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TGS

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Hello Russ,

I'm doing fine these days just busy with project work, looking after my health, and the family mostly.

Well, as you can see being banned has it's consequences as you are never sure just what that individual will do in the future.

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#50 ·

Do you remember when I used Ris's books to prove I was correct about something? Right now I could do the same thing concerning Meyer's technology as science can explain how it all works. I even created new general theory based on the science behind this technology that are shown to be taking place in nature also as I found the examples that go along with the theory through observation. One shows the water being broken down by way of ionization the other by taking away the electrons from the atoms that make up the water molecules. Plus I have found a whole lot more things taking place in nature that prove the theory to be valid. Remember I am a man of science and one of my goals was to come up with a new theory for the science books.

I'll look into what you had said when I have completed my work on this as I have to get back to the Gas Processor once I am done with the Water Fuel Capacitor. One thing I want you to understand is Meyer himself says the working voltage of the resonant cavity is 1kv or more as those are not my words. Thus for an exciter array like mines it will take 10kv or more as I have them wired in series. Just allow me to reach this benchmark voltage Meyer set for us as then I will know for sure. Hopefully the new setup will reach 20kv or more being applied to the water fuel cell at measurement points D&E.

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#47 ·

It seems Ronnie and I have a difference of opinion in that I am shooting for the benchmark voltage Meyer set for us being 1kv per resonant cavity and he I have no idea. Since the both of us don't share all that much we have no idea what each other is actually doing so for him to make a rant on the RWG about me just throwing volts at the water fuel capacitor he fails to understand that until we reach the benchmark voltage we can't see what Meyer was talking about. I am okay leaving him to his thoughts and wish he would would extend the same curtsy to me.

Since I understand the science behind the technology I understand that we are ionizing the atoms that make up the water molecules in order to get the molecules to simply fall apart once the atoms start to give up their electrons. The rules for ionization don't change when it comes to using electricity to ionize atoms, IE, high voltage potential difference and low amps. What changed in what Meyer was doing was the medium as water has far less resistance than air has. One day people will understand this easy to understand science but for now I guess they need to go back to school as they seem to have gaps in their learning. My whole focus was getting at the science behind the technology so I could see the whole picture as that is how I work best at problem solving so I play to my strengths. Once I understood the science behind the technology I was able to troubleshoot it far more effectively than before I understood the science behind the technology.

For me I have always been good at problem solving and troubleshooting. I recognize that I don't think like everyone else as I would solve problems far faster than most. I remember arriving at my new station while I was in the military and people playing jokes on me in that they gave the new SGT a couple of bays with trucks in them that had not worked in over nine months stuck in those bays. These trucks had problems they couldn't figure out and they had given up on them. It took me just two weeks to get those trucks out of my bays fixing what they said couldn't be fixed. Like what's happening to me with these forums they weren't happy that I fixed those trucks and got jealous of my abilities when it came to problem solving and troubleshooting. They would even tell me to slow my roll as I was making them all look bad again the same situation I face here in showing results no one else is even coming close to showing at this moment in time. But like I said this is not new ground to me as I have been here before in dealing with a lot of jealous people.

When I had gotten those vehicles out of my bays those same people who couldn't figure out what was wrong with those trucks in close to a years time had the nerve to tell me, "What took you so long." Mind you that it took me two weeks to get those trucks out of my bay which means I solved what they couldn't solve, ordered the parts, and installed them in two weeks time so it actually took me less than a week to figure out what was wrong with them. With Meyer's technology what has taken me so long is it has a lot of stumbling blocks one must over come along with figuring out the science behind the technology. The science part didn't take me all that long in that it took me around six years to understand it but the stumbling blocks did take a bit of time to discover as they go towards the core of the technology leading people the wrong way on purpose or out of ignorance of those that placed these stumbling blocks in our way.

This is to Ronnie, lets just agree to disagree, okay? You have what you think is a solution and I have what I think is a solution that is based on sound scientific principles by making use of the scientific and engineering methods. Best of luck to us both.

TGS

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Being that I have been banned from more forums than most this sounds funny to me as I have been banned from this site, the energetic site, Max's site, the RWG site, and the all about circuits site. The primary reason is I will speak truth to power as I place no man on a unquestionable pedestal. Just ask some of the members here as I prefer to tell them the truth rather than give them a pat on the back when they ask for an honest opinion.

