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This is my water cell. Seems to act like a capacitor to me.
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Yes, the current and voltage are always in phase. I just made it work the way he said it was supposed to. That's what I found. I kind of thought of it as a resistive inductor because the metal tubes polarized and stored a charge. I was able to disconnect the circuit and put a LED across the cell and keep it lit for about 20 seconds as the charge bled off the cell. That is only the tubes not the circuit.Stan talks about changing the structure of the metal.
That's not how I made the chokes.
That's not how I made the chokes.
If you knew how it worked, you would know what actually comes out of it!.
Thanks for the entertainment!.
Thanks for the entertainment!.
I'm really surprised you guys haven't figured this out yet.
The VIC is a program, a set of circuit instructions.
1. At low voltage start regular electrolysis which in turn...
2. Creates HHO gas. The HHO gradually replaces the place of the water between the plates in the water capacitor which gradually increases the capacitance of the WFC.
3. Keep increasing the voltage gradually while adjusting resonance
4. Eventually the gas replaces all the water between the plates allowing the charge to sky rocket and use voltage to produce HHO.
Look up Ronnie Walker's forum for details.
You are not even close to what goes on. There is no electrolysis in the process and it does not create HHO gas.
The main thing is to see how he was pulsing the cell. The other things come later to those who figure it out. The independent evaluation report describes what happens when you blast water with a cap. That goes along with what Meyer says in his video.
You do not pulse the chokes, you feed them. unfiltered DC. (low frequency charging the cap) Although it does not look isolated, it is when its working. Provided you don't drain it too low and are running at resonance.
The bifilar chokes, lock every thing down when the cap is fired.
You do not pulse the chokes, you feed them. unfiltered DC. (low frequency charging the cap) Although it does not look isolated, it is when its working. Provided you don't drain it too low and are running at resonance.
The bifilar chokes, lock every thing down when the cap is fired.
conclusion the chokes plus the secondary form a pulse forming network system that charges thru and discharges all the energy on the water later, the diode is key to let the secondary become part of it also on the discharge time..
the charging will align the molecules and polarize them electronically, the discharging will induce the resonance in the molecule
the circuit is tuned to a certain water resonant frequency . the pulses are interrupted or gated when the system reach resonance of the molecule to allow the molecule to rearrange ..
when a gas go out with positive polarity and the cell remain negative it will become an electron source reversely it become a sync it can be whatever depending on how the system of discharge is designed...
is impressive how clear i can look at it now! i kind of im sure if i could take some time over it we could get it to work ... meyer told the true for us but we missed some knowledge and patience to look at it with kiss method...
i believe the diode is one of the main secrets ever in this technology and the best way i could try to use it is somehow if you know how many transistors i burned in the past and how i solved the problem of burning them you know what diode i talk about
well what i can tell is that the power must go to the water and not get dissipated on the primary side never now i can clearly see that this is one of what i was doing very wrong .. unfortunately lack money is what lead me to this situation... because i could not let more transistors burn.. hahaa well lets direct the power elsewhere in the circuit
i believe duty cycle can and should be increase to make it easier to get the system going
draw this ckt
isolated battery
primary connected to it and to a mosfet drain... source connected to battery negative
secondary connected to the positive dc going to the primary too but thru a diode
after the diode the choke is connected .. having a capacitor in parallel if needed (HV one) than connected to the cell
the choke allow the cell to charge while the choke capacitance is charged
on the other side of the cell the other choke is connected and it goes to the drain too!
if everything is isolated from ground and the output gas is positive than there is going to be a negative potential on the system (free electrons that can be used with a real ground)
so the ecc circuit now can do its work
This is not theory. Its a DC resonant charging circuit. However, there are about a half dozen other things that are hidden. So, I do not have to be concerned about the gold diggers and companies trolling this thread for new ideas they can capitalize on.
