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It's also possible to transmute Hydrogen into Helium.



The big glass tube on the right is a vacuum capacitor.  The black coil around the sealed electrode-less H tube is the output winding.

I discussed this with him in the past, on a private list.  Change in the color indicates presence of He.  He said he could get an output voltage from the properly tuned black coil even without any input, as if the fusion was spontaneous.  But he never would divulge the frequency he uses.

I agree.  The process produces deuterium.  It's interesting that Einstein was so quick to postulate charge clusters; perhaps he had already been thinking about that.  Ken Shoulders uses needle point electrodes, something in common with Herman's setup.  What I'm still wondering is if Sternglass used regular H, or if it was atomic.  Also, was the proton/neutron transmutation the source of the radiolytic x-rays?  Or were there both charge clusters and corona derived x-rays?

Meyer's effect had nothing to do with the e-cat.  That one used a special isotope of Nickle which can convert to Copper.  This isotope does not occur in nature and must be manufactured.  Meyer found that when an Oxygen nucleus experiences an impact in the presence of an electron extraction field, the nucleus itself emits a beta electron.  This causes the Oxygen to decay to the next higher element.  There's no evidence he was using this with the dune buggy.  One drawing of his Injector does show a dielectric ring at the output, perhaps to facilitate a Z-pinch.  However, to use this effect, the Injector spark would need to be aimed across the top of the Piston, rather than AT the Piston.  Meyer may have had some kind of LENR technique, but he wasn't using it inside an engine.  But this doesn't mean it can't be used to produce excess hydroxy gas, for subsequent injection.

That airblower is a tricky subject. If you're blowing Plasmoid, you're going to get voids, because of the surface tension.  Old school has it that, with a scalar Field's penetrating presence, dark energy will form across the voids.  (Like a surface shadow).  So this will add a little extra expansion.

And I was thinking about what he said about his waveform being a cross between a box and a triangle.  What if a square wave ended with a triangle going on up?

I'd like to point out the importance of using a segmented electrode for Meyer's Injector.  This will allow the formation of specific voltage zones along the electrode.  This is especially true when the electrode is tapered, as shown in the first picture.  The voltage increases along the taper, due to the reducing surface area.  And this electrode can be hollow, if it's desired to inject some additional water mist to regulate the burn rate.

Segmented electrodes are also found in Scalar Art, and can be used as an interrupter for static energy.

With the tapered electrode, segmentation only requires dielectric filled slots in the surface.  For Meyer's application, the dielectric - such as high temperature silicone - should be smooth with the surface.  But it's important that the walls of the slots be machined perpendicular to the electrode surface.  And the number of slots should match the number of pulses from the VIC.

The basic electrode can be cut from a large plumb bob, for ease of acquisition.

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Thanks, but I already posted the gist of it at the Introduction board.  And I don't feel like reconstructing and retyping the message which was dumped.  Sorry if I thought it was suppression.  I've seen too much of that already.

Looks like my last post was blocked.

One possible explanation of Meyer's technology is that he developed a system to extract energy from hydrinos, and, perhaps, an oxygen analogy.  We owe him a debt of gratitude for publicizing his technology, and for taking the heat in such a way that a wide spread determination to reclaim his discovery has developed.  On His Day I'll post at least something which may help advance our efforts.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=hydrino&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CDQQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Frvanspaa.freehostia.com%2FHydrinos_explained.html&ei=pC_LUYgnkfGJAq-LgEg&usg=AFQjCNFRllsi_oDEIhtIrF9Bv_e28g8NIw&bvm=bv.48340889,d.cGE 

It's known that the decay of a metastable state is exothermic. Being excited - of an energy above the ground state - it will eventually decay to a more stable state, releasing energy.

A search turned up the following quotes from this link:

http://chemistry.stackexchange.com/q...ring-stability

"Delocalization of π electrons makes a compound stable as the process of delocalization involves loss in internal energy. This is the synopsis of resonance.

"While studying resonance, I observed that one structure possesses charge while in other no charge. But in the final structure, there is, according to the book, partial charge present.

"So even with just 1 electron in a molecular orbital, where electron repulsion doesn't come into play, the longer we make the box (e.g. the longer the delocalization path) the more stable (lower in energy) the electron.

