its almost Christmas... Unles you are moslims, then you should know what the christmas thoughts are?
Hohoho
Here's a Christmas thought for you. Jesus told Pontus Pilate his purpose was to bear witness to the truth. So why does the world dishonor him by propogating lies about a fat man flying on a sleigh delivering gifts supposedly made by elves living at the North Pole to the children of the world?
I'm a Christan btw, but from a Christian religion that does not celebrate Christmas as there is no scriptural foundation or support for doing so. It's not even the actual birth date of Jesus. There is no truth in it.
You got me there. But even if you dont believe in the fatman or if Jesus was born on those dates, you can agree that the, sadly temporary, thoughts of doing good and being nice , is a good one. We all should apply to that the whole year, from my point of view
Here a schematic based in the dudes youtube film. It is clear to me that he contradicts himself. He says that he only used BEMF pulses, but in this schematic he also uses EMF. Go have a look.
What i ment was that i think to understand that when we discharge a watercell, i removes free electrons from the blochwall and so on.... So more current and voltage out then in.....
Like 10 years ago, somebody who was very good in this Meyer technology said: Steve, you need to go higher in voltage when you pulse a coil. More then 100v. He also said that the system would create electricity and that the hho gas was more like a by product....
Now we are trying to setup a bemf system with an eec circuit, i more and more understand it.
I use the Ion Generator from Oatley Electronics (Australia) to Negatively Charge the intake Air.
How the Covalent OFF Switch works!
Radiant Energy is basically Back-EMF & the purpose of the 8XA Tesla Choke is to dampen the Back-EMF Im-Pulses from detonating (Exploding) the Water. Meyer explains that the High Voltage Field induces ‘Electron Movement’ within the Water Molecules/Atoms causing the Water to Split. In 2005 Naohiro Shimuzu discovered that ultra-short pulses with a width of 300ns has the ability to Split Water. The dominant theory is that, of a Bloch Wall being a pure Potential Field that exists at the centre of the Electrodes that effects the Covalent Bond Electrons (Consumed by a Light Bulb) & this causes the Water to breakdown into HHO Gases.
All you do is you take Water & you expose it to Radiant Energy (Back EMF Im-Pulses) & you get FREE Electricity by the Water Fuel Cell Capacitor acting as a Converter compressing this Radiant Energy into Amperage during the ‘Short Circuits’ & a by-product of this process is FREE HHO Gases.
Basically if NO Electrons are entering from the Cathode, then the Electrons are then ‘RIPPED’ from the Water to fill the Holes in the Anode & as you pull Covalent Bond Electrons from the Water, the Water Molecules will Break Down into HHO Gases. First you’ll have an Ionisation when Water loses one Electron & then you’ll get a Dis-Association when they lose two Electrons. All the Electrons are built up & then they’re drawn off from the Circuit in what is known as the ‘Electron Extraction Circuit’ & this Energy is powering a Light Bulb & an optional Battery Array.
So you get FREE DC Current off the Water Fuel Cell in direct proportion to the amount of HHO Gases that is produced. You could have a Water Fuel Cell & the Current that comes off this Charges a Battery Array & the Batteries could be connected to an Inverter that then Powers an entire House. Allot of people have already used these extracted Electrons from Water to power Motors & Fans.
Firstly Water is an Un-Limited supply of Covalent Bond Electrons & then Secondly as a by-product of this ‘Electron Extraction’ FREE HHO Gases are produced. The decomposition of Matter is really about the Decomposition of ‘Creation’ & then using these extracted Covalent Bond Electrons as a Power Source. The significance of this is ‘Mind Blowing’. A Tesla application of this Technology was called the Cathode Ray Propulsion which decomposes Matter in the direction of Travel. I’d read about the theoretical aspects of this back in the early 90’s which just seemed too Fantastic to believe way back then.
"The WFC Circuit is just a Rectifier & Two ‘Stanley Meyer High Voltage Switches’ where one Switch Charges the WFC Gated at LC Resonance with an 8XA Coil & the other Switch ‘Short Circuits’ the WFC & by-passes the 8XA Coil at LC Resonance into an external ‘Light Bulb & Battery Array’ Load as the Electron Extraction Circuit… A Variable Inductor is used for Tuning the Circuit. This is Very SIMPLE & will produce a Minimum of 300% Faraday’s to 1,700% Faraday’s simple Electrolysis at around 0.05 Amps or 1/20th of an Amp… Once this is understood, you can start using Toroids, Ignition Coils or Tesla Coils."