That circuit will not work. The dummy is trying to prove his theory, but doesn't understand the electronics behind doing it correctly. Also, I have done it as he explains. But you are not going to get around not using any amps to break the water down, and neither is he. And if Im Stan Meyer I could twist it around and claim i'm just using voltage to break the water down. If you want to get technical.
It is more about making the correct gas and what you do with that gas. Massive amounts are not needed.
It is more about making the correct gas and what you do with that gas. Massive amounts are not needed.
Hello
Ive been over to open source energy and it looks like Ive been shut out .
a few days ago I had to renew my password ...ok then did that , today I go there and now my log on is rejected so I figure re register
.......that doesnt happen either , also there is no way of contacting the engine room of that forum ....... or is just me?
so .... the only reason I log on is because the forum has hidden threads which in itself is pointless ....... and NOT "OPEN" .
The last thread I posted on was by Ron some one = IDK! , the tech brief thread .
the last post , I questioned the dielectric constant of water , the FACT that it has no units <<<<< this seems to really rub people the wrong way
^^^ I can only assume that this has upset a / the moderator or the owner of the site
so Id just like to say ....
THE DIELECTRIC CONSTANT HAS NO UNITS
^ this fact will not change for anyone no matter how upset you are capable of getting
The site owners should take some time to try and define what dielectric constant means and what units are used IF ANY
there is supposed to be some electronics whiz on that site , surely they know fundamentals and if they do they surely havent spoken up or are afraid to question Ron or point out the flaws
good day people
Here is Something I found on the dielectric constant of water
"Electric fields lower the dielectric constant of the water, due to the resultant partial or complete destruction of the hydrogen-bonded network."
(reference)
I. Danielewicz-Ferchmin and A. R. Ferchmin, Water at ions, biomolecules and charged surfaces, Phys. Chem. Liquids 42 (2004) 1-36.
Yeah it is rather interesting you can not obtain those scr's. Its kind of like me saying that I figured out all of Meyers secrets because I have this 1000 dollar golden staff that you can't buy. Sound familiar!
There is another way to accomplish what those studies set out to do.
There is another way to accomplish what those studies set out to do.
For the Nitrogen guy.
US 4389981 A
In my co-pending patent application filed May 5, 1981, U.S. Ser. No. 262,744 now abandoned for Hydrogen-Airdation Processor, non-volatile and non-combustible gasses are controlled in a mixing stage with a volatile gas. The hydrogen airdation processor system utilizes a rotational mechanical gas displacement system to transfer, meter, mix, and pressurize the various gasses. In the gas transformation process, ambient air is passed through an open flame gas-burner system to eliminate gasses and other present substances. Thereafter the non-combustible gas-mixture is cooled, filtered for impurity removal, and mechanically mixed with a pre-determined amount of hydrogen gas. There results a new synthetic gas. The synthetic gas formation stage also volume meters and determines the proper gas-mixing ratio for establishing the desired burn-rate of hydrogen gas. The rotational mechanical gas displacement system in that process determines the volume-amount of synthetic gas to be produced.
Ummm, I think Meyer was using Nitrogen!.
Puharich - His system was mainly based on thermodynamics. He used a Pizeoelectric/far infrared emitting ceramic. If you look closely at the device, the action (current) takes place across the bottom of the device where the ceramic is sandwiched between the cathode and anode it is Porous. The "bubbles" come out of the ceramic member next to the anode. Hence, he is resonating the micro cavities within the ceramic, with the aid of far IR weakening the hydrogen bonds. This raises the efficiency. (recycle the heat, weaken the bonds, shatter with frequency)
I do believe that Horvath is mentioned in the Puharich patent.
US 4389981 A
In my co-pending patent application filed May 5, 1981, U.S. Ser. No. 262,744 now abandoned for Hydrogen-Airdation Processor, non-volatile and non-combustible gasses are controlled in a mixing stage with a volatile gas. The hydrogen airdation processor system utilizes a rotational mechanical gas displacement system to transfer, meter, mix, and pressurize the various gasses. In the gas transformation process, ambient air is passed through an open flame gas-burner system to eliminate gasses and other present substances. Thereafter the non-combustible gas-mixture is cooled, filtered for impurity removal, and mechanically mixed with a pre-determined amount of hydrogen gas. There results a new synthetic gas. The synthetic gas formation stage also volume meters and determines the proper gas-mixing ratio for establishing the desired burn-rate of hydrogen gas. The rotational mechanical gas displacement system in that process determines the volume-amount of synthetic gas to be produced.