I did my best with people in showing them what I was learning in real time but what I didn't count on was people getting jealous of me as after all I was sharing what I know openly. But as time passed all of the openness began to breakdown as too many were in it for competition running around arguing all the time about someone calling them out on the false claims they tend to make and the never giving credit where credit was due. It got so bad that one day I just left and started working on my own.

For me the words "Open Source" has a negative continent to it as it is associated with a lot of bad experiences during my time in open source. Somewhere along the way I lost hope in Open Source as it became mostly about competition and seem to be run by the Naysayers and blind leaders.

Ushering in the science of freedom is my new mission now so I must be patient and let time run it's coarse.

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#27 ·

This is why I blocked you on FB as I knew you have passed the point of no return. Right here in this thread you just said I didn't measure the voltage across the cell and I just posted a post you made showing that you did say you measured the voltage across the cell. Listen you can't have it both ways okay as it doesn't work like that.

You, Eletrotech, and a whole host of other people just love to take pokes at me from time to time just to see if you can get me to change the tune I have been signing since the 2013 Global BEM.  As for the equipment I've had the right tools for the job for a very long time now. I got it when I started to work on the 8xa circuit as I couldn't make use of the probe that came with the scope for it would shut down the house breakers.

You say you didn't mean to mislead anyone but I think you just got caught up in the fight and wanted to come out on top to say to everyone, "There's no need to listen to him as I am getting higher voltages to my cell." But you did cause damage to the movement in that what you claimed was way over what Meyer stated in the patents to be the working voltages for the exciter array. Basically you tossed out what Meyer said as you passed his statements by 2000 volts or more and your set up wasn't working. Now that is true damage to the movement for now how many volts do we need to make this technology work?

Plus you make people like me look like we are just messing around and accomplishing nothing, which was your intent with the statement you made. I proved I was right with Electrotek about the science behind the technology I was telling everyone about with the help of a friend. With the core science the technology can be solved as those who understand what I wrote can figured out what the goal is. Now in the Global BEM video I already told people what the goal is but now I had some added scientific proof I was telling the truth and not just a hunch. Anyone that watched the video can tell just what the difference is between Dr. Faraday's electrolysis method and Stanley Meyer's voltage breakdown method. But in the spirit of competition "Who cares," right? People have been running around telling people not to listen to me for years now and since the post has been made of showing just where to take the measurements from no one wants to do it for some strange reason.

If I make a mistake I own up to it as if I don't I can cause someone to get lost who might be looking in on what I am doing, but people like me are rare in today's world aren't they?

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#25 ·

quote from edd talking behind my back on this post somewhere non related to this discussion...

What case? Me calling you out in what you told the group was a lie or a gross assumption that is totally unfounded by facts? I quote, "for the record i got up to 50kv on the exciters and more than 3kv across each cell.. by the way reaching high voltages is not a problem.." This is what you wrote and it is not truthful and you don't care of the damage you are doing to the technology by saying things like this just to save face.

I just pointed out there is no way you got the voltages you are claiming here as you simply don't have the proper equipment to be able to tell what voltages you are getting to your exciter array. You say, "by the way reaching high voltages is not a problem," and that too is not the truth as if it was everyone would be getting high voltages to their exciter arrays.

This was said by you to belittle my work and you do so for your own personal reason of which to me seem like you are doing so just to save face. I have to call people like you out as they have no idea of the damages that they are doing to the movement. Basically you are saying high voltage isn't the answer which goes against what Meyer himself told everyone in his many lecture videos and it also goes against what my experiments have been telling me thought my observations of said technology.

I am sorry I have to do this but it is time for this type of behavior to be put in check as it is hurting the movement. If you build what I have just shown you you will get high voltages to your exciter array, but in order to be able to see what is taking place you must get a differential probe capable of handling the voltages we are dealing with. There is no going around this as you also stated for you simply will not be able to see what 's taking place at the exciter array without the proper equipment to be able to do so, thus making what you have told all of us here and to those that visit this site an untrue statement. Like I said I am sorry for this but it's time for this Tom Foolery to stop as people deserve to be told the truth.
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Ok Edd if with all your vic together you won't get high voltage. i'm sorry for you... its not my problem.. its your fault, not mine...

i don't come here to say thing on your post only... if you look i reached this voltages many times in the past and not only me... and yes i can measure it ..accurately.. 

