massive

thats the gear stick and transmission we re looking at , yes ?  then its driving a large generator closest to the camera ?
old cars had down draft carb / manifold which explains why his hand is on top of engine .
theres the film footge of him driving a car around texas also , circa 1935 or so .

how current this info is ?


http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Pamela-Horvath/1754093333

try the white pages
andrew H or stephen H or star scientific ?

https://www.numberway.com/au/

if anyones gonna go through the patent , list or diagram (3 different things)
time constant = R1 x C2 ,    2.7k ohm x .1uf  , freq is calculated from that

Ive made push pull transformers before and nothing like that diagram.
R9 is 5watt and R10 is 1 watt , these are for the transistor bases !

Z coil is centre tapped and secondary coil is centre tapped , thing is line 29 and 33 are negative earth , D1 and D2 are reverse , they can only conduct is the centre tap line 31 is negative in comparison to line 33 ... but SCR is connected to line 29 , which is negative also .
SCR anode is connected to the centre tap ?  theres no connection to the positive rail for the SCR

the winding ratio isnt 18:1 , the Tr2 doesnt have a rectifier , cathode 13 is definitely negative earth but that doesnt count as a rectifier

has anyone else looked over the circuit diagram ?

   

Has any one predicted or read what Faraday out put of Stans cell was?   either bench top or his car cell


by definition :
faraday  (fār'ə-dā')   
A measure of electric charge equal to the charge carried by one mole of electrons, about 96,494 coulombs per mole. The faraday is used in measurements of the electricity required to break down a compound by electrolysis


not forgetting the faraday is a quanitity measurement not a person

even if LPM is used , there is charge to get those LPM


.........and NO , Im not suggesting SM used electrolysis .       F = a quanitiy of Q charge

Hi Russel
week or so ago I tried log in as usual and continued to be rejected , gave it days to see if it was a glitch . decided to reset p word .
that worked for a number of days then that p word was rejected .
next step was to see if I could open another account , that only went as far as agreement form .....so back to ionizationx.

I am familiar with banning , I had 20 odd posts on energetic , I dared question the Murakami and bang!!
I joined Rosemary Ainslie formum , I dared ask a question and bang!!    it was my only post .....
so to get closed out of OSE is no surprise to me

I can only scratch my head ask myself "whatd I say?"   

thank you Will

there is no name for the unit of a dielectric constant because there is no UNIT , its a ratio

>>> sebosfato has already pointed it out , post #3 , there is no argument  <<<

why is it included in calculations in the tech brief thread on open source forum ?   
a dimensionless figure does not fit in the formulas they are using

one of the posts on that thread , he said "find one that fits" (formula) , if thats the case then ALOT of the formulas need a Refit !

I dont even know who Ron is , or Russell  , its their site

I lost access to the forum , I can only assume some one got upset that the question of D constant was raised
I saw some one else questioned D constant also .... wonder if they also got shut out

good stuff , and still there are no units


the tech brief thread on open source energy forum has the D constant mingled in an assortment of calculations , it is dimensionless.
it can not be added , multiplied , subtracted or divided by other units of measurement
 

in the NZ video Stan said the patent office said - "why hasnt anyone thought of this before?"

if that is true then Anderson ,puharich and Horvath didnt use amp restriction , if not amp restriction then there is something else that stan did , that they didnt do

but SM , Horvath , Puharich  and Anderson have fairly close related technique , at least it appears to be the same ball park .
or even at least HV technology which separates them from the other inventors .

Horvath patent refers to electrolysis yet there is no electrolysis cell in the diagram , theres a transformer ,there isnt even a diode .   
Puharich patent drawing has isolation transformer with no diode either , the sec circuit is earthed through Resonance Sensing Resistor.
Anderson is supposedly in a class of his own with radiation , but then he was called the Ion King not the Radiation King.
SM ,tech boils down to  , quote : "restrict amps to allow voltage to take over"

IF SM tech is related to Horvath ,Puharich , Anderson , then did they restrict amps ?

puharich has 2 chokes , 1 is connected to earth
horvath has no chokes mentioned
anderson ....God knows what

IF SM tech is NOT related to Horvath , Puharich , Anderson , then theres 1 , 2 or 3 more avenues unexplored

all 4 are definitely HV approaches as mentioned in the patents

IF SM is the only 1 using restricted amps then what is the other option ?   
obviously that option worked out , at the very least 3  times , succesfully for 3 men who will forever be connected to Hydrogen


PS ;  my posts have been deleted , as shown in previous post , the lot gets wiped , NOT by me!!

theres also Roger Billings 1965  = http://rogerbillings-hydrogen.blogspot.co.nz/ 

but SM , Horvath , Puharich  and Anderson have fairly close related technique , at least it appears to be the same ball park .
or even at least HV technology which separates them from the other inventors .

