General discussion...... being banned
Started by unknown · · 26 posts · last reply 17 January 2016
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Hello
Ive been over to open source energy and it looks like Ive been shut out .
a few days ago I had to renew my password ...ok then did that , today I go there and now my log on is rejected so I figure re register
.......that doesnt happen either , also there is no way of contacting the engine room of that forum ....... or is just me?
so .... the only reason I log on is because the forum has hidden threads which in itself is pointless ....... and NOT "OPEN" .
The last thread I posted on was by Ron some one = IDK! , the tech brief thread .
the last post , I questioned the dielectric constant of water , the FACT that it has no units <<<<< this seems to really rub people the wrong way
^^^ I can only assume that this has upset a / the moderator or the owner of the site
so Id just like to say ....
THE DIELECTRIC CONSTANT HAS NO UNITS
^ this fact will not change for anyone no matter how upset you are capable of getting
The site owners should take some time to try and define what dielectric constant means and what units are used IF ANY
there is supposed to be some electronics whiz on that site , surely they know fundamentals and if they do they surely havent spoken up or are afraid to question Ron or point out the flaws
good day people
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where did my post go
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yes its by itself a dimensionless unity! whats the point?
its relative permeability... how much it is greater than vacuum so is just a factor number but of course this value has some implications...
but must be used aways multiplied by Eo giving Er*Eo= absolute permeability... -
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Forums where members are banned arbitrarily and capriciously, often in secret, have diminished value as a result. What is the value of that forum with free energy implied in it's name, other than some place to exchange ideas? Has any over unity system been shown there, for others to replicate? If OU were claimed, WOULD anyone try to replicate it? I've come to the conclusion that the key to energy independence, for a specific individual, isn't posting to obscure forums. -
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Being that I have been banned from more forums than most this sounds funny to me as I have been banned from this site, the energetic site, Max's site, the RWG site, and the all about circuits site. The primary reason is I will speak truth to power as I place no man on a unquestionable pedestal. Just ask some of the members here as I prefer to tell them the truth rather than give them a pat on the back when they ask for an honest opinion.
I did my best with people in showing them what I was learning in real time but what I didn't count on was people getting jealous of me as after all I was sharing what I know openly. But as time passed all of the openness began to breakdown as too many were in it for competition running around arguing all the time about someone calling them out on the false claims they tend to make and the never giving credit where credit was due. It got so bad that one day I just left and started working on my own.
For me the words "Open Source" has a negative continent to it as it is associated with a lot of bad experiences during my time in open source. Somewhere along the way I lost hope in Open Source as it became mostly about competition and seem to be run by the Naysayers and blind leaders.
Ushering in the science of freedom is my new mission now so I must be patient and let time run it's coarse. -
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I have been banned from more forums than most this sounds funny to me as I have been banned from this site, the energetic site, Max's site, the RWG site, and the all about circuits site.
The difference being that when YOU get banned it's a defensive measure to stop your determination to disrupt the other members' attempts to discuss something. Nothing unrighteous about this kind of banning. -
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I have been banned from more forums than most this sounds funny to me as I have been banned from this site, the energetic site, Max's site, the RWG site, and the all about circuits site.
The difference being that when YOU get banned it's a defensive measure to stop your determination to disrupt the other members' attempts to discuss something. Nothing unrighteous about this kind of banning.
No, it's all out of jealousy as I can see it clearly now. I've been constantly getting high voltage to the load and no one seems to be able to do so other than myself and this causes problems. Sometimes I will read peoples results and can see they are still having problems getting high voltages to the load today. It's gotten so bad that they don't even want to talk about the subject anymore as 8.8kv seems way out of their reach at this moment in time and they have problem with me in that I am able to do so for they are only getting a little over 1kv most of the time to the load.
Others get jealous on the things that I can build like you in that you aren't able to build much of anything that remotely even resembles Meyer's technology. I got banned from this site for wanting to talk about ionization and even you wanted me banned for consistently saying this technology is about ionization. After it was proved you went mute on me but you are not alone as most that I see can't build or do the things I have shown everyone that I can do and this is a problem for them. It's been this way my whole life as I always seem to perform a task better than the next guy and for doing so they in turn become jealous of my abilities. I've been told to "slow my roll" as I was making everyone look bad by always solving problems no one else could solve which is my primary strength and is why I was able to actually figure out just how this technology truly works. And again just me saying that upsets people as they wish that something bad would happen to me to make me go away as after all isn't that what KWS sort-of said in a round about way in saying I don't deserve this technology and it shouldn't be me who figures it out?
Just look at all the comments on the 2013 Global BEM video and you can see a clear pattern of jealousy, envy, and disdain. The only well wishes I got for getting over 4kv to the load came from private parties for the most part. Then I talk about getting between 9.3-4kv to the load and again all I get is jealousy, envy, and disdain for my improved results of getting even higher voltages to the load. Support from any of the forums towards TGS for attempting to put out Meyer's technology to the market? None that I can see other than some private parties and a few friends. I may be on this site but I am still banned by it's members. People don't seem to like the truth much these days as the lie seems to be much more to their liking. -
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I got banned from this site for wanting to talk about ionization
You didn't get "banned", only suspended for a month - you're still here. And it was for posting about religion, not ionization.