If you improve your hearing or reading you would understand how i do it. what i use for that... i don't need any fancy device to see what is going on, although i didn't finished the graduation yet i'm a damn scientist and i know now what i'm doing... more everyday..

and by the way the high voltage probe i get is very good precision... so as my dmm so please forget about me and my equipment and keep going... your not reaching.. i'm not in your way... not holding you down...  nor anyone.. nor i want any  problematic followers ...

if you know what you are doing even coil connected to a multimeter is good way to see the fields present...

you have no clue about what is the blocking diode... or how it operates... you just keep the same arguments and raise up the voice...

you are a classic moron still accusing me of not following meyer...since 2007(hurting the movement) of course my i'm using science! 

sorry to be hard but you don't seem to get it when i put in a good way...

the main problem is that i think you are so so steamy about me having so much higher voltage than you to the cell and yet not being satisfied i come to you and say i have a theory i'm working on..

so stop crying like a baby and create your theory and go put you theory in action and stop wasting our times with your words...

As you can see I just caught you in a lie as you did say you were getting 3kv to each cell (resonant cavity's) and 50kv to your cell. This was at a time when you and Electrotek were having a go at me. You said this not knowing that Meyer said it takes 1kv or more to make the resonant cavity work correctly. In fact you said all kinds of things that would totally throw someone off the right path trying to figure out how Meyer's technology actually worked back then. Do you see your competitive combativeness towards the results I showed? I sure do and being a smart man devised a plan to trap you in this lie in a way that all could see it. Sure it cost me $50 bucks but it worked and at the same time I helped get you a tool you needed to be able to actually view this technology. Now you know you were not getting 50kv to your cell and more than likely weren't even getting more than 100 volts to your cell. But that is a good thing as now you can improve upon your results as now you have the right tool for the job at hand. This is what it took to help you but the job isn't done until you fess up in front of your peers. Have fun!

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#23 ·

When I was at the 2013 Global BEM I tried hooking up the transformers in parallel and it didn't work out. At low voltages sure it seems good but try to go for the benchmark voltage and one of the transformers is going to blow. Yeah, been there done that but you would know that already if you actually read the post under that video that takes you to the Aethernet site.

Now to go back to this 50kv you said at a time when I showed everyone just what I was getting at the cell and I repeatedly ask you show your work and to this date you have not. This is why people get confused as people like you run around making themselves sound better than they actually are. I notice that you completely forgot to address just how what you posted would confuse people as those voltages are far over what Meyer says are the working voltages for the exciter array. I never showed anyone the 9.3kv and more than likely never will as then you would say your getting 60kv as it's all about competition no?! You said what you said to shut me down back then and yes I never forgot it.

To this date no one has shown more voltage being applied to the water fuel capacitor than I have but my word means nothing as anyone can do that, right, but that just isn't true is it, huh? No, one ask how I did what I did but just went towards the flow following others as they moved to shut my voice down. It was at a time when there was a all out attack on me when you made those comments and I have plenty of eye witnesses.

As for Gunther he doesn't agree with the guy but was just happy that someone actually gave me credit for something I have done. I had a talk with him and told him the guy was going against what I was talking about and he said I know but was just happy someone finally gave you credit for one of the many ideas I came up with. So, you go right ahead and hook up some transformers in parallel and see the outcome for yourself when you try and reach the benchmark voltage Meyer gave us to reach. Make sure you make a video of your transformer burning up as I forgot to make one when mines burned up.

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#16 ·

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Now when it comes to this technology I think I have done a great job at explaining the science behind the patents as I haven't changed my tune one bit since the 2013 Global BEM. The treatment I have gotten for my work is nothing less than pathetic. I show my work and it's ridiculed, I show the science and someone that knows nothing comes in and tears it down and everyone takes their word when they have shown zero results and a lot of times they don't even have the needed test equipment in order to view this technology.

Now I have given up on people as even when I have taken the time to actually tell someone how this technology truly works they feel the need to publically take a crap on me as how it truly works is far from how they thought it worked. Now I will just go along with the company mission of getting this technology built for those that need it most as I feel I have done my part in Open Source even at times doing things that changed the course of the river. Open Source however has shown me nothing but disdain for the most part so it's now all about the new mission as the answers to questions I got from Open Source showed me that this isn't how the people are going to actually get this technology. Too much ego worship, lying, and competition, and not enough cooperation, work load sharing or sharing in general. People show up for pats on the back instead of the hard truth and trust me nothing will be gained like that.

