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Stan’s Legacy

jim miller

61 posts · 6 more in threads this archive does not carry · writing between Jan 2011 and Jan 2022

An identity on IonizationX as it was harvested, not an account on this site. Nobody here has claimed it, and nothing connects it to a person by name.

the basic diagram was posted here at ionizationx years ago.....

Don't feel bad, the internet and the number of alternative energy sites is so large that
it's impossible for anyone to view the thousands of images ,videos, patents
and pages of documents and records at the L3 storage unit and foreign arkives

Listen to Ted Loder and Steven Greer's video on the Puja network about the
task facing TOP in terms of cataloging and and taking inventory

When Dynodon took pictures their was a big cabinet and totes full of papers
Alas I think a lot has been lost, discarded or put in wooden boxes in some obscure
document warehouse somewhere....

I'm sure there's more out there.....And I think that eventually the technology
will be rediscovered and be put to use
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Another possibility
 
There is a short video segment at the end of the long dune buggy video (9 minute version)
where Charlie and Stan Graumlich  are assisting the tightening down the top of the reaction chamber with the comment "That'll about do it" prior to the run down the road.  Were they puting in a critical part or just checking prior to buggy run that all the seals were tight?
 
 
 

Steve I got A ? for the GEET

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Inventions are often called hoaxes or frauds when it cannot be explained by conventional science.
Early videos by WTVN and eyewitness testimony  in WFC Bulletin 2 suggest that the earliest version of the dune buggy could  and did run for short distances. The engine was primed with a small amount of gasoline to get it started.

Steve I got A ? for the GEET

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hydrocars has a history of being a careful and knowledgeable experimenter so his views should be given more weight in this matter

it runs on water!

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"It runs on water" hopefully will become a reality, not a slogan

waterfuelcell.org

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what happened to waterfuelcell.org across the pond? cant find their site lately?

Help with this picture please

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Correct, its a clip from a video and I have tried with various filters, sharpening, gamma modification
to bring out details but without much luck. You may want to compare it to the "1989 Knapkin Image"
seen at Jeff Rense site, another rough drawing,   maybe something will match up or give a clue

ocr came up with a few words off that diagram.................


Stan Meyer history?

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The side scanning radar and Starwars work would have been classified projects by the USAF
The banking validation work for Battelle would have fallen under an NKA with the institute

A story exists that Stan was working up on the Korean DMZ  and did not salute an officer  on base when
Questioned about not wearing name tags or shoulder patches... That might be  the case if Stan was working on a classified assignment...

Online accessible paperwork is sorely lacking in the 1960-1980 time period....









Help Needed.

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I think I would contract the manufacturer of the batteries and obtain the discharge specifications for the brand of battery used    (something like car batteries rating  ampere hours)

perhaps get so idea of battery sizing from Tesla 3  electric vehicles??

304 stanless steel

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Steve has a good point that dissolved impurities can contribute to discoloration. Stan even says
this in  the Environmental Tape The well water in southern Ohio
often has a high iron content but if  you were to run a demo unit with  for first time with distilled
water you still get discoloration form the slight corrosion of the  non stainless bolts that  Stan used as well
as corrosion if the stainless. The demo units I made used all stainless bolts or nylon (r) bolts, and when operated
 with water they still became discolored but more so the longer and more times one operated the unit
without changing the waiter but just replenishing the water to  keep the water level above the top of
the stainless tubes

304 stanless steel

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Back in 2007 i used 304 stainless in the Vertical Cluster Array units

304 stanless steel

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Stainless steel comes in a wide variety of types and  have a number designation that refers to the amount of other metals and carbon that are added to the iron when making the alloy.  Types 304 and 316 are common types found in the retail market. One thing to remember is that even within the same number classification,  there can be subgroups  such as 304L and 316L which manifest different corrosion characteristics due to differences in crystalline structure.
For example the 304L and 316L types are less susceptible to intragranular corrosion.
 
Also there are are differences in magnetic properties.  Type 304 is not magnetic but type  440 is

While Stanley Meyer makes much of the very low corrosion rate in the various lectures and his publications, (" They'll last for 10,000 years"),  the appearance of a brownish coloration 
of the water is likely due to the oxidation of the free iron atoms being leached from the  vertical exciter tubes in his vertical cluster array model.  Additionally
the construction of that cell included non stainless bolts that rusted.   The repeated or continued use would concentrate impurities or other
contaminants that remained in the water contained in the Perspex (r) tube as the water was being was being converted to HHO gas. This would be analogous to concentrating
sugar in the preparation of maple syrup.  (Although the method of  removal of water is different, boiling versus the dissociation  of water by a novel means)
Visual inspection of several photographs show the discolored water, the rusted bolts, and the difference in the appearance of the surfaces of anode and cathode  due to the different curvature of the inner and outer
 electrodes having a different surface charge density Also the cavitation effect and rising bubbles may be causing a scrubbing action

see attached photos:

