mina

Sad news indeed.  We were only facebook friends, but I did study his work quite some time ago.  I think it was the Geet system or something like that.  He will surely be missed.

mina

 I believe the actual pioneer was Dr. Andrija Puharich.  It was Dr. Puharich who was granted U.S. patent # 4,394,230 for a "Method and Apparatus for Splitting Water Molecules."  His patented method of "splitting water" surpassed all previous norms as he was able to accomplish this (splitting water) with a net energy gain.  In the 1970's, it was said that Dr. Puharich had an internal  combustion engine running on his remarkable process long before he was even granted patents in the early 1980's.   

It was said of Dr. Puharich that he was warned by the powerful Rockefeller family (a family deeply entrenched in the oil industry) to end his water as fuel research.   

It is my belief that Stanley Meyer came along and studied Dr. Puharich's technology and not only was able to duplicate it, but he also went on to perfect it beyond that of his protege.  Stan had a certain knack for taking complex machines completely apart and reconstructing them without so much as a handbook.  He also possessed professional skills in electronics as well.

@radiola18:
On merely reading their background information on their own website, it is evident to me that they had a more than adequate ability to concoct a poison and one that would be difficult to detect post mortem.  They have quite the medical biology training to make them capable.  Notice that things did not start happening for them until some time AFTER the year Stan Meyer was murdered.  Perhaps they earned a little seed money for their new enterprise from a past job they were paid for.  If the Arabs were willing to pay Meyer over $1 billion dollars cash to sit on his technology and shelve it, then can you imagine how much they would pay to have him wacked?  I'm sure it was less than the $1 billion dollars they offered Stan so they really eliminated their problem at quite a bargain. 

Keep in mind that these guys did NOT even ask about Stan when confronted by Stan's twin brother Steven (because they knew he was dead) nor did they offer any condolences.  Stan's dying declaration was "They poisoned me!".  That's one hell of a clue.


mina   

@Steve:
I've been told from one source (someone who was very close to Stan) that Stan always disabled his tubular array cell after every demonstration.  He DID remove a key component which rendered the cell inoperable until it was reattached.  I have been asking myself this same question you have posted in this new thread for a while now.
 
Everything in plain sight while he is demonstrating the unit (or the unit via the dune buggy) has been pretty well photographed and recorded on video so it would not make sense to remove anything clearly visible.  I was speculating that whatever Meyer removed was probably something housed in an enclosure such as electrical control box/enclosure. 
 
Just a thought,
mina

The tubing is known as Multi Lumen Tubing and can be custom made (extruded)
 
 The diameter we need to shoot for is .015" maximum per passage
 
 here is a link                 http://www.dukeextrusion.com/capabilities.html
 
 stan used this multipassage tubing to deliver the Hydroxy gases safely throughout the vehicle
 
 modern technology can produce a more capable delivery tube with better flow than his original as shown in the photo attached
 
 remember the compression fitting ferrule must squeeze down on the tubing and thats why his tubing was configured the way it was
 
 there should be a way maybe multiple tubings in parallel to get more gases to the desired location
 post your drawings or ideas here and any price quotes or contact info for other companies !

@Ali:

Very good idea!  There is a way to run these supply lines in parallel.  You connect the main supply line with multiple (Multi Lumen Tubing) quenching tubes via a manifold.   Then you can run as many lines as necessary until you achieve desired flow/volume. 

Regards,
mina
 

Dynodon,
 
Do you know how long the 0.75" outer tubes are exactly (or at least one of them) and how long the 0.5" inner tubes are exactly (or at least one of them)?
 
mina

I was just informed that the rod holding the cell in the video of Freddy's test was also connected to a steel chair and was explained as funneling energy from the outside environment into the cell.
Also that another chemical was being used as a catalyst.
 
These informations and descriptions will become available in an upcoming PDF file from Freddy.
Either way I look at it it is apparent that there is some interesting reactions happening with Freddy's cell.
It appears that the full information disclosure will be available when the PDF is published.
This PDF will have a cost of $100 when its available.
 
I don't think it wise to perform a full replication build just yet.
Although testing of a single tube cell sounds interesting to see what result may be acheived.
 
What other catalyst in the bucket can produce his result?

@Komtek:
Thanks for the additional information.  What I was wondering now is when Freddy is going allow the secret/private replicators to publish their independent results and have their measurements/results verified?
 
I have a great deal of respect for Freddy and his accomplices.  They are about to change the world in a major way and sometimes it's hard to imagine freedom from the parasitic (not to mention unscrupulous, greedy and manipulating monopolizers) energy vendors at long last becoming a reality.

