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Stan’s Legacy

Latest Success of a Vehicle Running 100% on Water

Started by unknown · · 80 posts · last reply 28 October 2010

  1. yaro

    #26 · date not recorded

    The guy said in the video that the cell is pulling 70 amps and 10 volts using pure water and no electrolyte. Can sombody explain to me how the PWM can offer 70 amps without the cell asking for it? How is the cell able to pull 70 amps without a ton of KOH?

    Bob Boyce uses 1/3 by volume of KOH.

  2. Steve

    #27 · date not recorded

    Its all scam.

    700 watts on tubes with a 10v on all tubes in parallel do max 5 litres.....The parallel tubes can be compared with parallel resistors. The more you have, the lower the resistance, the more amps it pull....

    steve

  3. yaro

    #28 · date not recorded

    Its all scam.

    700 watts on tubes with a 10v on all tubes in parallel do max 5 litres.....The parallel tubes can be compared with parallel resistors. The more you have, the lower the resistance, the more amps it pull....

    steve

    Yes, but they have 9-10 tubes, that can only pull about 4 to 6 amps in tap water.

  4. komtek

    #29 · date not recorded

    It appears the current and voltage have changed many times in their write-ups and video's.
    Also they state they use 10% ferrous oxide in the base epoxy to aid the capacitance?
     
    Still there is 55 PSI of pressure and no explaination for this.
    The pressure is not coming from those tubes its coming from somewhere else. (my opinion).

  5. Steve

    #30 · date not recorded

    Its all scam.

    700 watts on tubes with a 10v on all tubes in parallel do max 5 litres.....The parallel tubes can be compared with parallel resistors. The more you have, the lower the resistance, the more amps it pull....

    steve

    Yes, but they have 9-10 tubes, that can only pull about 4 to 6 amps in tap water.

    You might be right in that.
    My max with tabwater was with 10 tubes a 30 amps on 20V....
    Maybe their tapwater is very dirty and has more iron in it...?
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

  6. yaro

    #31 · date not recorded



     
    You might be right in that.
    My max with tabwater was with 10 tubes a 30 amps on 20V....
    Maybe their tapwater is very dirty and has more iron in it...?


    Steve,
    If you got 30 amps you probably had a short circuit. When the white coating thickens the amp draw diminishes.

  7. sebosfato

    #32 · date not recorded

    well i already told you all that i got up to 20 amps at 1,44 volts using only one tube and naoh... 

  8. yaro

    #33 · date not recorded

    well i already told you all that i got up to 20 amps at 1,44 volts using only one tube and naoh...

    Seb,

    That is exactly what I mean. You must use electrolyte to breakdown the resistance and increase the current demand. You can apply any voltage but current has to be demanded by the load. Welding requires huge current demand because it is a short circuit.

  9. sebosfato

    #34 ·

    I had this amperage at real resonance using inductor and resonant capacitor in parallel having the tube in the middle actually were a couple of tubes and a couple of diodes in antiparallel configuration. Probably if i have used very high area on the electrodes would be possible to not use the naoh...


    My girlfriend got killed in a strange car accident this weekend in italy. i'm really really sad with this.


    Reagards   

  10. yaro

    #35 · date not recorded

    Seb,
    My condolences to you.

  11. haroldcr

    #36 · date not recorded


     Sebosfato, My condolences, also.

  12. Steve

    #37 · date not recorded

    My condolecense, Fabio.

  13. sebosfato

    #38 · date not recorded

    Still very hard to believe what happened. Thanks guys, don't know what to say. 




    I would like to share this with you:


    Yan R. Kucherov
    http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=e_MoAAAAEBAJ


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  14. yaro

    #39 · date not recorded

    Here  is a response to my question to them on Ebay: "it depends on how many plates you use. Some cells have 20 or 30 plates and will draw 50A or more."[/size]
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  15. mina

    #40 ·

    Its all scam.