I show waveforms' that show high voltage being applied to the load and not only do people not want to talk about it they seem to feel mad about what they are seeing. Most of the time I don't get it as everything I am doing goes hand in hand with the words of Stanley Meyer in how things should be working as I am applying a high voltage to the load and restricting the amps at the same time just as Meyer says should be going on. But the responses I get are the total opposite of what expected to get from most but not all say like 99.5% bad. Reading the comments on the interview video shows exactly what I am talking about. Instead of others showing their work and more progress being made the total opposite takes place in a truly mean and even hurtful way. People take it as a place to have competition with me instead of a place to share and improve upon our results together. Basically I have been forced to go it alone and now I have accepted that and moved on and truly left everyone behind in doing so. Now when I talk most simply have no idea what I am talking about and they make rash judgmental comments only to find out that I was right the whole time sometime later. Ionization is the key to this technology and we must figure out a way to go about doing it in water just as we do in air realizing the only thing that has truly changed is the medium we are trying to ionize the atoms in as the rules for ionization don't change.

I took the time to watch the interview video again and feel comfortable in that I told the truth to the best of my abilities to do so at that point of my understanding about this technology. I think things our totally out of my hands now for I have put forth the science, proved the science, and showed limited positive results that appear to heading in the right direction. I talk about what Meyer tells us is a benchmark as far as what voltages we should be striving for as no one can say anything about Meyer's truth level until they reach the benchmark he states in the patents. This means you must get 1kv or more to the load measured at points D&E shown in the post with turn count data in it. You must get the right tools for the task at hand and not doing so means your out as you can't show up as a Doctor to perform heart surgery with a butter knife in your hands to work with as that is just not going to cut it.

More than likely this will be the year this technology comes out. How many of us will take the hard task of building this for the masses will be shown as time moves on. One thing I have hopefully made clear is not everyone can build this technology even with a complete set of plans in their hands so someone is going to have to step up to the plate and build it for them, and you must ask yourself, "Am I that someone?"

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#15 ·

It's more than that as they hear only what they want to hear and ignore all else. They will learn about transformer turn ratios and then do the math and come up with a 1:30 or higher turn ratio transformer not realizing that they have just planed to build and/or have built a "Glass Joe" transformer for as soon as they go to hook it up to a load the legs will drop out from underneath it. The simply skipped over the parts that talks about power factor and transformer losses.
They think that because on paper it says it will kick out 10kv with 50 volts input that it must be doing that even though it's not reading so on their test equipment. I have seen people build step up transformers with a turn ratio of 1:150 as that is what the math they worked out said must be the turn ratio of the transformer to reach these voltages they would like to get at points D&E. They have no idea that that supper "Glass Joe"  transformer doesn't have enough power to push a fly let alone a Mack truck up a hill. They know enough to be dangerous and they prove this by putting down the good work of others with the work they have done mostly in their heads as they haven't bothered to build anything or if they have built something they lie to themselves about the results as on paper it says it will produce these voltages.

They make claims that confuse others as the claims they make are better than what the inventor Stanley Meyer says he did. Meyer says he put upwards of 20kv to a water fuel capacitor and these people go around telling people they put 50kv to the same type of water fuel capacitor. It's a sad thing to see as most just take their word to be good as gold and never ask them to show proof of what they are claiming.  Their supporters even get mad at me for asking them to show the proof of what they are claiming. But this is a double edge sword as their lies also go to trap them in their made up worlds.

I use to be very open about my work but as time went on I found out that people truly get punished for their acts of kindness in today's world. I'd figure something out and share my results with the group and then someone else would take credit for it. This happened so many times that I have truly lost count as I managed to change the course of the river concerning this technology quite a few times, but you don't know about it as that information is never talked about with my name as someone else took the credit for it. It didn't take me long to see that people truly wanted me out of the way as soon as they thought they have learned enough from me to take the lead away from me.  Did you know that the "Nitrogen Theory" was based on someone misinterpreting my work? Once they felt they knew enough they simply stabbed me in the back and took off with their newly stolen theories that they didn't understand all that well and ran with it.