Yes you would think that annealing may be a plus.
 
I was told that it was not neccessary.
It is an added expense.

I think Freddy himself says it’s necessary in the following video at 7:50:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax6U0xXMwBk&feature=mfu_in_order&playnext=1&videos=fn6MAv4zYmk

Besides setting the magnetic fields, the tubes need to be annealed to soften them.  This is supposed to enhance their performance.

I tried to tell you guys before that this is the real deal but I was butchered.  I have been studying this HHO approach ever since which is why I had to temporarily abandon my own project here.  It’s the bird in the hand reasoning/logic.
 
I am lacking certain details to complete my prototype “6” series replication which is why I can not offer or announce a successful replication at this time.
 
“...and the truth shall set you free.”

  second onehttp://groups.futureenergyconceptsinc.com/documentation/node/9     

Its all scam.

700 watts on tubes with a 10v on all tubes in parallel do max 5 litres.....The parallel tubes can be compared with parallel resistors. The more you have, the lower the resistance, the more amps it pull....

steve

@Steve:
I can understand why you would say this, Steve.  There have been thousands upon thousands of similar scams pulled on unsuspecting everyday people and experimenters alike in the past.  They all sound too good to be true.
 
Even Stanley Meyer’s dune buggy seemed like a scam and was treated as one by the mainstream public throughout the world.  By the time many of us realized that Meyer was not a scammer, it was too late and the man was dead.  It’s very unfortunate that he died before we could learn in greater detail exactly what he had done.  I would even go so far as to call it a tragedy.  His technology could have saved so many lives that were wasted in the name of war over oil fields.  We may not have even had the BP disaster in the Gulf of Mexico if Stan had succeeded in making it to market with his devices. 

It’s easy for people to develop thick skin when it comes to new energy technology in light of past letdowns.  In the realm of psychology, this is known as “Pike Syndrome”.

Here is a video which will be able to visually explain just what this syndrome is for those who have never heard of it before:


I am requesting more information regarding this Future Energy Concepts technology in order to see if they will allow me to replicate their setup.  They claim in their video that the prototype version you see demonstrated in their video is going to be “shareware” (or freely copied sort of the way Pantone gives away a free GEET system plans so long as you don’t make more than one) and they are allowing the public to see their system in person on the 21st which is tomorrow. 

I refuse to call their technology a scam until they refuse my request for exact schematics and component details. 

Regards,
mina

The Meyer Demo cell would run any car, If mixed with gasoline fumes. I was running my dune buggy on Gasoline fumes and My plate cell. I wasn't interested in the Mix So I never really spoke much on it., However I have posted this info here over a year ago.

I assume this is what the video is about, If so that's very old news.

The vehicle they made the HHO only test drive in has a fuel injected engine.  The fuel line was removed and replaced with a separate HHO supply line to the fuel rail.  If gasoline fumes can remain in an engine’s fuel rail for over 3000 miles enough to fully power an eight cylinder truck engine, I want to buy that fuel rail.
 
Here's the video again:

Fasten your seatbelts people!!!!!!  OMG!!!  To everybody who attacked these inventors in Arizona…you might want to take a second look.  They are claiming around 365 miles per gallon on WATER!!!  You could drive across the United States without having to stop for fuel.  You could fill up your fuel tank right in your own front yard.  Here is the new video that was hacked by hackers (I just can’t figure out who would try to stop this?  The oil companies have to love water, right?) trying to keep a lid on this breakthrough but it has been uploaded again for the world to see:
 

 
Now we will finally be able to replace or do away with all the coal generating stations, nuclear power plants, household oil fueled heaters, AND DEEP SEA OIL DRILLING PLATFORMS!  What will the Arabs sell us now?  We already have lots of sand.  Finally, no more wars over oil disguised as “the removal of weapons of mass destruction”.  Besides, the Bush’s can always sell their oil to McCain.
 
They just came back from a 3000 mile plus test drive with their system!  It is very similar to Meyer's Demo Cell.  Go figure

The PES site documentation is located here:

http://pesn.com/2010/08/17/9501689_QA_Frederick_Wells_VP_Future_Energy_Concepts_Inc/

It looks like the “Meyer Demo Cell” is right on target

"Please come prove us wrong! New video being shot today should help ease your fears young man. Don't get me wrong: it took 6 months and thousands of dollars to get to this point. Thanks to Stan Myers's video on tube tuning and comments from a fellow youtuber about the lower? voltage happiness factoid, and a few tweaks we found on our own, we produce over 30.8 LPM @ 55amps with the new prototype @ 3.02 volts. So please come to Az for a test drive"----
DoomTracker   FutureEnergyConcepts

So who wants to go to Arizona?  If you're going to call the man a complete liar, at least take him up on his in person challange to prove him wrong.  You have a trip to Arizona to lose, but you save the world if it's true.  Time to put up or shut up.  His offer is on the table.  I don't see anyone from this site offering anything like this, ever.  The talking part is already through...