    700 watts on tubes with a 10v on all tubes in parallel do max 5 litres.....The parallel tubes can be compared with parallel resistors. The more you have, the lower the resistance, the more amps it pull....

    steve

    @Steve:
    I can understand why you would say this, Steve.  There have been thousands upon thousands of similar scams pulled on unsuspecting everyday people and experimenters alike in the past.  They all sound too good to be true.
     
    Even Stanley Meyer’s dune buggy seemed like a scam and was treated as one by the mainstream public throughout the world.  By the time many of us realized that Meyer was not a scammer, it was too late and the man was dead.  It’s very unfortunate that he died before we could learn in greater detail exactly what he had done.  I would even go so far as to call it a tragedy.  His technology could have saved so many lives that were wasted in the name of war over oil fields.  We may not have even had the BP disaster in the Gulf of Mexico if Stan had succeeded in making it to market with his devices. 

    It’s easy for people to develop thick skin when it comes to new energy technology in light of past letdowns.  In the realm of psychology, this is known as “Pike Syndrome”.

    Here is a video which will be able to visually explain just what this syndrome is for those who have never heard of it before:


    I am requesting more information regarding this Future Energy Concepts technology in order to see if they will allow me to replicate their setup.  They claim in their video that the prototype version you see demonstrated in their video is going to be “shareware” (or freely copied sort of the way Pantone gives away a free GEET system plans so long as you don’t make more than one) and they are allowing the public to see their system in person on the 21st which is tomorrow. 

    I refuse to call their technology a scam until they refuse my request for exact schematics and component details. 

    Regards,
    mina

  16. sebosfato

    #41 ·

    If i was anywhere in U.S. I would certainly be there personally tomorrow ;)
    Any of you could go check this? Who here live closer to them?




    ???




    Regards

  17. Steve

    #42 ·

    Its all scam.

    700 watts on tubes with a 10v on all tubes in parallel do max 5 litres.....The parallel tubes can be compared with parallel resistors. The more you have, the lower the resistance, the more amps it pull....

    steve

    @Steve:
    I can understand why you would say this, Steve.  There have been thousands upon thousands of similar scams pulled on unsuspecting everyday people and experimenters alike in the past.  They all sound too good to be true.
     
    Even Stanley Meyer’s dune buggy seemed like a scam and was treated as one by the mainstream public throughout the world.  By the time many of us realized that Meyer was not a scammer, it was too late and the man was dead.  It’s very unfortunate that he died before we could learn in greater detail exactly what he had done.  I would even go so far as to call it a tragedy.  His technology could have saved so many lives that were wasted in the name of war over oil fields.  We may not have even had the BP disaster in the Gulf of Mexico if Stan had succeeded in making it to market with his devices. 

    It’s easy for people to develop thick skin when it comes to new energy technology in light of past letdowns.  In the realm of psychology, this is known as “Pike Syndrome”.

    Here is a video which will be able to visually explain just what this syndrome is for those who have never heard of it before:


    I am requesting more information regarding this Future Energy Concepts technology in order to see if they will allow me to replicate their setup.  They claim in their video that the prototype version you see demonstrated in their video is going to be “shareware” (or freely copied sort of the way Pantone gives away a free GEET system plans so long as you don’t make more than one) and they are allowing the public to see their system in person on the 21st which is tomorrow. 

    I refuse to call their technology a scam until they refuse my request for exact schematics and component details. 

    Regards,
    mina

    Its strange that they show a tubesetup on that truck and what i see is a VERY slow production, if you look at the time it took to build up some pressure in the cell.
     
    Now you asked them a price and deliverytime and they come up with PLATES?
     
    I have dismanteld with Electrojolt (Claudio) many scammers in this field, last years, Mina.
    Maybe it makes me more sceptical then others.
    However, i do believe in this technology more then most of the people on this earth....
    I have spent thousends of euro's / dollars sofar.
    Made many engines running already.
    I know what it takes to do such a thing.
    Running that BIG engine on 2 litres of HHO cannot be done.
    What i ll will try, maybe even today, is to hook up my cell to my injectionsystem of my renault clio 1.4ltr 4 cylinder engine.
    I will even hook up my ionizer to the airintake, as i have done on my motorbike.
    Then i wil lbuild up pressure.....and start the car.....
     