"the oxygen p orbital lone pair at right angles to the ring can overlap with the delocalised p orbital above and below the ring enabling a degree of delocalisation into the ring system so leaving a slight + charge on the oxygen. This in turn will reduce the electron density in the OH bond so weakening it"

So it seems that resonance itself is exothermic.

"In chemistry, delocalized electrons are electrons in a molecule, ion or solid metal that are not associated with a single atom or covalent bond.[1] The term is general and can have slightly different meanings in different fields. In organic chemistry, this refers to resonance in conjugated systems and aromatic compounds. In solid-state physics, this refers to free electrons that facilitate electrical conduction. In quantum chemistry, this refers to molecular orbitals that extend over several adjacent atoms."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delocalized_electron

"Delocalized electrons also exist in the structure of solid metals. Metallic structure consists of aligned positive ions (cations) in a "sea" of delocalized electrons. This means that the electrons are free to move throughout the structure, and gives rise to properties such as conductivity.

"Standard ab initio quantum chemistry methods lead to delocalized orbitals that, in general, extend over an entire molecule and have the symmetry of the molecule."

I've found that the right kind of energy can delocalize electrons, even in a piece of paper. Perhaps in water as well.

Thorium is an element which is mildly radioactive, in that it is a weak beta emitter.  (A beta particle is a high energy electron.)  A common source of this metal is in the form of Tungsten alloy welding electrodes, which are two percent Thorium.  (Not available in all countries.)

As an experiment, I took one of these electrode wires (1/16") and rolled it slowly, to see if this would add to the energy of the emitted electrons.  While looking at it closely, I could sometimes see a really thin, overly jagged tiny yellow spark shooting out a distance equal to around three times the diameter of the rod.  But sometimes a small yellow spot would light up briefly, then go out.  These spots were much larger than the thickness of the little sparks, but there was no visible activity between the rod and the spot, which appeared about as far from the electrode as the length of the alternately appearing sparks.  Therefor, I concluded that the spots were an example of non local energy.  This is a type of energy associated with, but distant from, an electrode, capacitor, ion, or nuclear particle, without a conductive path.
The majority of published research into this energy is related to the field of nuclear physics.  However, I've previously placed a relatively high amount of isolated charge on some paper, using an exotic HV potential.  With more experiments, I fully expect to find out how to place non local energy within a volume of water.  As mentioned, doing so will not require a conductive path.  But the addition of this energy to the water molecules will cause them to expand and become unstable, at some point.  Then, a vibrating HV potential applied to the water will simply shake the molecules apart.  "Instantly".

It's pretty obvious that Stanley Meyer left something out of his patent, "for secrecy".  He says the water molecules act as "micro capacitors", yet no mechanism is shown for charging them.  Perhaps this is an angle which should be investigated.

That's right.  And electrons are traveling through the arc in two different directions.  When the cap reaches a certain charge level, it begins discharging.  This discharge meets the next charging pulse, in opposition.  This is when and if it's operating in resonance.  Adding an 'open circuit' Meyer cell changes the resonance.  But it can still be tuned accordingly.  This can provide a very simple and easy way to build a cell which operates at resonance.  No guessing required.

There's also the binding energy between the water molecules.  This takes the form of cohesion with liquid water.  This cohesion force is released when a droplet explodes and the molecules move away from each other's proximity.  It's claimed that water drop explosions release 200 times more energy than needed to produce dissociation of the liquid's bonds.

The Sound Of Resonance

memo (424) titled Atomic Energy Balance of Water as to the functional parameters associated with Dynamic Voltage Potential Wave-form (600) of Figure (6-3) ... which uses Voltage Pulse Potential of opposite electrical polarity of attraction (RR' - SS' as to RU/RU' - ST/DST') to perform work in the following sequence of events in an instant of time:  Electrical Polarization Process (160) (elongating the water molecule ... changing the time share rate of the covalent electrons ... switching off the covalent bond by attenuating the electromagnetic fields of the electrical stress atoms undergoing molecule separation.  Universal Energy Priming Stage (500) (particle oscillation as an energy generator by deflecting atomic particles under changing electrical stress)  Liquid to Gas Ionization Stage (230) (ejecting electrons from the atomic structure under divergent electrical stress); and Thermal Gas Triggering Stage (E9d) (gas igniting the electrically stress combustible gas atoms farthest from the state of electrical equilibrium) ... triggering Hydrogen Fracturing Process (90) (subcritical state combustible gases being spark-ignited under Electrical Resonance of Stress).