The vehicle is a 2004 Dodge pickup truck with an 8 cylinder engine.  In the first video below, the owner is driving around in public on the streets of Arizona.  He has no problems until he reaches a steep grade or he gives the engine full throttle for too long. 

He uses an electrolyte and the additional 2 videos give us more details on his exact setup.  A phone number is also provided in one of the videos along with an email address.  The company's name is Future Energy Concepts Inc.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw3FnAgG_3I&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eYLqEt7qfc&feature=channel

Hello guys


I think is possible to absorb this energy using a coil, but we need to know where the fields are going (direction)... We should also want to know why there are this fields and what create them to understand why is the frequency so low.


Well I think that the coil also must be Very big..


I think tesla builded the winderclift for extracting energy from the electrostatic field of the earth.


He might have created a resonant tank able to support millions of volts and huge amperage and it would just resonate by itself charging from the sky...


Than he created another tank tuned to receive the electro magnetic energy irradiated from his giant coil.


Do you remember thomas edison discovering the atmosphere electricity with his kite?

Hello Sebosfato,
 
It was not Edison who discovered electricity with a kite.  It was Benjamin Franklin.
 
Regards,
mina

If gasoline fumes were injected it would still get great mileage per hour and this would maybe explain the pressure of 20-60psi.
The unit sitting there started, really showed 5psi. But when motor started the pressure rose slowly to 60psi.
Also he mentioned HC maybe in the write up, whats he talking about? maybe Hydrogen Chloride???
 
Then why hide the information?
These guys have been up to this before.
 
I emailed a real easy question and still have no answer, but then again they may have stirred too much email up.
 
We'll see if if he keeps it shareware or open source.

In their earlier setup, they prepared to introduce gasoline into the fuel rail (that’s what they are calling HC or hydrocarbon) whenever they were experiencing serious power shortfalls while climbing hills and running in full throttle.  They no longer have a problem climbing hills or running in full throttle.  They still leave the fuel line tee’d into the fuel rail but only for emergency purposes in order to have a parachute (open a valve that lets them get back home) to prevent them from getting stranded.
 
If they were putting gasoline in the cell itself, they would NOT need the tee with an angle cock as a backup.  You don’t need a backup gasoline valve for an engine that is already running on gasoline.
 
Regards,
mina

Yes, put me down for one Don.  I'll pay extra for the files on USB memory stick or "flash drive".  Let me know the total.  You deserve to recover money you spent documenting Stan's things in such a well and detailed way.  I know I won't be disappointed.
 
Thanks,
mina

 He was definitely not a con artist.  His involvement with NASA and the U.S. military dispels this notion.  You may be able to fool a building full of amateurs but even Stanley knew that nobody in their right mind would try to defraud the government or one of their expert headed agencies.  And by the same token, NASA would not have given him a contract if they even remotely suspected he was a fraud. 
 
Now is there any proof of such involvement between Meyer and the government?  Surprisingly, yes there is.  If you review the documentary film “It Runs on Water” in which Meyer was chronicled, Paul Czysz (former Professor of Aeronautics at Saint Louise University) makes a bold statement that often is overlooked by the viewing audience.  And by the way, Paul Czysz is also a former top NASA scientist so his credibility as well as his credentials are impeccable.  Paul Czysz clearly stated to the producers of this documentary (in which I will quote the narrator) that “It’s only in a closed (door) meeting they (NASA and Stanley Meyer) confirmed such an agreement.” 
 
Meyer himself clearly states in the documentary that “It is involved with deep space exploration (via NASA) and it’s also being developed quite highly in the military.” – Stanley Meyer
 
But Meyer making a statement such as the one I’ve just mentioned does not hold much weight as it would be in his best interest to lie in order to give his technology additional credence.
 
However, then Paul Czysz himself also clearly states in the documentary on camera “I understand from the people I have talked with that they have worked with Stan and tried to understand what he has done and given him a contract.  I also understand with the bureaucracy in Washington and the congressional oversight as to why they would never admit it.  Anyone who does that will be suspect, will be challenged, will be considered a threat.” – Paul Czysz
 
Paul would know as NASA is his old stomping ground and old colleagues from NASA are still close friends of his.  So no, I believe he was not a fraud and the evidence of his involvement with the U.S. federal government speaks for itself.
 
Regards,
mina