I think everyone new should stop working on the water fuel capacitor and start with the air gas processor as it is far easier to ionize the atoms that make up the oxygen molecules than it is to get at the atoms that make up the water molecules as the air places a far less load on the transformers due to the fact that the air has a much higher resistance than water does. From this device they can start to learn how this technology actually works and once the have a handle on it can go back to the water fuel capacitor with a basic working knowledge of the technology. I remember trying to get people to take a look at the gas processor on this site and getting the boot for my efforts in trying to do so.
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The Gas Processor is a whole lot easier to understand than the water fuel capacitor and since Air has a dielectric value of one it isn't all that hard to do the math.
Getting tired, I might write some more on the topic a bit later.

New video: Edward Mitchel

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In this photo in order for us to compare notes you must hook up your differential probe to D&E shown in the photo as that is the point that shows you what voltage you are applying to the load which is the water fuel capacitor.

This way we can compare apples to apples. This connection point is most important as it tells you how much voltage you are placing on the plates of the exciter array. If the resonant cavities are built the same or close to the ones in Meyer's 11 resonant cavity cell then according to Meyer each resonant cavity must have 1kv or more in order to work correctly. So, for an 11 cell exciter array it will take 11kv or more at measurement points D&E to get the exciter array working correctly. For a cell with 10 resonant cavities it will take 10kv or more measured at points D&E to get the exciter array to work correctly. However there is a catch to this as the more resonant cavities you remover the higher the Voltage Intensifier circuit's resistance has to be to make up for the loss in resistance and at the same time the chokes must be larger to make up for the increase in capacitance. These are the trends that will allow you to correctly design your exciter arrays. Example if you make an exciter array with only 6 resonant cavities more than likely you will have to make use of some resistance wire as that is a lot of lost of resistance in the form of water going from 11 to 6 resonant cavities and the chokes will have to be very large to make up for the increase in capacitance.

He has no potential voltage it's all positive. That is what I keep trying to point out to him he only has a B+ voltage and no B- voltage. The voltage is no more than 24-50 volts if that. He is so far away from what Meyer is doing he might as well make a new patent.

I pointed out just what Meyer says about needing an equal B+ and B- voltage trying to help him and lead him out of the ditch but he likes being in the ditch getting pats on the back for doing absolutely nothing near to what Meyer was doing. I show him others that are also getting good results since the sight of my work offends him but it seems all of our work offends him be it Don Gable, Outlawstc, Max Miller, Ronnie, Neal, Russ, and anyone else getting similar results as it doesn't matter we all suck in his book.

He ask a question, "Am I on the right way?" and doesn't like the answers he is getting. Reading this tells us we need both a B+ and B- voltage to get the electrical polarization process to take place. And for those that don't like what Meyer named this process tough as he gave his life for this technology so show some respect!

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This video above all others Meyer really gave a lot of good information about this technology away for those who have an ear to hear.

Not sure if the you commented me adriantek i´m no judge i was just telling you how i feel about stan... TGS has his belief and i have mines... i´m just trying to make of this relationship the better it can be..

TGS i will do some scope shots to show you.. but i will ask one more time what is your noise level pulsing the differential probe both leads at 1kv amplitude and maybe at 10khz... just to know if how much noise i get is normal... i get more than 200v on the 2000x noise in that condition for me its not going to help anyway... i did a cage to shield and try get the right measurements.. how about you?

how you put 10kv there and get no interference?

TGS  you talk about using this equipment but its error is essential to know what you did, in the scientific world if you give me a measurement and not the precision of your measurement it is totally not useable... To get  a real measurements you must make tables and include the propagation of the errors and all...

so i ask once again what is your precision? at least noise level? so we know we can compare apples to apples like you say.   

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I already told you I don't have any noise problems with the differential probes that I use as they are working perfectly for me. I don't talk about percent error on forms like these as the people on these forums simply aren't up for that level of science. Most of the time I am within plus or minus 3% with anything that I do and the differential probes I have are all plus or minus 2% so the numbers I show and/or talk about are good.
When it comes to the things I build most of the time I am within plus or minus 0.002% inches. On the exciter array the space gap between the resonant cavities are within plus or minus 0.0005 inches. I take great care to build things or have them made to some very high standards.

