ac on the cell thru a capacitor would have mixed the electric fields in the cell however kind of it just worked in parallel being the cell connection just the point where the two circuits meet.
I was expecting that when I modulated the cell positive the choke would reinforce it and if negative the choke would absorb it.. it did it but not as much as I wanted.
When a coil find a higher resistance it need to develop a higher voltage to keep its current flowing so my idea was perhaps that maybe one coil modulating each other could give rise to a high voltage or field when they interfere with each other -
#8 ·
Please run this simulation:
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#9 ·
Sorry for the delayed reply
I took a look on the simulation, seems like the electron extraction circuit
Having such a small capacitance anything we put in become high voltage..
This month I have got some business to finish and than I will be able to start some testing next week
I will be focusing on getting the water to generate electricity and gas at same time but I will be following those two or 3 major lines I talked about last year
One using the electromagnetic fields to shake water and or induction to make the process and secondly using ultrasound as direct power input seem to me the later is the easiest path to go and also this days the most expensive
The idea is to get a resonant structure that allow the water velocity to be at max where the electrode sit
Interaction of the electromagnetic and the velocity will converge in the electron extraction ckt in my opinion
I just consider it as a full feedback
This year everything will change!
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#10 ·
After some thinking about Stanley’s work
I hardly believe it was relying only on stainless steel
He certainly used a dielectric to be able to get the fields required to liberate the electrons
Charging it positively will get the electrons on the dielectrics and violently reverting it with a very strong negative pulse would make this electrons have energy to go out of the system and burned out in a emission filament -
#11 ·
Eccles use two capacitances.. Stan may have used a couple of cells
When we charge the cell we are adsorpting ions without effectively breaking perhaps the very negative spike force the ions to dissolve back but losing the electrons leaving the negative charge behind
That’s my two cents on it -
#12 · date not recorded
Eccles use two capacitances.. Stan may have used a couple of cells
When we charge the cell we are adsorpting ions without effectively breaking perhaps the very negative spike force the ions to dissolve back but losing the electrons leaving the negative charge behind
That’s my two cents on it
A long long long time ago, somebody told me that he used 2 glas plates, water in between, and alufoil on the outside, not in contact with water.
He had seen some interesting things.........
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