So what he does is elongate the molecules, then shake them with a Deflection Field.  (Ding!  He has a Deflection Field.)

He also had a Stress Field provided by energy pulses having the proper frequency composition.

He injects sub critical water into the spark plug.

He keeps talking about Resonance and that associates with the Stress Field, which is present in the spark plug/Injector.

In the Injector, The Resonance is the sound a super critical water droplet makes when it detonates, due to a change in the Latent Heat to Temperature ratio when the fuel gas is ignited, and a conversion of the Surface Tension throughout.  This rather loud sound is remarkably similar to a rattle snake, faster, with a higher pitch, the same duty cycle, and a shortened envelope. (High speed cat scattering).

Even better, the Stress Field could also carry a signal which matches the endwise chime of the length-adjusted electrode tube.

I've made two attempts in the past three days to build a static generator.  Both were defeated by defective components.  Rather than wait for new parts to come in the mail, I'm considering a third design.

In the New Zealand video, Stan mentions that when he met with high ranking Officers from the Air Force he advised them of the possibility that a fighter jet could fly down just above the ocean's surface and scoop up salt water, thereby giving the jet an "unlimited range".

Has anyone given any thought as to how he could use salt water in his system?  People in the government and military apparently thought he was on to something, or he wouldn't have been given so many meetings.  It seems to me that everyone is focusing on the basic electrolysis part of Meyer's system, without considering his more advanced techniques.

yes man this is very nice winding style,.. i remember there is a name for it but i just cant remember the name...

its used to icrease the distributed capacitance allowing more equally distributed voltage in high voltage transformers..

also interlayer can be used... i posted something about it a while ago... in my project page

Yes, this goes back a long way.  Someone taught me the 'skill in the art' part of the loop back, in 1962 - less than 20 years after Tesla's passing.  Tesla may have published it somewhere; if not, many of his non published things are still circulating in the 'underground' community.  The advantage of an interlayer is a big increase in the coil's Q.  But the added capacitance changes the resonance.  The length of each layer's wire needs to be a quarter wavelength, although square wave pulsing allows use of a sub harmonic.

in clothing shops they have those plastic tags on for shop lifting security . not long ago I opened one and it has a single flat coil like that and a capacitor soldered on , so maybe it acts as a tank ciruit frequency when it goes through the door monitor ... and no I wasnt shop lifting but interesting to see inside

I looked inside one of those too, out of curiosity.  It isn't possible to make two of those little tank circuits exactly the same.  Hence, each will look different to the scanner.

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When XL=Xc ...

Z is  ZERO, no reactance.

How remarkable.  Does this mean a choke will pass current at its resonant frequency?  What did I just say?

Beam me up, Scottie ...

retrofit H2 system is only compatable with past and present tech , Im sure they are quite comfortable sacrificing the internal combustion engine itself in order to bring in the electric world...

from my point of view , everyone working on H2 tech have limited time line no matter what technique is used.

We should still keep in mind that Meyer's system was Over Unity, due to the Cold Fusion aspect - a process which happened inside his ICE.  This aspect can't be duplicated by an electric motor, even with an electrolysis fed fuel cell.  People with EV's will be tied to the grid, paying far more for their transportation than will be needed with the alternative.

Ed, I got banned from the Heretical Builder's forum for publicly complaining about a lack of moderation of your verbal abuse.  Did you get banned for what you were doing back then?  These forums will always treat certain people differently, even unfairly.  That's part of the suppression mechanism.  If we start pointing fingers, then YOU are part of that mechanism too.  Now you'll dump on me some more, following me from one forum to the next.

edit:  The moral being, "Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone".