Ummm, I think Meyer was using Nitrogen!.
Puharich - His system was mainly based on thermodynamics. He used a Pizeoelectric/far infrared emitting ceramic. If you look closely at the device, the action (current) takes place across the bottom of the device where the ceramic is sandwiched between the cathode and anode it is Porous. The "bubbles" come out of the ceramic member next to the anode. Hence, he is resonating the micro cavities within the ceramic, with the aid of far IR weakening the hydrogen bonds. This raises the efficiency. (recycle the heat, weaken the bonds, shatter with frequency)
I do believe that Horvath is mentioned in the Puharich patent.
Im working on putting something together. Here it is so far, Its thrown together from various circuits. But this is the basic idea.
There are lots of variables to play with, you can try a 555 to pulse the voltage, but you cant go over 70% duty without drawing current thru the low side.(maybe I will change that) You can use the 8xa circuit for a reference. or even modify it.
On my circuit, I will add another scr and invert the 555 signal to it. That way you can run the EEC.
Im thinking of using a p channel mosfet to pulse the voltage. I used a 200v darlington .
Please don't waste your time making this unless you have a variable plate cell. If you don't have one make one. or else You will hit a voltage limit and just turn the cell into a water heater. (or use 24" tube cells like Meyer did)
Electron removal. I think this is the best and second best way to do it. I used a glass sealed heating element. 12v 25w was all I had laying around. It got hot, and that's what you want, it did keep the water cool.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_cathode
There are lots of variables to play with, you can try a 555 to pulse the voltage, but you cant go over 70% duty without drawing current thru the low side.(maybe I will change that) You can use the 8xa circuit for a reference. or even modify it.
On my circuit, I will add another scr and invert the 555 signal to it. That way you can run the EEC.
Im thinking of using a p channel mosfet to pulse the voltage. I used a 200v darlington .
Please don't waste your time making this unless you have a variable plate cell. If you don't have one make one. or else You will hit a voltage limit and just turn the cell into a water heater. (or use 24" tube cells like Meyer did)
Electron removal. I think this is the best and second best way to do it. I used a glass sealed heating element. 12v 25w was all I had laying around. It got hot, and that's what you want, it did keep the water cool.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_cathode
Hi Hard Krome.
What choke and cell you used , and what voltage you reached when water started heating, tell please?
Thank for sharing and ansver.
andy
If I told you what I used, then you would make the same mistakes I did wouldn't you?. Make A variable plate cell and use the 8xa circuit posted on this site. Make that thing work right first, When you get it current limiting, then move to the next step.
I figured out the scr 5yrs ago btw. Im working on something better.
We do not know exactly how circuit one was built, its gone. the 8xa is the closest thing to it. It is archaic but it will work along with the variable plate cell to figure out the whole thing.
The water heats because the electrons need removed. You convert their energy by way of resistance, converting that into an electromagnetic field that magnetizes a core, that creates a pulse which goes back into the cell. You do not burn a light bulb.
The circuit is fairly simple. like Meyers patent circuit. I think the key is the holding current on the scr.
The choke should be able to commutate the scr off.
When I first did it, I used a variac with a bridge an scr and a choke.
When I would turn on the scr, it would bleed the current across the cell and lock in at full current. (then its impossible to shut it off)
The scr would blow or I would kick out the main breaker in the house. I went thru a pile of scr's I got from work.
Then I remembered I had ordered some off the internet, I put one of them in and presto, the damn thing worked, It was so fast the mains couldn't detect any current draw. I even soldered a piece of 37ga wire across a blown fuse and put that in the variac, it never blew.