In forums like these what is needed most is some form of standardization as we have too many people running about comparing apples to oranges and oranges to melons there is no standardization to be found here. People don't even have the right equipment to view this technology correctly and they tend to also force what they believe onto their experiments instead of listening to what their experiments are trying to teach or show them. Mostly they don't like hooking up the leads to the capacitor as it will show some really low voltages being applied to their water fuel capacitors and they don't want to be made fun of like they like to make fun of everyone else so they cheat and put the probes someplace else where they can see some high voltage. All this cheating really does is hold their work back as they aren't being honest with themselves nor are they being honest with the group as they are in full competition mode and and when someone like me comes around and shows 8.8kv being applied to a water fuel capacitor and if they hook up their probes to the same place are only getting 5-12 volts to their cells they get mad.
They don't ask how did I do it, what am I doing differently than what they are doing, and thus far have been totally rude and demanding towards me and some even racist. I remember Russ finally reaching 1kv and the crowd when mad but then I said to myself, "Wait a minute, I showed over 4kv more than a year before he reached 1kv and all I got was childish behavior, disdain, envy, and a bunch of smack talk for my doing so." I showed scope shots of 8.8kv being applied to the exciter array and again all I get is the worse people have to offer as it seems no one has anything good to say.

Massive and I uncovered the science behind the patents and it was completely ignored in this forum. I don't have much hope for these Open Source forums as they are not about sharing, learning, and comparing each others work but all about competition and ego worship constantly looking for pats on the back, and putting down anyone's work that seems to be getting far better results than they are getting.

Look at all the examples I give of Meyer telling us how the technology works and they just turn around and attack the messenger. I post what the electrical polarization process is in Meyer's own words and they still attack the messenger. I show Meyer himself telling us he is ionizing the atoms that make up the water molecules to break the bonds of the water molecules and again they attack the messenger. Are you seeing a pattern here as I know I sure am. From what I can see they simply do not want this technology despite saying that they do. They aren't willing to perform experiments, get the right tools for the job, or do anything in a standardized way.

What makes me qualified to be a judge they ask?, and the answer is "experience" as I have been there and done that. Right away I got the right tools for the job so that I could see just what was being applied to the water fuel capacitor. I didn't argue with the tools but just used them so I could observe the experiments and ask questions on what I was observing in real time. I set up a laboratory note book so that I could write what I was observing down and ask and answer questions about those notes of my observations. I used engineering principles when designing things so that I could improve things if I found a problem(s) that warranted a total redesign. I have a lot of experience with this technology and finally I have the science behind the technology.
Was that just a reasonable amount in the scientific method or did that number just leak out of your mouth.....  PROVE IT..... please :)

For right now the goal is to reach the benchmark Meyer set for us in the patents of reaching 1kv or more per resonant cavity to get the Electrical Polarization Process running correctly. Thus far I seem to be the only one getting close to actually reaching this number and if successful I will be able to say if Meyer was telling the truth or not from a experimental point of view.

What all of you fail to realize is I don't have anyone to compare notes with right now as I don't know of anyone getting voltages to their cells this high or if anyone even has the same goal of reaching this benchmark Meyer talks about in the patents. As for proving anything to you, why as I showed you mines and you have failed to show a single thing, am I correct?

Well, I feel like talking to Dave right now so I bid you all farewell and a pleasant good night.
I don't get it....

Since when are you the judge of everyone else's work Ed?

Everyone here is following their own path of learning and experimentation.

There's more people doing much more work that aren't on any forums than those in the forums.

Do you really think if you post the first working model you'll get any credit for it?
Why has this become a competition? What's the deal?

People are just posting and sharing what they are learning and have done. Then you come in and tell everyone they are wrong and your 'the only one' who knows how it works!

Do you see why you don't have many friends on the forums?

Read earlier post so you can get up to speed on the topic as you jumping in the middle isn't working for you as you are taking things out of context.
Oh boy, here we go again.

TGS (Ed) trying to mark his territory!
Do you know why science has
setup things the way they have? It's to keep people like you and Stan out.
How would you feel in your profession if some random person came up to you
and told you that your wrong, then used terminology that is not only incorrect, it's laughable.
Would you believe him. You've got a personality like sand paper chill out man. Your
not going to win the grand prize!

OMG, OMFG!


Looks like your correct as it seems Ronnie and team are going to be the first to get a working model but only time will tell.

As for the science behind the technology? I understand what must be done now by way of trail and error making use of the scientific method. It took a long time to figure this technology out but at least I know understand just how Stanley A. Meyer did it  :)

If at any point you notice that I did not give some information it means I wont okay X-Blade?