1   Rusted bolts on Delrin spacer
2.  Differences in the appearance of the various surfaces of the anode  and cathodes tubes and above the small drilled
     holes
3.  Iron Oxides (rust) suspended in water after operation\
4,  Base of dry Demo Unit showing a clear area caused by smudging of dry particulate matter during handling

In my opinion it's  ok to has some corrosion of the small lattice iron granules on the surface of the stainless tubes as this is
providing a rougher surface similar in concept to sanding flat plates to create cross hatching but on a a much smaller scale
The roughened surface provides a nucleation point for bubble formation just as the conditioned surface is recommended
for gas production the vertical array  tube demonstration units

EPG With Ionized Gas

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I think pickup coils surrounding the copper spiral channels are functioning more like a stator
and that the magnetic slurry and mag-gas is analogous to the rotors moving magnetic field./electrical field.

EPG With Ionized Gas

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to  form the magnetic gas matrix, both the argon and the paramagnetic metals from the transitional series must be in an ionized
state.  The removal of electrons using the electron extraction circuit helps to stabilize the orientation of the paramagnetic
atoms with the argon acting as a neutral spacer in the matrix.  By pressurizing the mag gas the amount of magnetic flux per
unit volume is increased thereby increasing the output obtained with the pickup coils surrounding the copper tubing  channels

link to njce epg site

https://www.nikola-truck.com/epg-electric-particle-generator

in the multi-tier epg, two linear magnetic pumps were used.
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Must watch video! EPG related???

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attached image from a British hyperdrive paper shows the basic principle.

Sea water already has electrolytes in it, But it's not necessary use it to make  electricity from the ZPE units, the submarine's
nuclear power plants generate the power for the ZPE ,process or you can use the use the new solid state high density
lithium ion  batteries to provide required power

Basically it's moving the water through large ducts running the length of the vessel, or least that's how it's done
 in the movies....... ;)

Must watch video! EPG related???

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The Stanley Meyer technology is related to the MangetoHydrodynamicDrive (MHD) technology

"In the Conference Edition of International Independent Test Evaluation Report 1995 p. 128 the following
reference is noted:..

"12.Meyer, Stanley A. Hyperdrive  Memo WFC 455/455DA. Grove City, Ohio 1991 (c) Stanley A Meyer"

The reference is part of the sixth draft of  a document titled  "Water as Fuel" by the Admiral Sir Anthony Griffin
for a meeting in Southampton England

MHD technology was featured in an American film titled "Red October", in which the film
showed a Russian submarine supposedly being propelled by MHD for its quiet stealth capability

Admiral Griffin made at least four trips to Grove City Ohio to visit Stanley Meyer.

Griffin has at least 3 non-classified presentations or papers on the subject, such as Water As Fuel (1993)

Apparently the British authorities felt that Stanley Meyer's work merited serious consideration.
The British film group  INCA also was sent to examine and film some of his technology
Leonard Holihan from the Advanced Energy Research Institute ( London UK) also visited and praised Meyer's work"

New information

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wel there's always new stuff  but this is old
Overunity

When  a solar cell is irradiated with sunlight, we can measure the amount of  watts generated
and  the efficiency.   If we measure the amount of light absorbed, the increase in temperature
the amount of electricity produced etc. ,we can determine its efficiency which is about 20%

When we talk about over unity devices,  a similar comparison may be occurring.
We theorize about the  source of this extra energy but we are not really sure of its origin.
Is the device tuning into the  energy of  neutrinos  or dark matter vibrations, quantum
vibrations or charges, or some other undiscovered source and converting it into electricity.

I think if we imagine the universe  as a box with everything contained within it
by definition  all the energy is equal to the mass and  square of the velocity of its expansion


Overunity

When  a solar cell is irradiated with sunlight, we can measure the amount of  watts generated
and  the efficiency.   If we measure the amount of light absorbed, the increase in temperature
the amount of electricity produced etc. ,we can determine its efficiency which is about 20%

When we talk about over unity devices,  a similar comparison may be occurring.
We theorize about the  source of this extra energy but we are not really sure of its origin.
Is the device tuning into the  energy of  neutrinos  or dark matter vibrations, quantum
vibrations or charges, or some other undiscovered source and converting it into electricity.

I think if we imagine the universe  as a box with everything contained within it
by definition  all the energy is equal to the mass and  square of the velocity of its expansion