What I quickly figured out was that I needed a variable plate cell to widen the gap so I could take the voltage up on the variac. But that didn't stop me, I jacked up the volts anyways. It still current limited itself, but the water started heating. (need bigger gap)
The interesting thing was that the tiny scr never even got warm. Quite bizarre I must say. You would never think it would work.
So I then learned that the frequency of the voltage needed to be adjustable for the tiny cell.
I figured that if I smoothed the DC voltage and pulsed it thru a transistor to the scr, I would be able to control the frequency and the commutation of the scr.
You can use a 555 or a 4047 with a opto coupler to pulse the voltage going to the scr . Then run another 555 thru an opto coupler to the scr, when it fires, the gate pulse from it will hold the scr down and let the pulses thru it, The choke will self commutate and keep shutting it off between frequency pulses (your 50% duty cycle frequency pulses) Very simply, you can take the Dave Lawton circuit separate the outputs and run them thru opto couplers.
Now the scr I used was a S4006LS2 from futurlec. I used the 4010 version when I pulsed the voltage. Its a very small scr TO220 case. Don't let size deceive you, because your not really drawing anything but milliamps thru it. Think of the positive choke like its a spring, when the scr closes the Self Inductance field forms around the choke,(its compressed) you want to turn that scr off just as it forms. If it shuts off in time the power supply dosent see a current draw.
If you use an adjustable plate cell, you can figure out the choke sizing and cell sizing really fast. Naturally there is going to be heat where there is water breaking apart, you can remove that with a 3-23 transformer connected to the cell also or try to burn a light bulb. It should pulse itself and run out of phase with the scr circuit, because its secondarys connected backwards. The amplitude at which you pulse the primary on the 3-23 will determine the amplitude of the overall circuit, because the 3-23 secondary is nothing but a variable resistor between the cell.
So, lets add up all the gaps on Meyers 10 tube cells?. That number will be the total gap distance on the single plate variable cell, which means he had a high voltage going to the cells. lets not kid ourselves, we can see the heavy gauge wire connected in series to that setup. Being connected in series also lowers the capacitance of the cells.
Also, if he is breaking all that water apart, where is the EEC circuit?. Its the 3-23. It also unloads the positive choke.
Overall, to run that setup on the dune buggy Circuit One needs to be figured out more precisely. That we do not have. Im guessing that it also ran on a PLL and the frequency of the voltage to the scr was adjusted automatically and power came from an alternator.
I think that the 10 cells can be eliminated to one cell and one EEC. I think Stan didn't want people to see how easy it was being done.
http://share.pdfonline.com/5ae59a0009f44562b8c325f6045f67fb/commutation.htm
See Class (A)........ Add 3-23 transformer in place of (R) .
Water becomes part of the circuit. The electrons get pulled from the water, before the electrons from the circuit can pass thru the water. The resistance of the 3-23 chokes play a very big part in this. 75ohms a piece. Does that ring a bell with Stan mentioning the resistance of water all the time. In the NZ video he even mentions re-routing Electrons around the Cell.
The 3-23 dosent give a pulse until the magnetic field is removed from it, remember its being charged up by Circuit 1. The amplitude on the primary is controlling the magnetic field, that is opposing the current thru the chokes from circuit 1.(simply put) The 3-23 core controls how much the chokes induct..
The choke should be able to commutate the scr off.
When I first did it, I used a variac with a bridge an scr and a choke.
When I would turn on the scr, it would bleed the current across the cell and lock in at full current. (then its impossible to shut it off)
The scr would blow or I would kick out the main breaker in the house. I went thru a pile of scr's I got from work.
Then I remembered I had ordered some off the internet, I put one of them in and presto, the damn thing worked, It was so fast the mains couldn't detect any current draw. I even soldered a piece of 37ga wire across a blown fuse and put that in the variac, it never blew.