Quoteand even you wanted me banned for consistently saying this technology is about ionization.
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I got banned from this site for wanting to talk about ionization
You didn't get "banned", only suspended for a month - you're still here. And it was for posting about religion, not ionization.
Quoteand even you wanted me banned for consistently saying this technology is about ionization.
You are fabricating, pure and simple. END OF DISCUSSION.
Steve do you care to enlighten this guy? as after all it was you who banned me back in 2008 for wanting to talk about the Gas Processor or was it something else?
(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y320/h2opower/Picture888.jpg)
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Hello
Ive been over to open source energy and it looks like Ive been shut out .
a few days ago I had to renew my password ...ok then did that , today I go there and now my log on is rejected so I figure re register
.......that doesnt happen either , also there is no way of contacting the engine room of that forum ....... or is just me?
so .... the only reason I log on is because the forum has hidden threads which in itself is pointless ....... and NOT "OPEN" .
The last thread I posted on was by Ron some one = IDK! , the tech brief thread .
the last post , I questioned the dielectric constant of water , the FACT that it has no units <<<<< this seems to really rub people the wrong way
^^^ I can only assume that this has upset a / the moderator or the owner of the site
so Id just like to say ....
THE DIELECTRIC CONSTANT HAS NO UNITS
^ this fact will not change for anyone no matter how upset you are capable of getting
The site owners should take some time to try and define what dielectric constant means and what units are used IF ANY
there is supposed to be some electronics whiz on that site , surely they know fundamentals and if they do they surely havent spoken up or are afraid to question Ron or point out the flaws
good day people
Here is Something I found on the dielectric constant of water
"Electric fields lower the dielectric constant of the water, due to the resultant partial or complete destruction of the hydrogen-bonded network."
(reference)
I. Danielewicz-Ferchmin and A. R. Ferchmin, Water at ions, biomolecules and charged surfaces, Phys. Chem. Liquids 42 (2004) 1-36. -
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good stuff , and still there are no units
the tech brief thread on open source energy forum has the D constant mingled in an assortment of calculations , it is dimensionless.
it can not be added , multiplied , subtracted or divided by other units of measurement
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good stuff , and still there are no units
the tech brief thread on open source energy forum has the D constant mingled in an assortment of calculations , it is dimensionless.
it can not be added , multiplied , subtracted or divided by other units of measurement
Perhaps this will help you out some: -
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Thats kind of weird argument about units. ...is it that you want a variable for D to calculate? -
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Ed only gets banned from the forums because he's the biggest 'know it all' out there. His head is so big he thinks he's getting banned because he knows it all.
Ed, we bow to you....and humbly await your Meyer wisdom if you are so loving as to share it with us!
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there is no name for the unit of a dielectric constant because there is no UNIT , its a ratio
>>> sebosfato has already pointed it out , post #3 , there is no argument <<<
why is it included in calculations in the tech brief thread on open source forum ?
a dimensionless figure does not fit in the formulas they are using
one of the posts on that thread , he said "find one that fits" (formula) , if thats the case then ALOT of the formulas need a Refit !
I dont even know who Ron is , or Russell , its their site
I lost access to the forum , I can only assume some one got upset that the question of D constant was raised
I saw some one else questioned D constant also .... wonder if they also got shut out
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It's been this way my whole life as I always seem to perform a task better than the next guy. and for doing wish that something bad would happen to me to make me go away as after all isn't that what KWS sort-of said in a round about way in saying I don't deserve this technology and it shouldn't be me who figures it outQuote
Everyone knows why I dont like You....its the same problem everybody has with you....
Its funny to me now.....at least you have that to fall back on when the course is finished lol
Ehh but you know what they say dont ya......lmao.
You still havent posted any usuable amount of gas production and never will.....you still havent posted a current waveform now that you may be getting threshold voltages (lol) Why not just do a single cell so you can reach it After all according to you.....kinda pointless isnt it. ...no usable gas production and no current waveform?? to have such a allmighty better than thou attitude...What good are you -
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I got banned from this site for wanting to talk about ionization
You didn't get "banned", only suspended for a month - you're still here. And it was for posting about religion, not ionization.
Quoteand even you wanted me banned for consistently saying this technology is about ionization.
You are fabricating, pure and simple. END OF DISCUSSION.
Steve do you care to enlighten this guy? as after all it was you who banned me back in 2008 for wanting to talk about the Gas Processor or was it something else?
(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y320/h2opower/Picture888.jpg)
P.S. I was already banned when I designed and had these Gas Processors made.
Please dont toy with my intelligence here...
Its an attemp to proces gas.
I havent seen any evidence that yr setup is doing what you claim.