In this forum it is clear that what I have to say, even though it is experiment based, is unwanted here. The last time I was posting I was attacked just for being black and not only did the person(s) who did it not get punished by I was banned for being attacked. If that seems backwards it's because it is. The reason for these attacks is quite clear, in the experiments I have shown no one is able to duplicate the results I am getting so it would seem that jealousy made it's way into the hearts of the masses here. Putting that aside for the moment what I have shown everyone is my actual experimental data and pictures to go along with it. Yes, I have reached 9.3-4kv being applied to the plates of the exciter array but this falls short of the needed 10-20kv as stated by Meyer in his patents for the working voltages of the exciter array. I ran into problems that all of you are going to run into once you reach these voltage levels. Unfortunately this is where most of you will be left behind as the solution to the problem is a costly one and most if not all of you simply can't afford the solution.

So, where does this leave us? Well, to be honest it leaves all of you never to be able to follow what I have shown as it's simply outside of your abilities to afford now meaning your out of the game. With this technology the scientific method is a must as there are simply too many unknowns that must be figured out as trying to sit down reasoning this out simply isn't going to work as you need hands on experiments performed so you can carefully observe and learn from the results. Making use of the scientific method will force you to ask the right questions just as long as you are honest with yourself and pay attention to eye witness accounts of Meyer's technology in action as what they saw you will need to be seeing with your experiments. If the water is getting warm stop and figure out what you are doing wrong. If you are not getting high voltages again stop and figure out what you are doing wrong. Note, not until you figure out how to get the voltages up and above 10kv can or should you be looking for jaw dropping gas production.  When you start getting gas production you must take MMW numbers to make sure it is not Dr. Faraday style electrolysis. Taking careful temperature readings will confirm that as well for normal electrolysis will heat up the water at a predictable rate as well as produce gases at a predictable rate.

Now I take you to a bible scripture that I find relevant to this technology as it goes to those that put their pride and ego above the needs of the many. And for those of you that don't like the bible in this technology take it up with Stanley A. Meyer as he quoted Job 38:22-23 to explain this this technology and it's place in our future. Mathew 15:14 "Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch" Beware of these Blind Leaders that put pride and ego above all else making themselves look better than they actually are by putting forth lies in the place of real provable work. Some of them are paid to be here to make sure this technology never see's the light of day others are just puffed up full of pride and ego to the point nothing else matters to them other than their need to appear better than everyone else. The one thing you will notice with these people is the lack of any experimental data to back up what they are saying or showing. They will make claims that they are getting much higher voltages to their cells than Meyer gives us are to be the working voltages for the exciter arrays but not have jaw dropping gas production to go along with it. They will show their setups producing gases but refuse to give anyone any MMW numbers so that their work can be properly evaluated. And most of the time they will refuse to do any timed temperature test to prove that they are getting the same effects as told to us by the eye witness accounts of Stanley Meyer's work in action given to us in the Arthur C. Clarke video stating that it will run for a half hour and the temperature never goes up.

You all have to start holding people accountable for their actions and don't be afraid to ask the hard questions, like what type of test equipment are you using as if they don't have a differential probe they simply can't view this technology correctly. If they don't have a set up that is even remotely like that of Stanley A Meyer's then how can they expect to get the same results? Don Gable gave us all we needed to know in order to build the exciter array's correctly along with many other items. Sure they cost a lot to build but it comes with the territory if one wishes to pursue this field of study. You should be able to follow someone else's work providing that you also have the proper test equipment and similar cells from which to work and compare notes with. For those of you that get left behind don't take it personal and start adding in what you think will happen from your mind as this technology is very resistant to intuition and thus requires hands on experiments and at any point you find yourselves unable to perform the experiments simply choose to sit this one out as you will be doing everyone a favor by doing so.

In the video what people failed to ask me was is the unit getting hot? Well, the answer to that question is no. I ran the unit all day long and it's temperature never changed so I must be doing something right, agreed? In the video I showed a little above 4kv being applied to the exciter array but that falls short of what Meyer tells us are the working voltages for the exciter array being 10-20kv, correct? Thus you saw no jaw dropping gas production as I didn't reach the threshold for ionization with just 4kv being applied to the plates of the exciter array. I have improved much since then but as a result have run into problems that needed costly solutions to be able to correct those problems.

So, now where does this leave us and where to I stand? I can't answer for all of you but I will keep working on this technology at a pace I can handle. As for showing and sharing my work that remains to be seen as from my being kicked out for standing up for myself against racial attacks while the guilty go unpunished it leaves me terribly vexed.

Until the next time.
Take care,
TGS