What I quickly figured out was that I needed a variable plate cell to widen the gap so I could take the voltage up on the variac. But that didn't stop me, I jacked up the volts anyways. It still current limited itself, but the water started heating. (need bigger gap)
The interesting thing was that the tiny scr never even got warm. Quite bizarre I must say. You would never think it would work.
So I then learned that the frequency of the voltage needed to be adjustable for the tiny cell.
I figured that if I smoothed the DC voltage and pulsed it thru a transistor to the scr, I would be able to control the frequency and the commutation of the scr.
You can use a 555 or a 4047 with a opto coupler to pulse the voltage going to the scr . Then run another 555 thru an opto coupler to the scr, when it fires, the gate pulse from it will hold the scr down and let the pulses thru it, The choke will self commutate and keep shutting it off between frequency pulses (your 50% duty cycle frequency pulses) Very simply, you can take the Dave Lawton circuit separate the outputs and run them thru opto couplers.
Now the scr I used was a S4006LS2 from futurlec. I used the 4010 version when I pulsed the voltage. Its a very small scr TO220 case. Don't let size deceive you, because your not really drawing anything but milliamps thru it. Think of the positive choke like its a spring, when the scr closes the Self Inductance field forms around the choke,(its compressed) you want to turn that scr off just as it forms. If it shuts off in time the power supply dosent see a current draw.
If you use an adjustable plate cell, you can figure out the choke sizing and cell sizing really fast. Naturally there is going to be heat where there is water breaking apart, you can remove that with a 3-23 transformer connected to the cell also or try to burn a light bulb. It should pulse itself and run out of phase with the scr circuit, because its secondarys connected backwards. The amplitude at which you pulse the primary on the 3-23 will determine the amplitude of the overall circuit, because the 3-23 secondary is nothing but a variable resistor between the cell.
So, lets add up all the gaps on Meyers 10 tube cells?. That number will be the total gap distance on the single plate variable cell, which means he had a high voltage going to the cells. lets not kid ourselves, we can see the heavy gauge wire connected in series to that setup. Being connected in series also lowers the capacitance of the cells.
Also, if he is breaking all that water apart, where is the EEC circuit?. Its the 3-23. It also unloads the positive choke.
Overall, to run that setup on the dune buggy Circuit One needs to be figured out more precisely. That we do not have. Im guessing that it also ran on a PLL and the frequency of the voltage to the scr was adjusted automatically and power came from an alternator.
I think that the 10 cells can be eliminated to one cell and one EEC. I think Stan didn't want people to see how easy it was being done.
http://share.pdfonline.com/5ae59a0009f44562b8c325f6045f67fb/commutation.htm
See Class (A)........ Add 3-23 transformer in place of (R) .
Water becomes part of the circuit. The electrons get pulled from the water, before the electrons from the circuit can pass thru the water. The resistance of the 3-23 chokes play a very big part in this. 75ohms a piece. Does that ring a bell with Stan mentioning the resistance of water all the time. In the NZ video he even mentions re-routing Electrons around the Cell.
The 3-23 dosent give a pulse until the magnetic field is removed from it, remember its being charged up by Circuit 1. The amplitude on the primary is controlling the magnetic field, that is opposing the current thru the chokes from circuit 1.(simply put) The 3-23 core controls how much the chokes induct..
I will add a little more.
I guess people cant figure out that Stan switched the circuit off so fast that the current couldn't cross the water. The key is to make the self inductance of the chokes cut off the scr before the current can cross the water.
You cant use unfiltered DC unless you have the adjustable plate cell, because you cant take the 120hz voltage higher with a narrow gap, only way around that is to keep switching in more tubes. That makes the gap wider.
The other way I came up with is what I describe above. Filtered DC -> Transistor pulsing at cell frequency -> scr -> choke. The scr turns on with your gate pulse shared with the EEC.
Don't waste your time with mosfets they bleed the current across the cell. The method I describe, is failsafe. The SCR will turn off regardless of the choke commutating it. and with the scope you can time it perfect.
