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Anyone read the Quantum keys book from Lindemann and Aaron? I heard from a friend a terrible story: They urge you to hook up your mind to theirs every week so they can tap you off of your information in case you have some.....

Well, mind control is what they are after and their employer should be obvious to anyone in here...

Fact is they never presented anything functional in 30+ years, just wasting your time. Aaron once said he "saw" his first Gray engine in -94...... Where and how did that happen??....

Forget them and keep working open source, my advice.

@Radiant

I have a question for you, I have now checked the Puharich patent a bit and I find it hard to understand why he has ceramics all the way up between the cylinders and he just gets gas between the edges on the top?

Have you tried stove clay between the cylinders, do you believe that is something Stan used? Considerring the picture of the ultrasonic resonator in Stan´s GP, what is the material in the resonator? I can easily try the stove clay concept soon, now my pipes are pretty tuned, finally...

Funny this patent. And also he calculates and show us the 120% OU at 300 deg F water temp... It is not even controversial that claim. Furthermore, low efficient cells draw alot of amps increasing temperature and hence efficiency. So why are we bothering so much about efficiency at room temperature? If you make the water stay cold you get no dry steam... Go-rounds and teeters...

A sound wave is pretty much simpler than a HV "wave"...

Anyway, keep doing the injector and VIC, the Piezo will be easy to get when the other stuff is finished.

@Everyone, this is extremely important so that you don´t waste your time and money. I am more than 95% convinced Stan used Piezo bolts and the concept is very easy. Acoustic resonance in the cylinders(inner one included) when the water molecules are polarized is key to phenomenal results. It is just a repeat action from Keely, Puharich etc.

So please go read this thread and consider everything: http://forums.ec.europa.eu/debateeurope/viewtopic.php?t=6103&start=15&sid=f19116ea9b6332136c5df09fbf181743

Then buy trnsducers and attach them to the pipes and see what happens. Calculate the acoustic resonance point and prioritize that one over the electric resonance point. I am sure stuff will happen.

Good series, check all his videos on getting from 1.7 to 0.3 consumption! And still no dry steam used!

You are right and especially the vortices are supposed to move in the same direciton as the pistons.

Great job Steve!

Check out Leo Umila later, I believe that one is a good step after standard GEET.

Looking good, Steve.
 I read recently, that the device would work much better if it were NOT constructed in a horizontal plane. Have you read or heard anything like that ??

  I could do some searching, if that would benefit anyone

  What type fuel you using   Did it start on the Geet device, as well as run on it

Try this, incredible results from what I have heard so far:

That pic I recognize from mr John Keely´s work. Read him, he is perhaps the best experimental physicist that ever existed, also check out keelytech.com - Keely was a giant and www.witts.ws are following in his footsteps with their work on crystals and hf dissonance etc. I believe witts i the best group out there, by far. Hopefully they will get some funding from people and get stronger, Sir Timothy Thrapp has been persecuted for 20 years, simply because he is the best one I believe.

@all: This is INTERESTING: http://forums.ec.europa.eu/debateeurope/viewtopic.php?t=6103&start=15&sid=f19116ea9b6332136c5df09fbf181743



This guy has good ideas, just what I suspected about the crystals since some time. Right on, has to study up on the Piezo stuff now and Meyer obviously cheated many people for a long time but not much longer, the story will break very soon in a year or two... And Kinesis etc, who are you actually??...

And about Ravi the crystalline coating gives the extra boost as suspected.

I suggest all members must give out a personal address and phone number or else they are not allowed as members. We have to keep it clean here from alot of confusing desinfo.

Idea is super simple, put an enormous tension over a steel wire, then cut it with an extremely sharp tool, without the simultaneous tension and tool you can not do it...... The cutting of the water molecule will be made by the sound wave causing denser and thinner regions in the water, where the thin region is many molecules will burst. And the water molecules will be polarized with extreme tension between positive and negative since it is a dipole so yes they will burst.

I believe he used HV and then the sonic resonance frequency between the cylinders can be rather high if he shatters the molecules in the 1-3 mm gap between the cylinders. Problem is how to mount the cylinder so it can shake horisontally with stability, time to study and consult experts, well that will come to us easily in due time.. I have seen bigger mountains than this one.

