electrojolt

Quote from: Steve on March 22, 2010, 16:16:54 pm

Hi Jolt,

What do you think of that first statement? Adding electrons to slow down the burnrate of the HHO and Air mix?

Steve

I do agree with that statement and I had 1st hand experience with it.

when I tested ionizing hho, I would notice a change in the color of the burning hho when ionization was turned on.

one problem is we still need very large amounts of hho.

the other problem is to get the correct balance without causing a unwanted explosion while ionizing hho.

There is one more issue...

I think that in order for ionization to make an effect, the engine it else would have to be isolated.. as soon as ionized air/hho enters the engine, it would loose or gain electrons and return to its original state.

Hi Jolt,

What do you think of that first statement? Adding electrons to slow down the burnrate of the HHO and Air mix?

Steve

I do agree with that statement and I had 1st hand experience with it.

when I tested ionizing hho, I would notice a change in the color of the burning hho when ionization was turned on.

one problem is we still need very large amounts of hho.

the other problem is to get the correct balance without causing a unwanted explosion while ionizing hho.

Now think futher:

What would happen if you where able to create an airflow with lots of "extra"electrons and make that air buble into the bottum of a waterbucket.
What could happen here?

Because there is always a jumping of hydrogen atoms and oxygen atoms, it would be very possible that the oxygen atom will bond with the free elctrons and we will get pure hydrogen out of the water without electrolysis......

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
My mind is getting crazy now......

Steve

I did try this last year, it was one of my last tests and didn't work.

my set up was:

TV Fly back transformer
Air compressor
sealed glass container with water.

I had plastic tube going to the bottom of the sealed glass container connected to the air compressor. I could regulate the amount of air flow. also the tube inside the container was plugged and I punctured several little holes in the tube so the air bubbles would be smaller.

the container cap had an second plastic hose for the air to exit.

filled the container with water.

then I tested it, HV coil generating over 25kv, feeding air from the compressor, at different air flow rates.

I cold smell the ionized air exiting the exit tube,

so Ionized air was going in and going under water, but it had no effect at all on making any sort of hydrogen.

now that I'm typing this, I though of one thing I should have tried but didn't think of and you may want to try, and that is using hot water. vs just cold.

Here is the latest from gotoluc.

Good Stuff

I have not seen any, but this may give you some Ideas;

http://maxmcarter.com/classexmtr/circuitdescription.html

I know it is not 20m, but I'm sure it can be moded to operate at higher freq.

I say it is not OU.  

Anyone interested in trying understand this patent and maybe replicate it?
 
I started to read it but there are some things I don't understant like it talks about low mass electrons??? I thought electrons are electrons....
 
Jolt
 
 

I think you will get a little better efficiency with the variac. maybe 80%

so far the best power supplies are PWM power supplies. like Laptop PSs they are just over 90% efficient.

oh and yeah we can meet on skype.

Hey Stevie... I would measure before the power supply.

how about using a small fully charged battery... testing how long it will take to drop to a predetermined voltage. like 10 volts.

In did it is but that controller is hard to find.

I did find one source that has them stocked.

http://www.alliedelec.com/search/productdetail.aspx?SKU=2734242

This is really good stuff,

I'm working on modifying a DC-DC step down converter to use synchronized rectification to improve my solar project efficiency.

From personal experiance, I think the brown muck as to do with too much voltage between the electrodes, if the voltage is kept under 3 volts, the brown muck does not form, and it also as to do with the amount of bleach tap water has.

I did some tests using tap water, adding koh running a tube at 3 volts 9 AMPS, and no brown muck is formed.

Quote from: komtek on June 24, 2009, 03:01:01 am

Positive side pulsing.

  Again,  I  don't think the transformer primary cares with side the switch is on.  It only cares when and how often the current is allowed to flow.   
 
Goey

I agree with Goey

A coil generates the exact same signal regarless if pulsed using negative or positive switching. Now using both can be an option for gating... but since we can do that using one single switching circuit, I don't see the need for it.

by the way, the PCB for the satble gated 3 channel PWM does have a section to add the positive switching by adding a power PNP or P-Channel FET.

Hey Fiditti, here is the complete circuit:


http://eurobier.com/wasserauto/Dingle.htm

and Translated:

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://eurobier.com/wasserauto/Dingle.htm


I already built the choke, and so far the choke works like a bifiliar coil. I still have to get the Ignition coil.

According to DanielDingel.com there is no patent :  http://danieldingel.com/node/15

But this page is explaining some of the patent : http://www.jcmiras.net/jcm/item/75/

Dingle mentioned vacuum : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMXz6XEXKns&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fdanieldingel%2Ecom%2Fwatercar&feature=player_embedded

 

Well, something is not right because as you can see here it is, his patent

Very poor patent indid.

Now this brings up another point:

You don't need much to get a patent approved.

Look what I found!!!

It does not say much, but there is one thing that called my attention.

see if you find it.

didn't he have a video showing the buggy running on that 9 tube cell ?

I actually think they measured the current used right at the cell right at the cell.

so if he in did ran the dune buggy with only 0.5  lpm  of hho, then he must have been doing something else.

this something else is what we need to find out.

some people think we can create some new gas using oxygen and nitrogen . oxygen is pretty easy to manipulate. now nitrogen is a different beast. with its triple bond it is very hard to break. but recent discoveries show that hafnium works as a catalyst to break the nitrogen molecule. once broken then it can easy bond to other molecules.

i contacted this company to see if i could order some.  but they don,t sell to individuals.

Dynodon is correct.

I did that same test, one liter cavity 7 PSI a minute = to about 0.5 LPM.
also you can re-view Stan's Videos showing the tube cell with a PSI meter, you can see the rate as the needle moves up, it does match 7 PSI a minute. His gauge is a PSI gauge not BAR.

Bottom line: Stan lied.