Horvath patent refers to electrolysis yet there is no electrolysis cell in the diagram , theres a transformer ,there isnt even a diode .   
Puharich patent drawing has isolation transformer with no diode either , the sec circuit is earthed through Resonance Sensing Resistor.
Anderson is supposedly in a class of his own with radiation , but then he was called the Ion King not the Radiation King.
SM ,tech boils down to  , quote : "restrict amps to allow voltage to take over"

IF SM tech is related to Horvath ,Puharich , Anderson , then did they restrict amps ?

puharich has 2 chokes , 1 is connected to earth
horvath has no chokes mentioned
anderson ....god knows what

IF SM tech is NOT related to Horvath , Puharich , Anderson , then theres 1 , 2 or 3 more avenues unexplored

all 4 are definitely HV approaches as mentioned in the patents

IF SM is the only 1 using restricted amps then what is the other option ?   
obviously that option worked out , at the very least 3 times , succesfully for 3 men who will forever be connected to Hydrogen

 




 

I have never read of anyone replicating ,  attempting to or even indepth discussion on these inventors , they have been by passed .

alot of focus has been put on Stan Meyer , is his set up seen as simpler ?

are Puharich , Horvath , Anderson seen as simpler , harder or OBSOLETE ?   (and not worth the effort)

water is still the same , the game hasnt changed , the only difference is time wins and the inventor becomes obsolete

SM is equally dead as Puharich and Anderson , their inbox is empty

I have read the patents of Horvath and Puharich , typical of patents being empty of real world information
I have searched different forums  , very bare on the subject

surely anyone looking at those cells has to admit , they are quality items 

EV will take over by design and investment control

steam trains are seen as dinosaurs yet nuclear power is a steam generator , no difference just alot more dangerous

EV will take away the level of freedom that a clattery ol IC engine has .   moon shiners made their own fuel , on that basis , who cares about efficieny and heat loss ?    free fuel = free efficiency = free heat loss
EV cannot equal that , imagine the control circuits , charging circuits etc , car electrical systems today are a night mare (gold mine for service maintainance)

the older the car the better

the history of Chrysler goes back to the electric car co , when EV out numbered IC cars in the late 1800s
over 100 yrs later the very same players are in control of the future.
not forgetting , there was also steam cars

curse electric cars , I grew up on mad max and battle truck , thats more my cuppa tea 

  People with EV's will be tied to the grid, paying far more for their transportation than will be needed with the alternative.

The electric world will be more restrictive than ever because of environmental laws .  here in NZ they are phasing out open fire places , so people have to have heat pumps or GAS !


Once upon a time man discovered fire .......... one day in the not too distant future, man will do time for lighting one .

so , one day IC engine most definitely WILL be phased out and it will be out lawed

any H2 inventions that do work had better be brought forward because sitting on it  wont have any pay off

Had another read on O.U.R , a few cries for Les to show evidence of a motor running on gas .
back in 1998 there was a VHS video of Les series cell rumbling away , he had it hooked up to a generator which by memory ran by a needle and valve .  I cant remember all the details all that mattered to me was that the video was showing a motor running on gas.
why Les hasnt mentioned that video I dont know , maybe film was owned by Barry Hilton or Ian hacon

certainly does sound like Anderson = "the ion king"  . Horvath patent also mentions deuterium , theres no saying what his invention looked like and the patent drawings dont represent much. Its labeled electrolysis but there isnt DC at the plates!

looking at time line ,1931 Harold Urey discovers Neutron and heavy water. 1952 H bomb , lithium bombarded neutrons = tritium and deuterium = thermo nuclear.  Anderson was well active inventing from the 1930s.

