electrojolt

Someone posted this cell design on the Yahoo group.

2 HV tv coils, a while ago you said on wfc.org 50 TV which I read as teravolts  no doubt that would break some water apart.

The added non insulated electrodes test is interesting, how approximately did you place them?
These were added between to the insulated cells, right?

50 TV... no that must have been a typo. I can't even Imagine what that would do, I'm sure I would not be alive to talk about it.

yes, the added non insulated electrodes (just wires) where placed between the other insulated electrodes.

electrojolt,
was the 50 kv  dc pulsed in a step up pulse? when dankie say's "difference" this difference he speaks of is not used in conventional electric that has oscillating difference.. its difference being produced on a atomic level.  caused by electron clustering that stan speaks of..

The 50Kv was DC pulsed, since the electrodes where 100% insulated, I had a 100% HV capacitor, so it would take some time to charge, so there was a step charge.

Now when you talk about atomic level, that is way over my head.... maybe that is why it didn't work. Since I don't understand what Stan means by his jargon.

You mean you had a 50kv voltage *difference* across the water and it did nothing .

That is 100% correct. there was a 50KV voltage field across water (100% insulated electrodes) and nothing.

now there are someguys also testing with insulated electrodes on the overunity forum, but they using Varnish as the insulator, I have also tested this, and yes you can bring your voltage higher, but any bobbles you see are not created by voltage potential, but by current leaks into the water, so it is just electrolysis, and a very inefficient one.

[I have read many times that you tried opposite HV with insulated electrodes.
If you still have this setup, you could try to "extract" electrons or  charge or whatever from between the isolation, maybe a lamp will do, and see what happens.

Alan,

I no longer have that setup toguether. When I tested, I used 2 HV tv coils as my HV source, so I know I was testing with about 50KV.  when I applied the 50KV to 100% insulated plates, I could see the water move up the plates... similar to what you see in the water bridge video on youtube.

I then added non insulated electrodes and applied several pulsing voltages and freq, to see if water would break easier. didn't observe any thing.
I also used some Red Lazers, LEDs... no luck.

But this does not say that it will not work.... just that I could not make it work, maybe I needed to do something else. 

What ever method used, we need to be able to produce Hydrogen efficiently...


I agree, those working on VIC, keep at it, you may uncuver something that many of US missed.

Ok Dankie, Ok.

You doing a great Job inspiring.

Great.

I hope you can show us a video soon.

Well Dankie, I respect your opinion, you may be right. but I have been there and done that and exausted all my abilities...

Maybe one day I will return to  HV Low Amps testing... but for now I will be working on it known and proven to work

High AMPS Low volts.

I agree with Stevie...

After 2 years experimenting, I just don't see how anyone will be able to put any high voltage low amps across water, to cause it to break using voltage potential only....

I hope someone will prove me wrong.

I just want to add this:

Experiment, test, and share your results. Theory is very nice, but reality is a different monster.

Very Very nice!!!

man that is loud... what is making all that noise? is it the cell?

I don't mean to be negative, but from my experiments with insulated electrodes, the water is more like a conductor rather than a dielectric. the material used to insulate the electrodes is the dielectric

Here is another patent on using magnets.

The effect can be observed by having one electrode on the outside of the magnet, and the other electrode inside the magnet.

the magnet I used (from a speaker) does not conduct so I had to use a small ss plate on the outside. I did observe the spiral effect.

I have tried this and yes it is interesting, It does the Magnetron effect similar to that in Microwaves.

Quote from: electrojolt on April 29, 2009, 16:22:39 pm

This is what I did when I tested using 2 TV flyback transformers. It didn't make one single hho bouble.

Jolt,

What did you use as container?

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Steve

I used plastic and water to make the high dielectric container

P = Plastic
W = Water as dielectric
Z = Water to break
M = Metal


MPWPZPWPM

applied 50KV to both Ms

This is what I did when I tested using 2 TV flyback transformers. It didn't make one single hho bouble.

@Electro

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But if most of you blind believers did some real testing you would know this by now.

I'm not even gonna school you dude...keep on thinking you know what you're doin
I will say however, that comment is some ignorant shit!
It amazes me how people think their "replication" failure is somehow everyone's failure...too funny

I'm going to chose to ignore you for calling me ignorant for now.

Quote from: Radiant_1 on June 11, 2009, 11:44:14 am

Very cool...but I bet NOT ONE OF YOU HAD AN EEC!  

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Of course we seen hv and capacitance and resonance

If you have seen this...then the electrical stress MUST be translated across the water gap too (EEC works here)...
And as for the proof you speak of...I myself would also love to see some of your replication of Naudin   (if it's on the forum somewhere I would love for you to show me)

Here you are:
http://www.ionizationx.com/index.php/topic,467.0.html

The EEC Electrojolt and i made was not involved in these tests.
Steve

Yes Steve and I worked on testing Naudin's Setup and we did replicate the same effect. The effect is: you have a semi-insulated cell, that gives you higher resistance, allowing to measure higher voltage across the electrodes, as current leaks from the insulation gaps, you see bubbles (electrolysis) and makes you think: Yehhhh I'm using voltage potential, Yehhhh, but then you measure how much gas it is making and compare that to straight DC and you realize that straight DC is more efficient. or Same power used in DC with more gas output.

But if most of you blind believers did some real testing you would know this by now.