    Believe me, it will not work.
     
     
    Steve
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

  18. Alan

    #43 · date not recorded

    Hello again.  :)
    I think they put gasoline in the WFC.

  19. haithar

    #44 · date not recorded

    taking a look at the thing again, hidden in the obvious. could very well be.
    they heat it with their electrical heater aka pwm and the gasoline fumes are injected.

  20. komtek

    #45 · date not recorded

    If gasoline fumes were injected it would still get great mileage per hour and this would maybe explain the pressure of 20-60psi.
    The unit sitting there started, really showed 5psi. But when motor started the pressure rose slowly to 60psi.
    Also he mentioned HC maybe in the write up, whats he talking about? maybe Hydrogen Chloride???
     
    Then why hide the information?
    These guys have been up to this before.
     
    I emailed a real easy question and still have no answer, but then again they may have stirred too much email up.
     
    We'll see if if he keeps it shareware or open source.
     
     

  21. mina

    #46 · date not recorded

    If gasoline fumes were injected it would still get great mileage per hour and this would maybe explain the pressure of 20-60psi.
    The unit sitting there started, really showed 5psi. But when motor started the pressure rose slowly to 60psi.
    Also he mentioned HC maybe in the write up, whats he talking about? maybe Hydrogen Chloride???
     
    Then why hide the information?
    These guys have been up to this before.
     
    I emailed a real easy question and still have no answer, but then again they may have stirred too much email up.
     
    We'll see if if he keeps it shareware or open source.

    In their earlier setup, they prepared to introduce gasoline into the fuel rail (that’s what they are calling HC or hydrocarbon) whenever they were experiencing serious power shortfalls while climbing hills and running in full throttle.  They no longer have a problem climbing hills or running in full throttle.  They still leave the fuel line tee’d into the fuel rail but only for emergency purposes in order to have a parachute (open a valve that lets them get back home) to prevent them from getting stranded.
     
    If they were putting gasoline in the cell itself, they would NOT need the tee with an angle cock as a backup.  You don’t need a backup gasoline valve for an engine that is already running on gasoline.
     
    Regards,
    mina

  22. Dankie

    #47 ·

    I think these are just ppl trying to pull off a scam , they might get 200$ from a gullible person for info but their scam will be short lived .

    American innovation 2010 style ...

  23. mina

    #48 ·

    Future Energy Concepts is moving forward to produce a commercial product.  At the same time, they are giving away the plans for free to their prototype that powered the V-8 engine.  The plans can be found at:
    first onehttp://groups.futureenergyconceptsinc.com/documentation/node/46
      second onehttp://groups.futureenergyconceptsinc.com/documentation/node/9 
    The following video is an example in real time (proof of concept) of how this system performs:
    third one
       
    The above video was released by the same company that powered the 2004 Dodge eight cylinder pickup truck.

  24. Steve

    #49 · date not recorded

    Future Energy Concepts is moving forward to produce a commercial product.  At the same time, they are giving away the plans for free to their prototype that powered the V-8 engine.  The plans can be found at:
    first onehttp://groups.futureenergyconceptsinc.com/documentation/node/46
      second onehttp://groups.futureenergyconceptsinc.com/documentation/node/9 
    The following video is an example in real time (proof of concept) of how this system performs:
    third one
       
    The above video was released by the same company that powered the 2004 Dodge eight cylinder pickup truck.

    I was told by people who has visit them that this car ran as a hybride. Meaning petrol and HHO.
    So, no 100% running on HHO. Lots of * . They wanna atrack investors. I heard it from a potential investor.

    As far as tuning tubes to the same frequency, i can inform you that no results at all has reached my ears so far.
    If anybody has positive results on the frequency tuning, then please speak out loud!

    Steve


  25. Alan

    #50 · date not recorded

    http://www.rtl.hr/video-hrvat-izmislio-auto-na-vodu-clanak-22543
    2400 km per liter water
    Langiuage is croatian and translatable by google translate