 Zawodny, “But if this played out in the most optimal way, and this replaced all forms of energy generation, you’re talking about $6 trillion or more per year of market,” he says. “If this is real, the impact is so huge and the applications to our current problems and the ability to solve them quickly are so obvious that we cannot not do this.”

the eye is always on the ball $

try search for a SITh , they arent available any where

I reakon its safe to say every person on this site has pulsed directly across water and probably most of the folk who only read.

what I forgot to mention is the switched reluctance of the core of the coil , ferromagnetic material of any hydrogen based research is RARELY even mentioned yet it is the basis of adams motor , harold aspden motor , jones motor and quite likely stan meyers table top alternator , all relative to the air gap.

ohms equivalence emf = i x r  , mmf = flux x reluctance
an ideal switch has no R when on , no i when off

simply switching a transistor of any type , on and off is random , that SITh is triggered by some thing and timed relative to the core material

some people will c r i n g e reading the title......

http://overunity.com/14814/overunity-electrolysis-31-times-more-effective-gas-production-than-with-dc/


Stefan started the thread and then let it rip . "31 x more effective" is based on the info in the article/paper by the Japanese researchers

Les Banki rolled up and designed a straight forward circuit for people to use to do their own research into nano pulse .

He calculated "Only 8 times faraday" based on the info provided in the articla/paper by the japanese researches.

soon enough , Les Banki series cell design   (totally different subject)   was brought up as a subject by other posters , clouding the actual thread subject. NANO PULSE ELECTROLYSIS

He then left to go to O.U.R ... where they had a go at him there!!

no where did Les Banki say it put out 8 times faraday , the circuit he put up was for research simply because the article has NO circuit available

The SITh static induction thyristor is a normally ON device and it requires a circuit to switch it OFF , so its functioning in reverse of a normal device.

EG; RS1600PA40T1  ,part number .   these things are out there some where but they dont seem to be available at the moment.....

A reed switch is a normally ON component , which got me thinking of the Ford Model T coil which functions as a solenoid opening the reed switch , the mag field pulls the reed open , causing the field to collapse ..... cycle repeats.

http://www.mtfca.com/coils/Coils.htm

IES inductive energy storage , the circuit in the japanese article is representitive only , it shows a thyristor with the gate triggered by a diode , which reprents a negative signal to switch the thyristor OFF!

The other thing which I havent seen before is intentional use of a flyback transformer / swinging choke .

I have never seen a SITh before but it is interesting device , I would like to substitute it but thats a head scratcher

As for a reed switch , it requires a magnetic pole to function
A SITh .....?  combined with a FBT ....which does NOT have a magnetic pole , it can only have an air gap which is a mag pole ,but is burried under the windings

so how a SITh inter acts is a mystery to me at the moment.
looking at the diagram in the japanese article it appears the SITh is self triggered by the FBT it is switching , which is clever . does the FBT reach saturation before switching or is it triggered by an isolated search coil ?  I dont know

I play around with TV FBT to the point of destruction for a bit of fun, the concept of a FBT function is top notch , there is no winding ratio on a FBT , it is energy transfer from primary circuit to secondary circuit , the quiker the Pri is switched the higher the volts on the Sec. The out put is already DC , they have diodes built into them , AC coils are hard to find usually old B/W tv.

So from that view I see it interesting that the japanese have a FBT

What the actual japanese researchers true circuit diagram looks like would be interesting .

Les Banki , final circuit version 8 is straight forward and is a good design , schmitt 4584 , PLL 4046 , 4420 driver, 1500v diodes and mosfet , hyperfast components
 
Les theory of 1:1 ratio is also interesting , usually filters on computers ,stereos etc use 1:1 . As a FBT it will still put out HV spikes

Also SITh are used in pulse power , so where the hell do they get theirs?  it might be industrial only or military

anyway if anyone hasnt seen the japanese article its in the link

 
Aarons theory is driven by nitrogen theory . I put forward the question , "was nitrogen the basis of Horvath , Puharich and other hydrogen inventions ?"     bang I got banned!!

he sells a book which is based on nothing , he has 2 sites where no one dares question Aarons nitrogen theory and in fact, people dont seem to post at all on "water for fuel"
http://www.energeticforum.com/water-fuel/

http://www.energyscienceforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=47

I would encourage anyone to go on those forums and put forward theories opposed to Aarons and question his theory aswell as his MODEL  , good luck you will find out

Ps: sorry for off topic