I guess people cant figure out that Stan switched the circuit off so fast that the current couldn't cross the water. The key is to make the self inductance of the chokes cut off the scr before the current can cross the water.
You cant use unfiltered DC unless you have the adjustable plate cell, because you cant take the 120hz voltage higher with a narrow gap, only way around that is to keep switching in more tubes. That makes the gap wider.
The other way I came up with is what I describe above. Filtered DC -> Transistor pulsing at cell frequency -> scr -> choke. The scr turns on with your gate pulse shared with the EEC.
Don't waste your time with mosfets they bleed the current across the cell. The method I describe, is failsafe. The SCR will turn off regardless of the choke commutating it. and with the scope you can time it perfect.
Electrode Potential..
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Tubes have to be in the water, The voltage across the cell is during run time and is in the cavity. I happend to notice that after I was pulsing it for a couple of minutes, that the metal was retaining some charge because it is aligning the the water molecules.
The production dosen't start picking up at a fast rate until you hit about 50V across the cell stepping to 100v. The electrostatic bond that holds them together has to be broken. It surely does not work well with conductive water.
I work with SS everyday at work. As soon as any city water hits it, I get calcium on it. I have chiseled out calcium deposits 2" thick in SS pipes that had warm or hot water going through them. This process can not have any heat at all.
Now having a negative voltage on the negative tube and a positive on the positive tube will keep both tubes clean.
The production dosen't start picking up at a fast rate until you hit about 50V across the cell stepping to 100v. The electrostatic bond that holds them together has to be broken. It surely does not work well with conductive water.
I work with SS everyday at work. As soon as any city water hits it, I get calcium on it. I have chiseled out calcium deposits 2" thick in SS pipes that had warm or hot water going through them. This process can not have any heat at all.
Now having a negative voltage on the negative tube and a positive on the positive tube will keep both tubes clean.
Well I am far enough along to know what I am seeing, as I have it in front of me.
The SS will charge up and hold a charge, aligning the water molecules between them. (without the circuit attached) I have had in upwards of 6v difference between the tubes after its shut off, 2v after 24hrs. The higher the water charges up, the higher the potential between the tubes is. At a ratio of course. He says they hold enough of their charge during gating (T3) to keep the cell from discharging. That means the tubes maintain the charge at full rate during that time.
The 304 Stainless tubes do this because pulsing brings on atomic particle alignment in the metal. Positives on outside, negatives on the inside, depending on which tube it is. (it forms its own anode and cathode on each tube)
No current, no chemicals. Its electrostatic.
The tubes stay Clean. No white stuff, since there is no current.
The SS will charge up and hold a charge, aligning the water molecules between them. (without the circuit attached) I have had in upwards of 6v difference between the tubes after its shut off, 2v after 24hrs. The higher the water charges up, the higher the potential between the tubes is. At a ratio of course. He says they hold enough of their charge during gating (T3) to keep the cell from discharging. That means the tubes maintain the charge at full rate during that time.
The 304 Stainless tubes do this because pulsing brings on atomic particle alignment in the metal. Positives on outside, negatives on the inside, depending on which tube it is. (it forms its own anode and cathode on each tube)
No current, no chemicals. Its electrostatic.
The tubes stay Clean. No white stuff, since there is no current.
New video: Edward Mitchel
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It hasn't brought me much, because I keep finding out more stuff and keep making more boards. I know what im looking for it to do. Im busy on eliminating the scr and re-creating that circuit #1.
When Stan Meyer resonance is achieved, it is a phenomena. He calls it "pulse voltage frequency" it literally transmits thru stuff . The only way to control it is with the 3-23 by means of resistance. Adjusting your voltage down won't control it either once it starts
Replicating a phenomena is like looking for the needle in the haystack. Its something you cant figure out with textbooks because its not in them. The signal will change similar to what PuharIch mentions.
I have worked hard at this for 7 yrs, I do know that higher powers give the knowledge to do these types of things. They have always given me something when im about to quit. They make me learn it.