I'll keep checking back from time to time to see if any one post a video showing more that 1 LPM of gas production using Stanley Meyer's technology as I see nothing but a lot of claims here with no video or photographic proof. People running around saying that they have put 10kv or more to their water fuel capacitors but no photos of the waveform showing the proof of claims of the event. See in this photo the differential probe leads hooked up directly to the exciter array? As that is how I have the setup connected and if you wish to compare apples to apples then you too must also have it hooked up in the very same spot. I am getting the high voltage to the target just as I have shown but I don't see anyone else showing the same results.

But now with all these latest comment you can clearly see this site is one of Competition!

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You all just summed up what is total wrong with Open Source sites as it all about competition as none of you are willing to learn a thing when you see someone doing something you yourselves can not do.

Lets look at just what it takes to get the Electrical Polarization Process working according to Stanley Meyer. Meyer states that it takes 1kv or more per resonant cavity to get the process started. Now if you have an exciter array with 11 resonant cavities wired in series that is going to take 11kv or more to get it to work correctly and if you have one with 10 resonant cavities wired in series it's going to take 10kv or more to get it to work correctly. With a show of hands tell me which of you has ever gotten close to placing voltages this high on your exciter arrays.

I show voltages that are getting close to this benchmark voltage Meyer says is what it takes to get the Electrical Polarization Process stated but since these Open Source forums are all about competition no one ask just how the heck did I do that but instead get mad at me for getting close to the benchmark voltage Meyer has set for us to reach. Some even resort to lying about their work to make it appear they are getting higher voltages than me not understanding that their lies are over the benchmark voltage Meyer gave for us to reach but there setups aren't working correctly. These lies put them in a difficult position in the either they are lying to us or Stanley A. Meyer is lying to us and if it is the ladder then why the hell are we following his work?!!

You talk about that video as if I ran the experiment yesterday but it was ran many years ago using the 8xa circuit and the kicker is your work can't surpass those results and again you get mad for someone calling you out like this instead of asking questions of just what it was did I do to get this 1LPM of gas production using an 8xa circuit with pure distilled water.  Yeah, it's only a little more than 1LPM but none of you have surpass this as of yet, not Max, not Russ, not anyone other than someone calling himself spaceman. But you like to rag on people as somehow it makes you feel good about yourselves but never show your work in a presentable manor. Why is that? What are you afraid of?

The bigger question is why isn't Open Source working what is wrong with it's view on getting this technology up and running and out to the masses? The answer to this question can be seen anywhere my work gets posted as instead of asking question these type of forums move to rag on you instead of trying to advance their work. They only care for getting pats on the back when they think they have done something right and get really upset when someone shows them Meyer's own words that makes what they are showing us to be incorrect. They ask, "am I on the right way?" and when they get an honest answer that tells them they are not they get all bent out of shape about it instead of asking how can they correct their work so that it matches up with what Stanley Meyer talks about in his lecture videos. Open Source doesn't work as it got taken over by a bunch of Blind Leaders who can care less about the truth as long as they can get some pats on the back from their blind followers.

But again I ask you to show me anyone else working on this technology that is getting more than 1 LPM? Sure that is crappy gas production but to the best of my knowledge not many has reached this level of gas production with their work on Stanley A. Meyer's technology. Since this is a competition based site and not a learning based site someone please show me gas production greater than that old 8xa circuit video of mines. Surely after what was just said here you can show your work doing a whole lot better than this, correct? Common show your work or is a waveform that is incorrect the best you all have to show for your work?

But since I know you are really hear to rag and not to learn here is another video showing even more gas production as I started to learn how to actually get high voltage to my water fuel capacitor. My learning at this point was below basic concerning this technology but by making use of the scientific method I was able to learn from my early work and keep increasing the voltage being applied to the water fuel capacitor to over 9kv now. Oh, almost forgot, since you like amp load readings at 9kv the amps flowing through the water fuel capacitor are only 0.6mA.

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I know this waveform has both a B- and a B+ voltage and looks more like this one  below than yours does. The differential probe is suppose to be hooked up directly to the water fuel capacitor when you take your readings but I don't think you have a differential probe do you? Perhaps you should start a crowdfund like the other guy did so you too can get one as without it you have no idea what you are getting to your cell as you must have the right tools for the task at hand as that is just the way it goes and there is no getting around it.

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