electrojolt

Question: are they the ones that make the cells? and do they sell them?

In my opinion if the answer is yes then this is a publicity stunt to sell their cells.

Stevie, you should be able to prove them right or wrong soon.

so on the video where the buggy is running with the 9 tube setup was already using the vic ?

yes do think the windings were stock. to restrict amps he controlled the current going to the rotor, that lowers the magnetic field induced in the stator controlling the current flow to the cell.

so we know that the tube cell in the 1st videos idled the buggy  and we know that the cell couldn't produce more than one liter of hho even at 60amps.

so how did the engine idled with such low amount of hho?

the only way i can see the engine run on that little amount of hho is that he had to be creating something else.

Quote from: electrojolt on April 04, 2010, 16:32:29 pm

Hey Stevie... I would measure before the power supply.

how about using a small fully charged battery... testing how long it will take to drop to a predetermined voltage. like 10 volts.

Hi Jolt,

Well, i thought the same. Can you do me a favour and run a test on your PS?
Just measure amps and volts on the 110V, and monitor that when you add some load to the ps. It totally doesnt match here.
The PS pulls like 60watts, but on the PS outlet it does like 10watts.
Seems to me like a lot of losses.

Its pretty hard to explain like this. Can we meet on Skype or msn one of coming days?

Steve

Steve,

I tested mine PS and wow you not kidding those things are so inefficient. I have a 12volt 55 watt automotive bulb and to light it up the PS uses 160 watts. this is horrible!!!!! I think it is because they use an analog method with transistors to control the output voltage.

Geoytex,

I just have one thing to say... WOW, now that is a nice PWM circuit.

I'm sorry Dankie, but I have seen some of Goeytex work, and he sure knows what he is doing, don't get me wrong, your circuit is pretty good for someone that never did one before, I do give you credit for that, but it does not compare with Goeytex knowledge.

And Competition is allways good for the consumer.

Jolt

I was going to let it pass, but due to your lack of respect, this is your second strike.

this is not a patent this is an application for a patent  which is generally a breif one page description of what the patent pending will be     you can tell this by looking at the id number it is followed by A1 if it were a patent it would be B1

also application has a statment to federal sponsored research in claim 002    meaning  if it were ever issue it would be free to everyone and only credit for the invention and not ownership would be granted to dingle 

HAHA, that explains the poor document.

Thanks Dudley for clearing that up.

That is not what I noticed..

The thing that called my attention was the part saying that some unsuded hydrogen is re-captured from the exaust...

Not sure if that can happen when using hydrogen on a ICE, but I did see several of Dingle's videos where there was exaust gas boubling into the cell.

Hello all, I wand to bring this to your attention.


Short Story:

Use the exhaust of ICE to make steam, then run the Steam thru hot Oxidizing Agent (Steel wool), as the steam passes thru, the oxygen is striped off the water molecule leaving our hydrogen free.

Check out this patent from 1939

US2295209

Great, Well, I wish you good luck, let us know your results,

I have been working with resonance circuits (RF) and getting some experience in getting coils in resonance.

Now there is only one problem..

I did this last year, and didn't see any good results.

but I didn't have a VIC, my understanding was that using this signal, it would allow the WFC to build up some charge, to high voltage, but that was not the case.

Quote from: electrojolt on May 03, 2009, 04:34:41 am

Quote from: kinesisfilms on May 03, 2009, 02:04:45 am

so if he is using a wave then the reason for gating would make sense...... i am seeing it as a 5 thousand cycles a second meanin one positive pulse and one negative pulse....(a cycle)......super imposing a half hertz gating signal will then create a 2500 UNIPOLAR pulses with a 50% duty cycle since the gating switches off on the negative half of the cycle....he uses the word discrete which means seperate so 2,500 seperate pulses.......interesting.

any comments on this electrojolt?