When Stan Meyer resonance is achieved, it is a phenomena. He calls it "pulse voltage frequency" it literally transmits thru stuff . The only way to control it is with the 3-23 by means of resistance. Adjusting your voltage down won't control it either once it starts
Replicating a phenomena is like looking for the needle in the haystack. Its something you cant figure out with textbooks because its not in them. The signal will change similar to what PuharIch mentions.
I have worked hard at this for 7 yrs, I do know that higher powers give the knowledge to do these types of things. They have always given me something when im about to quit. They make me learn it.
New video: Edward Mitchel
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I have not seen or heard of any legitimate replication either. None of them have ever offered any insight into what takes place when this resonance is reached. Major noticeable and unexplainable things occur when it happens.
The stuff Stan mentions in the memos are spot on accurate. He would never ever reveal how he cracked the water with voltage. All of the crap he put out was for public consumption and for the thieves who would want to cash in on him.
That stuff is nothing but high efficiency electrolysis. If that is what people seek, then they need to do their switching from the high side of the circuit with an scr at 150v - 200v. 50% duty. If the voltage is pulsed before going thru the scr by a transistor, the current limiting can be done very accurately between the transistor pulse, the scr and the positive choke resonating. You can see on the scope the pulse ending and the scr shutting off.
You better also plan on having an EEC because you will pull out electrons at an almost 8:1 ratio of whats being consumed on the low side. So one amp of consumption on the low side, will result in at least 8amps worth of electrons coming into the positive choke.
While we are at it, we can make a 3-23 transformer with a PLL circuit, that can take those electrons and use them to magnetize a core and create an extra pulse, it will pick up the pulse from the first circuit, Charge and fire between cycles at the frequency of the first circuit. Why would I burn a damn light bulb when I can make an extra pulse!!!. That is so misleading. This is why the secondary is wired backwards on the 3-23. The electrons cluster between the negative choke and the positive side of the secondary that is connected backwards. this is also why the coils are all about the same size. So you can make an extra pulse with it or reroute the electrons thru it while the first circuit is firing. That's a matter of phasing. And may create an imbalance.
If the high side is fast enough, it wont see any current being consumed. The scr is the only thing I have found fast enough. PS, Stan wants you to lock the current across the water before it shuts off. But if you pulse the filtered DC voltage you can shut it off anyways. However you should want to have the positive choke resonance commutate it.
The stuff Stan mentions in the memos are spot on accurate. He would never ever reveal how he cracked the water with voltage. All of the crap he put out was for public consumption and for the thieves who would want to cash in on him.
That stuff is nothing but high efficiency electrolysis. If that is what people seek, then they need to do their switching from the high side of the circuit with an scr at 150v - 200v. 50% duty. If the voltage is pulsed before going thru the scr by a transistor, the current limiting can be done very accurately between the transistor pulse, the scr and the positive choke resonating. You can see on the scope the pulse ending and the scr shutting off.
You better also plan on having an EEC because you will pull out electrons at an almost 8:1 ratio of whats being consumed on the low side. So one amp of consumption on the low side, will result in at least 8amps worth of electrons coming into the positive choke.
While we are at it, we can make a 3-23 transformer with a PLL circuit, that can take those electrons and use them to magnetize a core and create an extra pulse, it will pick up the pulse from the first circuit, Charge and fire between cycles at the frequency of the first circuit. Why would I burn a damn light bulb when I can make an extra pulse!!!. That is so misleading. This is why the secondary is wired backwards on the 3-23. The electrons cluster between the negative choke and the positive side of the secondary that is connected backwards. this is also why the coils are all about the same size. So you can make an extra pulse with it or reroute the electrons thru it while the first circuit is firing. That's a matter of phasing. And may create an imbalance.
If the high side is fast enough, it wont see any current being consumed. The scr is the only thing I have found fast enough. PS, Stan wants you to lock the current across the water before it shuts off. But if you pulse the filtered DC voltage you can shut it off anyways. However you should want to have the positive choke resonance commutate it.