"All you need is the 'Potential and the Frequency'. The Electrons can come from the Power (Enslavement) Grids Neutral, an Earthed Rod in your Back Yard or the Covalent Bonds in Water itself. In Auckland New Zealand and Darwin of Australia people have been using the 'LIVE' Phase connection from the Power Grid and an Earthed Rod as a Neutral to power their Hydrponic Lights for years... In New Zealand a guy in debt to a Motor Cycle Gang gave them A Box that when connected to a 'LIVE' Phase and a separate Earth powered a Warehouse with Electrons from the Earth ...All your interested in is the Potential and Frequency Just look at (Google) 'A Vector Potentials'.? If you have the original Lawton PLL you can hook up to any switch directly from the Diode Light to an optociuple. If you have the original SCR you can hook the Diode Light up to the side connections that you'd normally connect any Frequency Generator to.? So you have your Dave Lawton Pll just remove the Switch and connect three wires that you can then connect to your optocouple. Easy!... you really need to Switch BACK-EMF Im-Pulses and not Hot Electricity from a Variac.? If you understand how to remove the LED and hook it to your SCR then all you do is build two SCR Circuits and instead of using an SCR you pick out a PNP and an NPN so you get an alternation using the same signal. So one Switch Charges the WFC and the other Switch Short Circuits it using a Variac Transformer. The gist of it, is Charging the Water Fuel Cell then Short Circuiting it, the PLL will do this automatically... The reason Faradays Electrolysis gets Hot is because it is the Load, using the Stanley Meyer method the Load is external to the Water Fuel Cell, it still uses Amperage but externalises the Heat/EM Losses component into a Light Bulb... It's like Charging a Battery and it gets Hot because it is the Load while its Charging but, when you discharge the Battery like in a Laptop the Pentium Chip gets Hot because it's the Load and the Laptop Battery remains Cold to touch, so a Stanley Meyer Water Fuel Cell externalises the Load. Once you get this, then you'll get that the most efficient way to charge a Capacitor that stores Charge is to use Back EMF Im-Pulses then you'll see your efficiencies increase! ... It's all about externalising the Heat component then increasing the efficiency of the Cell, my Cells hooked up to a 3.25 KVA generator- if School Girls in Africa can build this SHIT with Junk Parts anyone in the Western World can build this!? ... The simplest way for you to hook it up is, instead of the PLL Switch going to the Cell, you need to remove that Switch. You need to directly Switch your Optocouple so you need to remove that Switch and Solder it up yourself because it is a NEGATIVE Switch. Your just making it hard for yourself not removing the Switch from your PPL Circuit because you need that Positive Signal. Once this is done you'll have Two POSITIVE Switch outputs: 1. The Light Emitting Diode & 2. The Positive Signal that previously Switched the NEGATIVE Switch that you have now removed. SIMPLE! If you built your own SCR Circuit you can easily build another one OK. ... You need a NPN so you can collect the Back EMF Im-Pulses off the NEGATIVE at Switch Closure using Blocking Diodes on the Negative. ... You also need a PNP and what this does is it only Switches ON when the Pin is NEGATIVE so the same signal Switches Two separate Switches. The NPN Charges the Cell with Back EMF Im-Pulses and the PNP Short Circuits the Cell with a Light Bulb on the Positive of the Cell to CONSUME all Amperage from the Water Fuel Cell... Its NOT Rocket Science!?