-----> Well, by using a .5 Hz Gating on a 5Khz pulsing, that means the circuit will be pulsing 5Khz for  1 second, and during that one second, there will be 2500 On pulses.

alright so let me clear this up here.....so there are 5,000 cycles a second but the gating is half a cycle a second (let's say the negative half of the cycle) so there will be then 2,500 cycles in between every half cycle of nothing.

so then if meyers is using pulses as input then there are 2,500 on pulses with 50 percent duty cycle for half of the cycle and the other half of the cycle is off.


sooo:   _________2500 with 50% duty cycle_________2500 50% duty cycle_________2500 50% duty cycle

and the above image would be 3 full cycles.

and that is what is going into the primary.


my drawing is terribly confusing seeing that i simplfied it down to 3 hertz when in reality there are 15,000 cycles going on in that drawing.

Yes, I agree, that is what the Patent says.

so if he is using a wave then the reason for gating would make sense...... i am seeing it as a 5 thousand cycles a second meanin one positive pulse and one negative pulse....(a cycle)......super imposing a half hertz gating signal will then create a 2500 UNIPOLAR pulses with a 50% duty cycle since the gating switches off on the negative half of the cycle....he uses the word discrete which means seperate so 2,500 seperate pulses.......interesting.

any comments on this electrojolt?

-----> Well, by using a .5 Hz Gating on a 5Khz pulsing, that means the circuit will be pulsing 5Khz for  1 second, and during that one second, there will be 2500 On pulses.

Humm, very interesting....

how can we test all this theories??  Any Ideas?

what i mean by on the atomic level is the potentials are present do to the imbalance of charge in the chokes.. that imbalance is a electron imbalance from the displacement of them out of positive choke. you can have volts without that in ac current but its being produced by the oscilation of electrons.. not by displacement.   there somthin not yet understood with the reasons why insulated plates under high voltage doesnt work.. the stainless is not is insulated but it has properties to it that help restrict amp flow (silicon) but allow the vacuum and push electrical forces to be in the water.. maybe?? you really got to think of if it were that simple wouldnt stan of done it that way? in stephen meyers radio session he starts to talk about the stainless and somthing to do with the structure within the stainless and how the process is cold rolled to make the material..i need to listen to it again..
outlawstc

Outlawstc,

Thanks for the atempt to explain your point of view. Maybe one day I will get to understand.

I have a feeling he was trying point us to this:

So he said that when a rectifier (diode) went bad, allowing AC to flow... so that means that the diode shorted out, (it conducts both ways). woun't that cause all the other diodes to fry also? I detect some BS here.

I have been wondering about that my self, and planing to test it out.

here is my plan:

use my existing PF meter and check the power factor of an inductive load like a motor.

then turn off the power for the entire house. and power the motor only.

use a stop watch and check how long it takes for the electric meter to complete one turn.

then correct the power factor and check the electric meter again.

from what I read about PF, it can only be adjusted on inductive loads.

I found this patent: running an ICE using AIR only? what the hell!!!

I just know that the more I know, the Less I know.

Nah Im sure you will not get there , your idea is too crazy and   expensive now that you mention 5MW and platinum and tanks . You cant   pull off this huge build , I know you will choke .

It has taken   me over a year to finish this 3 phase oscillator + 6 channel amplifier ,   and I have spent 1000 hours and 1000$ , I have restarted 2 times the amplifier when seeing the problematic at hand and understanding what was happening . You dont even have the rest of   the $ . I really dont think you can   pull this off .

I wont send you 25$ after all , I have my own mosfets to buy anyways .

You should work on something simpler and cheaper and proven   like Kapanadze , I dont like the idea of competing with the mother frikkin army and relying on a inventor wich is in it for big contracts .

We have to be adult with ourselves , this concept does not respect the concept of KISS and cheap , you couldnt get this kind of power from your street.

I think you should start asking if you are making good decisions and advancing yoiurself in life with these kind of projects .


 

At Last... One thing that I agree with Dankie...