For sure it looks like what Meyer made.
Cheers
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Ed only gets banned from the forums because he's the biggest 'know it all' out there. His head is so big he thinks he's getting banned because he knows it all.
Ed, we bow to you....and humbly await your Meyer wisdom if you are so loving as to share it with us!I got banned from this site for wanting to talk about ionization
You didn't get "banned", only suspended for a month - you're still here. And it was for posting about religion, not ionization.
Quoteand even you wanted me banned for consistently saying this technology is about ionization.
You are fabricating, pure and simple. END OF DISCUSSION.
Steve do you care to enlighten this guy? as after all it was you who banned me back in 2008 for wanting to talk about the Gas Processor or was it something else?
(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y320/h2opower/Picture888.jpg)
P.S. I was already banned when I designed and had these Gas Processors made.
Please dont toy with my intelligence here...
Its an attemp to proces gas.
I havent seen any evidence that yr setup is doing what you claim.
For sure it looks like what Meyer made.
Cheers
Bow all you want but you best bow to the most high YAH and not to any man as I am not worthy of such an honor. One thing I know is going to happen is I am not planning on sharing this information with any of you for you have let me know quite clearly you do not want this technology if it is to come from me. I show results no one else has even come close to showing and what do I get from practically all of you but childish disdain.
Another thing I have noticed is those that are in a position to clear my good name never do and that is a choice to do evil and not good. It's just as Meyer said, "Don't expect them to support you for they will not..." Trust me when I tell you this there is coming a time all of you are going to wish I was still in my naive sharing mode as I was when I started into this technology but thanks to all of you I was made to go it alone and pushed out of your little forums. You woke me up to the truth about the true meaning of "OPEN SOURCE" and it has nothing to do with helping humanity and all about competition, glory seeking, and greed.
Again I state the obvious in that no one has shown examples of themselves putting more voltage to the load than I have and that is a fact that practically all of you wish just wasn't true.
(http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y320/h2opower/personalpics009_zpscf31888c.jpg) -
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Ed, you keep on telling everyone you know it all and your not going to share anything and that your leaving. Why do you keep coming back? Just leave dude. We don't need your infinite intelligence granted to you by the most high.
We're all on these forums to have fun, ask questions and share and help each other. Just the other day a newbie was asking questions about Stan's tech and all you could do was tell him you knew it all and he was behind. No help, no suggestions, no guidance, nothing...
You getting kicked off the forums is not because you know it all, it's because you don't know how to treat other people.
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Ed, you keep on telling everyone you know it all and your not going to share anything and that your leaving. Why do you keep coming back? Just leave dude. We don't need your infinite intelligence granted to you by the most high.
We're all on these forums to have fun, ask questions and share and help each other. Just the other day a newbie was asking questions about Stan's tech and all you could do was tell him you knew it all and he was behind. No help, no suggestions, no guidance, nothing...
You getting kicked off the forums is not because you know it all, it's because you don't know how to treat other people.
Thats what is so disgusting about that dude...he comes here to try and gain knowledge under the illusion of allready knowing everything yet all he can produce is a scope shot and overly priced novelty items that have no real usuability....its as if he truly thinks people here and other forums are as gullible as the general public thats never seen an electrolyser....sometimes its funny but most of the time its infuriating with all the insults...i honestly think what he is trying to do is piss off the right person to fall into an information war to try and pull his self out of the hole he has rutted his self into...the dude will never produce any appreciated amount of fuel untill some one shows him how and with his attitude that likely will NEVER happen -
#22 ·
Hello
Ive been over to open source energy and it looks like Ive been shut out .
a few days ago I had to renew my password ...ok then did that , today I go there and now my log on is rejected so I figure re register
.......that doesnt happen either , also there is no way of contacting the engine room of that forum ....... or is just me?
hi massive,
i came all the way here to see why you say this?
i looked at your account and its in good standing order. there appears there is no reasons why you should be locked out ECT. we have had a lot of logging and out problems after we moved the forums. still trying to fix some of them.
sorry your having problems
let me know if i can help.
thanks,
~Russ
OSE admin.
PS. Hi Ed, hope your well.
god bless
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#23 ·
Hi Russel
week or so ago I tried log in as usual and continued to be rejected , gave it days to see if it was a glitch . decided to reset p word .
that worked for a number of days then that p word was rejected .
next step was to see if I could open another account , that only went as far as agreement form .....so back to ionizationx.
I am familiar with banning , I had 20 odd posts on energetic , I dared question the Murakami and bang!!
I joined Rosemary Ainslie formum , I dared ask a question and bang!! it was my only post .....
so to get closed out of OSE is no surprise to me
I can only scratch my head ask myself "whatd I say?"
thank you Will -
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maybe you got some hacker attack.. =)
i dont remember me getting banned from anywhere... -
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Hello Russ,
I'm doing fine these days just busy with project work, looking after my health, and the family mostly.
Well, as you can see being banned has it's consequences as you are never sure just what that individual will do in the future.