All you do is remove it and you need the Potentential and the Neutral and you can use the one signal to power two seperate Opto-Couples with one Opto for the NPN which has Diodes off the Negative of a Coil to collect the Back-EMF Im-Pulses that go to the Positive of your Water Fuel Cell and the Negative Side of your Water Fuel Cell is connected to the Positive Side of your Coil... I know this sounds like it doesn't make sense but, the Water Fuel Cell is only being Charged with Back EMF Im-Pulses when the NPN closes. then seperate to this the other Opto is for the PNP which has a Light Bulb on the Positive Side of the Water Fuel Cell then the PNP. SO WHEN THIS IS FED WITH A SQUARE WAVE YOU GET AN ALTERNATING SIGNAL : P, N,P, N, P, N, P ECT. you can even Postulate the OFF NPN's Back-EMF Im-Pulse takes place while the Short Circuit PNP is On and therefore the Light Bulb is powered by the Back EMF Im-Pulse but it can't because theres no Amperage therefore the Amperage can only come from the Water Fuel Cell Capacitor. during its Short Circuit. You'll know when its built right"
it took a while, but here is my schematic on how i think you can explain what the videomaker is doing. I use back emf for charging the WFC, as i have done years ago, so i know it works. In addition, i added the EEC in such a way that the charging of the coil and the discharging of the WFC are in Phase 1. In Phase 2, the WFC gets the BEMF to charge.
I added the lawton pll output from the hef4050b chip pin2. If the mosfet is still on the board then please remove it (62N15P). Pin 2 goes to that mosfet.... BTW, any other squarewave frequency generator will work. It doesnt have to be a PLL Lawton board. Feel free to ask any questions.......
I tried today with a full bridge rectifier, in stead of just 1 diode. I got lots of gas and a lot of volts acros the cell. But, the sparkgap was not triggerd, so i could not see what that would add....
Maybe I know why you are getting the gas only when it sparks .. when it sparks it reduces the impedance and allow current to flow thru the mot coil otherwise the coil holds the current too much ...
How does that work? The primary coil is around 2 ohms.
Another question: If i want to measure the amps at the cell, i must use a dc amp meter, right? Why do i measure 0.01 amps and see a spark on the plug and lots of gas out of the cell? I also have to pulse the input a bit more and i see even more gas..... What is going on here?
As stated, my sparkplug melts....really really hot as hell. So, my test windows is very small. I tried more cells in parallel, but then no gas is produced during sparking. It only works for me with just 1 Meyer tubes set, we all know. If i use a smaller capacitor in serie with the sparkplug of 0.82uF, it doesnt work either.
The only difference with Tinman's setup is the frequency i am using. I ll guess with higher frequencys, it might look a bit different. Still, it is funny to see the cell producing gas when the sparkplug goes firing and doesnt produce gas when the sparkgap is off
Good work, Steve. I tried it with my 12kV NST and I'm also getting bubbles, a significant amount. The cell is a couple of tapered restaurant sauce cups. I have a 5/16" spark gap with a DIY nano Farad cap. 300 W on the primary, but, with the diode, it's perhaps only half the rated value. edit: And I'm using well water.
With this many Watts, I'm wondering about steam?
Thanks, Tek,
I also use my own well water. My sparkplug ran so hot that the tip was melting. I have not measured the consumed amps yet, but the power sucked by the sparkplug must be something. Or it is so hot because of some sort of resonance between the cap and the seconairy It is clear that the load on the secondairy is effecting the primary with the cell ..... At least i have something to put my brains around for the moment.
sorry to maybe go off topic... but actually i´m trying to think the theory first so we dont have to keep doing things wrong... of course is just theory and any part could be wrong however its being so many years thinking about this that it apear to me all glues up well first think i would look is how precise is my frequency from the pll... i remember it had lot of variance so is not a good to go
i think i will need to design the pll to have a very narrow range to get such needed precision....remember 100THZ well this is sort of the precision we need in phase..
nice test Steve... do you have used the same diagram you show on the first page? how is the waveform looking like? its pure water? what is the current going on water?
i have done tests with a spark gap... but only small stream of gas came out at that time we were following those Ronnies ideas.. i think he was kind of on it for real although he didnt help any of us to get there hopefully i took the time to understand what they teach me and i´m thankful for them to have share some with me that lead me to get some conclusions...
Here my first effort to replicate the tinman power setup with sparkgap. My measurement was done on a very simple way with a multimeter. Later i will install my scopes. The setup is simple. 1 piece 230v MOT 1 variac 1 capacitor 1 uF 1 sparkplug
The frequency is net related and i have put 1 diode in serie with the MOT and watercell. Pulsed dc into the cell. The multimeter measures 0.53 volts acros the cell when the variac is hitting 250v into the primary coil and cell. Again, the voltage over the cell is very very low. No gas is produced. As soon as i put the sparkplug and capacitor in place, i get sparks on the plug. Suddenly gas is produced! Voltage over the cell is 0.83v..........