A Piezo can withstand 2 kV per mm and normally max 3(!) mAmps so if you need to input alot of Watts you need a massive resistance in the coil(SS)........ Low burst freq can be achieved since the crystal self resonates a long time after the last pulse. Thick crystal means low freq so that is why 2 kHz probably is how high you can go if you need lots of input. Later Stan used up to 40 smaller crystals to increase the input and output.


It all adds up phenomenally well. Go shake the inner cylinder. Key must be to get a 1D shake to get maximum efficiency by a standing wave inside for a long time...

Those who don´t know or want to learn about crystals, well you are missing something here - for sure - and I am no MIB......

Here you got the full picture: http://www.kodasplace.com/more/watermotors.html



Now this is pretty darn good news....

Just go get a fat piezo who resists 2 kV and shake the inner cylinder.

Eigenfrequency for the standing waves between the cylinders:


F = (c/2d2)^0.5

Everyone should check this lecture series from Puharich:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oa0bFK6iNI&feature=related


There it is, the 2ndary side transformer identical to Stan´s early circuits, used as a driver for the Piezo circuit of Puharich, Stan really is caught with pants down here.... Note how he explains RESISTANCE is key to regulating the (acoustic) resonance. Tapered cavity is better. Anyway, I believe modified GEET is the best method of ionizing, so I will not dig too deep here yet....

We can all stop debating whether Stan used vibrations or not by now, whether it is Piezo or something else is another matter...

Look at this debate: http://forums.ec.europa.eu/debateeurope/viewtopic.php?p=127696


Similar ideas, this is good stuff.

@Radiant, I said it was "suggested" to have been done like that, I have no knowledge if that was the case. 4th of July just passed...

Anyway, since you seem to be into acoustics, can you please tell me the advantage of tuning inner and outer pipe like an organ pipe and how it is exactly done and what your results were?

The idea must be to get more nodes or am I wrong? I do understand Ravi´s conditioning creates more standing waves since you have a crystalline coating, possibly generating two or three times more gas.

Yes I will do a video, maybe this week if my efficiency tests work well on Tuesday. I will record the tone and show what happens. But I guess many already have done it in here?

@Alan, a Piezo bolt is a threaded circular type of Piezo crystal that is suggested to have been attached in the slits of Meyer´s pipes, ie in the inner top pipe. I am unsure what he used the crystals/ceramics for in his WFC, maybe to shatter the water in the center cylinder. Another idea, why not use more cylinders like 4 or 6 pcs concentrically aligned so you can hit more water volume and forget about the crystals. There are so many ways and things to investigate one does not find sleep anymore.....

How is efficiency affected when one increases the gap between the cylinders? A standing wave between cylinders has a simple equation, I will check it later. Maybe we can increase the number of nodes.  Thanks for the info about how to find the acoustic freq, we will do it later too...

An audible tone is only heard when I use the Delrin holders and tune into a pulsing freq of about 40-50kHz and the signal is increased when any human being comes near the cell and especially if you put your hands around the whole cell!

I tend to see similarities in this circuit to the steam resonator where he uses exactly that kind of switching circuit. Could be again the vibration stuff, I am not sure.

HI!

I have a new 2D model....

This one is by far the best one we have built, the power is a magnitude higher than the other ones and geometry is the reason. This one has three Domus(8 symbol) placed out symmetrically around a circle. That means an oval every 60 degrees. I will try to upload some pics later. Now we will try to merge one triple Domus, one dual Domus and one single Domus into a complete 3D model. I believe
in the three spinning shells you could say... More news next week when finished about that one...

This one has two centripetal force lines and one centrifugal force so the natural balance is acheived where the former dual Domus models had one to one ratio, so the negative(centrifugal) was too big.

Still the cucumbers are growing very very fast...

Dankie, you could always send me a PM...

I have some more news, we have charged incoming plant water for a large cucumber greenhouse. After 10 days the whole energy inside the greenhouse is changed and it seems like the plants have alot more "subjects" than usual and grow better. In 10 days we will know more exactly how much more.

In other news we made a new device including wooden shavings, very promising results and a more subtle energy, less aggressive and gives better taste to water.

Hi, please check this link:

http://www.ethericresearch.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=57&sid=0668017734459ef94ba32b86c3ecfc95

I am in a bit of a hurry, I will post more info when I get back in 2 weeks.